Get ready for a surprisingly long post; I`m about to land four dates with a girl in one post.

You can figure this is gonna take long.

So this is how it all started:

I just had an exam in law school for wich I was studying for over a month now. I went to a female friend place and started hitting the books together. The both of us have no interest in each other, wich makes it great because we can get together for study.

Somewhere in between the conversation the topic about one of her friends comes up and she suggests me that I should ask her out. I had her on facebook for like 2 years now but never spoke to the girl.

Now this is very important; I deeply believe this is the point were I fucked up even BEFORE the beginning: I told my friend to ask her friend if she`s into blondies (I`m a blond guy).

This shows the insecurity that surrounds me when I`m around or talking about women I consider beautiful/ interesting/ a potential LTR.

Anyway she goes ahead and ask her that to her friend, and she replys that she doesn`t understand why am I not talking to her via facebook?
Makes perfect sense; is this guy a pussy? Yes girl, yes I am. At least with you.

So that was my clue to ask her out. I started talking on face and she also had some tests; so we were kinda busy but still arranged to have some drinks on the afternoon.

Day 1:


I met her at this coffee stylish place wich is really cool, but early on the evening and no alcohol; we just had some coffee and milkshake. Conversation was good; not great. But I could already tell likes me. This date lasted 2 hours only, we both had to study hard.


Day 2:

I made some against pooha principles move and told her that, since I just had my test and it was such a relief, I wanted to go out to dinner with her. To have fun and delight myself.

I spent a little too much on that evening; that might have spook her. I ordered everything she and I wanted, there was no limit. She drove me home ( I don`t have a fucking car, she has the one her mother owns), and we say goodbye, until the next time.

I want to make a statement: the first 2 dates it was my plan not to make a single move on the girl. I really wanted to have her asking herself wether I liked her or not. I thought it was a cool move, still think it is.
The conversation at dinner went great, it`s all shaping in the form of a relationship the way we interact with each other; and at night we use a lot of wassup to write stupid stuff to each other.

Day 3:

This is where I fucked up. Big time.

As Im writting this my mind is already starting to find some good excuses to make for myself; in order not to get my ego hurted by the heat of my actions. But truth is I`ve done some chicken moves on the girl wich basically costed me all the attraction and seduction I`ve built with the girl.

So now Im going to pay the full price, time for me to be a bit cruel with the person Im always gentle with: myself.

Let`s place us on a saturday night; Im going out with the boys.
She`s going out with her friends, both of us on separate ways; but I have a plan.

Remember how I`ve told you my plan was NOT to kiss her on the first 2 dates? I want to make our third date tonight

So it`s like 23 pm, I`m about to gather with the gang; and I text her I want to see her later tonight. The reason was that I had something I wanted to give to her.

She replys: is it something material?

When I get this text I admit I felt kinda down; there is attraction, we both invest in each other; why would you make such a quesion?

So I answer back: What`s up? You don`t like surprises?
She: It`s not that I don`t like, is that it makes me nervous.
Me: Nevermind then, I can give it to you some other day.
She: No, you are giving it to me tonight.

So far, so good. My plan was to leave the club where I was and go to the club where she was; ask her to come to the door and k close.

At 5 am I was at her nightclub door. She asked me if my boys and I were getting in via text when I was on my way, I told her I was alone and yeah, I could go in.

When I arrive it was impossible to get in because of all the people at the door; she comes out with her bff and gets me inside by grabbing my hand.

I`m in.

I start introducing myself to all of her friends, first time I was so ballsy with a decision in my life. I went to a different nightclub alone to see a girl with all of her friends inside and wanting to kiss close.

I was really proud of myself.

So I ordered a beer, the only one drinking with me was my girl, and all the other friend leave except for her bff.
So I have my beer and tell to her friend: is it ok if I steal this girl from you for 5 minutes? We are going to dance.

Her bff ejects automatically. Girl asks me: what did you said to her?
Me: I asked her if I could steal you for 5 minutes and she went away like that.
This made me uncomfortable. My girl starts texting her to apolagize and she dances with me. I started getting really nerveous. She sees that and says to me we should go outside for a while.

So outside we start talking, I get relaxed and cool, she`s doing some kino; I`m doing some light kino. We started to connect again.
The she wants to go back inside. We start dancing again and I feel anxiety, I ask her some stupid questions like: are you ok?
She looks at me as if I were crazy. Also when I`m talking to her she gently pushes my face away with her hand; Im not liking this not even a little.

It`s 6:15 am now, Im really anxious and not comfortable on the dancefloor. I want to leave the fuck outta there.
So I grab her and tell her: I have to leave now.

The girl transforms now. What I just told her fucked all up, she tells me to go outside for a bit.

So we go, all attraction is lost now, awkward silence is there and the only sound is my voice saing: forget it, Im not going anywhere. This upsets her even more, she tells me to leave. I stand there silent.

Kiss her goodnight on the cheek and leave.

That move destroyed everything I`ve worked for the last 2 weeks with that girl and I knew it; the day after we talked a bit via wassup, I could already tell she was cold on me. Can`t blame her, I was such a pussy.

She asks me what happened to me; I replyed I was anxious around her and couldn`t perform. She says she`s trying to understand me but can`t.

Thing gone colder now, so I understood I lost her and that it all was a big next. Asked her out one more time and she told me she was busy so I did the math.

Once I`ve decided to next her she asks me out 2 days after my original plan. Of course I said yes. She wanted to have lunch at McDonallds after her class.

We had lunch and not even talked about the nightclub failure; we had a good interaction; but she had to leave really early so I walked her to the bus stop and waited with her for the bus to come.

Again I`m not making any move, the bus comes by and she leaves.

Such a pathetic loser.

Things are so cold now I was the only one talking to her via facebook or wassup; girl won`t take the initiative for anything. So now it`s a big NEXT.

I won`t go out with her even if she asks me out, but that wont happen and for a good reason: Ive been such a pussy around her.

Now I dont know if Ive shared enough details so if you want to ask me more on the interactions I will share, but main reason why I titled this topic last chance it`s because I`m tired of reading tons of pua shit and not applying anything.

Ive stated to myself a time limit to stop reading shit and finally applying; because if Im sure of one thing that Id give my life for is that the moves I made on this girl and more importanly the moves I didnt, by now I know better. I wasnt myself, I wasnt genuine, authentic; and Ive had enough of it.

Im putting myself out there, its time to take the heat.

bad move grabbing her. it's an instant turn off for women because your forcing yourself on her and in public the girl will feel embarrassed and try to distance herself from you which is why she told you to go outside. ever heard of first impressions? The first date sets the precedent for the relationship if your going to date a girl don't try to buy her time by spending all your cash, she now see's you as a free meal and a tool, which is why she ejected early after you and her ate at mcdonalds.
sounds like you got inner game issues. If you don't love yourself then no one will except yo momma. a common theme of your post was that you kept making AFC moves. women love a man who is genuine, honest and and has values and believes in a cause. it builds trust in a relationship.

if you keep doing what you've always done you'll keep getting what you've already got

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I want to explain myself a bit more:

I`ve been working on my inner game lately thanks to a very cool program; but not only I am way better than the man I describe above, I`ve also layed girls by being genuine me and not giving a fuck about what others think.

For fucks sake, I even went cold on a girl after fucking her because I couldn`t care less about what she thinks.
And I know this isnt right either, but my point is that I can be a more confident, secure male than I was with this girl.

The main issue is that my mind is always doubting about making moves on her; last night right after writting this here in the forum, she started talking to me on face. Fluff talk, but makes me wonder wether I should ask her out again or not.

What the fuck is wrong with me? Should I ask her or not? Such a pussy; I should just see her and go for the fucking kiss, use her to make the 20 rejection kiss test.

Is there any other feedback you could give me on how to be more like me from date one?

Thanks for reading fellas =)

Friday, 22 March.

I just got out of work, decided tonight it`s a good night to dance. I`m going to the nightclub.

Texted my wing, he`s in.

Friday nights this club has a 2 x 1 beer promotion, so we are getting there early in the night.

At 00:30 we arrived and started talking and drinking.

Around 2 am the place starts to get crowded, still is not full; I want more girls dancing around me.

Now until this point I haven`t opened one single set, and this is wrong because I haven`t buit any momentum on my favour.

My buddy tells a different story; he opened a few sets but got rejected by em all. This guy is cool but a bit negative.

I say this because we both see a fatty dancing with her friends and he tells me: "Tonight I bet even the fatty says no to us."
To wich I reply: bullshit! That`s not going to happen.
He: I`m telling you man, this night`s no good.
Me: You`ll see.

And automatically go in the set to grab the girl`s hand. She rejects my gesture and I ask her: Come on! Won`t you dance with a stranger tonight?
To wich she replys: I`m only dancing with my friends tonight.

When face with such an argument I tend to eject. I say this because some of you might give me good reasons not to, and to stay in set showing more persistance.

That was my first set: blown out.

The next one is basically the same move; she`s dancing with 2 more friends, I approach from the side and grab her hand for a dance.

I get the same reaction, she won`t let me grab her hand and says no with her head.

2 rejections and counting.

After those hits I decided to calm down, enjoy myself dancing with my wing and see what other`s are doing.

Surprisingly for me there is not a single dude asking a girl to dance; first time I pay attention to this and it blew my mind.
I couldn`t believe the balls that night had on that dancefloor. There were only female groups and male groups but no interaction with eachother. If a guy was talking to a girl, it was a friend from the group and you could tell. He was no stranger.

That couldn`t bring me down thou; we move around the dancefloor to the top floor and I grabbed another girl`s hand. One wich I saw earlyier in the night and was exactly at the same place with her same friend.

This is a go! She grabs my hand, I spin her; my wing grabs her friend`s hand and we are both dancing.

This is my usual move; I want to describe it with precission because I think that what I`m doing while dancing is fucked up.

So like I said I grab and spin. That`s how it all starts; right after that I start making eye contact while smiling and singing the song. I want to show I`m having a good time and that`s the vibe I want to transmit to the girl.

Usually I spin a bit more and I start talking to her ear.
So I say to her: I can`t believe no one has taken you for a dance yet. I saw you earlier in the same spot.
She: Well there`s not much people in here.
Me: I know right? This place is empty! Usually when I get inside here place is crowded and you can barely walk. Do you come here often?

She: Sometimes, but you are right, this place gets crowded like hell, tonight must be something going on elsewhere.

The both of us were dancing right under a loudspeaker, so I grab her hand and isolate her a bit away from it to talk.

This was no longer a dance, we were talking. She follows me a few steps away from that spot and we keep talking for a bit.

I grab her hand again and start dancing again, getting closer to our friends. When I see her lifting both our hands and making her friend pass under the bridge our hands made.

My wing had ejected. I ask her: what`s your name. She replys and I ask: and what`s her name? Pointing her friend. She tells me and I see my wing is waiting for me, and that her friend want`s to cockblock me.
So I tell her it was nice to meet her and eject from the set.

It`s 4 am now, we are outside refreshing and talking about what a bitch of a night this is. Girls played hard to get at a whole new level. That alone putted my wing on a very negative state of mind wich kinda got me. It was contagious. But this might be an excuse.

Truth is I scaped that place and when we wanted to go inside once again we`ve been told we had to get in line to go back in.

No more reasons were needed for the both of us to go home.

That was my sad friday night, I`ve approached more on a regular night out with my friends and get more rejections but more success also.

I think 3 approaches are no good to work with, this is a numbers game; therefore I need to play big numbers.

You are creative and imaginative. Unfortunately, the way you apply your creativity and imagination to PU is unproductive. Actually. . . it plain sucks. Here's why:

Life isn't filled with must-do rules but there are some general guidelines. You will probably agree with me that if you tell somebody, "fuck you," he won't like it. There are no must-do rules with pick up either. Snot-nosed idiots who insult themselves and everybody around them still get laid from time to time. . . but there are some general guidelines, and if you follow them, you will increase the chances of a bond with others.

You don't seem to know these guidelines. And instead of researching, thinking, and trying to figure out these simple guidelines, you've used your imagination to dream up your own.
Technically not very slick but this isn't a big deal. Nobody gives a shit about these little things. . .
^This goes against 'general pu guidelines'. You asked her out 2 times and spent a whole lot of money but you think she will question whether you like her or not based on you 'not making a move'?
More imaginations. . .

I could go through your thread sentence by sentence and tell you 'why' your approach to pick up is yielding poor results and suggest improvements but that's really your job. You use all the PU lingo, "Eject", "cockblock", "approach", etc . . . but you haven't studied any of this. If I asked you to write down 5 openers from the top of your head, you couldn't do it. If I asked you to write down what it is that you are trying to accomplish after approaching, I don't think you could do it. Whatever it is that you think you are doing does not resemble 'pick up' in any way because you've simply imagined your own pick up method and scenarios in your head. I remember exchanging some ideas with you in your first journal thread. At that time, you pushed back on some ideas simply because you couldn't admit that you were wrong. The only reason I am here is because you invited me to be honest. So here I am. This is where you need to begin:

1. You know NOTHING about PU and everything you think you know is a joke. Throw all past imaginations of the topic out of your head.
2. Search "Openers" in this forum. With a handful of openers as a reference, figure out the 'guidelines' for openers. What makes them good? What makes them bad? What makes people engage in conversation.
3. Search "routines" and "conversations". Again, with a handful as a reference, figure out the guidelines. What makes them work? What are you trying to accomplish?
4. Search CLOSES. You will not find much support for a kiss close that involves quizzing a girl to death over text or a phone conversation. You will not find much support for a kiss close where you suggest 'gifting her' something then getting disappointed that she's not following along with your kiss close quiz game. You will not find support for such things because it sucks. Look for the closes that work. Figure out why they work.

5. After you search openers, routines, closes. . . and you've figured out the guidelines for success, Only then do you apply your creativity and imagination to personalize and improve pick up methods. Otherwise, you might as well as eat lots of beans and offer farts in response to a girl's conversation.

Before answering kasabi on the various points he stated in this topic I wanted to actually do what he told me to. So far I got the openers part covered; but still I need to understand the conversations and the closes yet.

Still I just found out about something that I think it`s really important to my future self; wanted to leave it on paper before forgetting or letting my feelings to involve in this and think I`m over it.

So my best friend talked via facebook with the girl I`ve been dating with.

You`ll see, my best friend kiss closed her a long time ago on a nightclub and almost layed her, the girl turned him down.

Well here it goes: She started telling him that when the both of us were out I was almost all the time running, dates never lasted more than 2 hours.

Add to that the fact that she seemed "radioactive" in her words, because I`d go nowhere near her (I`m lacking of kino; this was not a surprise either).

Add to that the fact that I went to meet her at the nightclub she was in, told her to close her eyes and went for the kiss and she rejected me, then I decided to leave.

My take on this is that I make zero kino with the girl meeting 2 times and on the third, with no kino at all, I attempt for the kiss close. Not much of a game, is it? But maybe that`s just me.

And that she wanted to leave things in good terms, wich we did talking yesterdat; but reading how she spoke with another guy was eye opening. Not that she was a complete different person; but it made me realize some of my most common mistakes on the dating world.

Kasabi pretty much nailed it with everything he spoke about me and I can see that now; I`m getting a little anxious because I KNOW I have something good to start with in here with all this information but I don`t want to blow it.

You`ll see, I finally accept that I`m an AFC; if I`m really into the girl I play the afc role buying stuff for girls and making èm hate me in the process. I do all the things that are wrong and communicate the opposite of a pua; wich it`s what kasabi calls knowing shit about game.

Next post will be my take on the topics you wanted me to research and study; but I wanted to get this outta my head like I said.

OPENERS

It`s a tool used to open a set in order to get their attention with or without communication of your interest in the girl (Direct openers that communicate interest right off the bat vs. Indirect openers that are under the radar).

Personally I like a lot more the Direct part of game, but it`s not giving me results yet; perhaps I don`t show enough confidence to pull such moves.

An example of a Direct opener it`s the Apocalypse one in wich you look at the girl in the eyes before saying a single word and all you say is: Hi. Wanna get out of here?

The message behind this is that you are being really direct about what you are after and what your intentions are: you are simply looking for sex and stating so. It`s more a statement rather than a question.
The structure seems to be: Introduction + exposing yourself as you really are + going for what you are after = simple sex.

An example of an indirect opener are the well known Opinion openers: Hi girls, I need your opinion about something. This will only take a minute ( False Time Constraint); who do you think lies the most? Women or men?

Boom, you`ve engaged in a conversation and haven`t communicated any real interest in the girls.

The trick behind openers seems to be the communication of authenticity and being clever.

It`s my take on it at least; what a PUA shows on an opener it`s the message that he is somehow different from the other males around. The man is authentic, while opening he is enjoying himself. It`s not preplaned, it`s just who he is, the way he is around women.


Field Report:

Friday 29, March 2013.

I went out with one of my life friends and one that I`ve been going out to sarge with.

The bad news from the start are that the price of the ticket in the club we wanted to go to it`s too damn high; we are going somewhere else.

So we bought a bottle of vodka and after drinking it headed to a bar.

Place is crowded, women are looking at us. Good signs, good vibes; I like this place.

So as we go in and chicks go by I start grabbing girl`s hands and asking `em to stay a while with me. My goal for the night it`s to get 25 kiss rejections (I accepted the challenge), so I need to start warming up.

Of course I`m not getting 25 in that same night, but it`s a start.

So girl by girl, rejection after rejection to stay for a little while with me; I never got to build any comfort with girls at all to go for the kiss. I recognized some provocative faces thou after my invitations, perhaps if I had been a little more persuasive or persistant I might have got one. This is something to try, not to eject the set untill it blows me away with words or simply girls walking out on me.

We go outside, get in the car and drive to another nightclub; we have momentum, it`s time for us to start using it.

Once inside, we sit at a table where two girls are talking to each other; I push my wing to start talking to the girls cause I see he`s getting a bit anxious. The man starts and I follow, my other friend is sitting a little far and not engaging.

Both girls show some signs of interest, started talking about what we do for a living and what we study. A bit kino over the table is going on and we think we have the set, that we could make em go inside to dance with us; but suddenly one girl says: I have to go to the bathroom and the other ejects with her immediately.

Blown. Doesn`t matter, I`m working hard.

2 more chicks sits in their places, this time my wing sits a bit far and my life friend jumps in. We start talking to em, this chicks are even more interested.

I`m showing relaxed body language, and speaking when the time`s right; leaving my wing to take care of the rest. He like`s to talk more and I don`t want to seem nervous by talking over him. One girl touches my shoulder and leaves her hand there for a while, she started the kino after me saying something I can`t recall.

I toke this as a sign of interest, let her hand over my should but never touched her back. I have fear about kino deep down; I`m aware of it now. I`m not comfortable touching or being touched by girls at the beginning and I need to expose myself to that more often.

This is my first attempt to go for the kiss rejection, since I considered her interested in me I asked her to lean in, I had a secret for her.

She does and when her ear is next to my mouth I ask her: do you want to kiss me?

She reacts in a defensive way saying: No way! You are mistaken.
And since my friend and her`s were engaged in their conversation I managed to keep it cool and keep on talking.

One of the girl`s want to go to the bathroom. Same problem again; but this time with my wing we say to the girls that if they want to they can come back to us, we can keep their sits for a bit.

They seem to want to come back and state so, so we waited there for a while. After 10 mins they didn`t, so I told my friend to go to the dancefloor.

Found the girls over there and started dancing one on one with the girl I DIDN`T asked for a kiss.

As we dance I start kinoing her and she seems responsive, I ask her to leave both of our friends alone for a while, perhaps dance somewhere a bit far. She says she want to stay there, next to the bar and I eject.

I want to say I could have k closed her in my mind, if I were a bit more persistant perhaps she would agreed to isolate her. But I wanted to keep it simple at the moment, I don`t know if it was because I was anxious or wanted to get out. The point is that I introduced her to my other friend that was at the bar having a beer. After doing so I ejected.

I see this 3 girls dancing I previously noticed, the 3 of `em still dancing with each other and I go in:

I can`t BELIEVE anyone has asked you 3 for a dance for over half an hour now!
They like what I say, I`m in.

I state: I`m really sorry for my genre, I want to apologise; you 3 are too cute and no one has grabbed you for a dance. Here, let me show you.

So I ask for their names, shake every girl`s hand; and start dancing with the three of `em. I`m having so much fun and balls not even I can believe it. One of the girls is a HB8; the other two are 7`s. I dance with em all at the same time and then eject.

In this situation I don`t really know how to get a k close or anything out of the girls. I`m in a big set dancing and want to get something but don`t know how to get it. If you have any idea please share.

The night pretty much ended after that; we`ve opened another set after that but was a 2 set and my buddyies were in. I simply joined and have some more fun talking and being social.

This was a good night; please share your thoughts on my behaviour.

If you're going to accept your current reality, then just do it. You don't need to overstate things nor do you need to justify or qualify your current reality. The reality is that you lack pick up knowledge and thus are not able to exercise daily habits (mannerisms, speech, behavior, etc. . . ) that can lead to better relations with girls. Acronyms are generally meaningless and none of this has anything to do with whether you like or do not like a girl. Even if you do not like a girl, you still lack knowledge and good habits. . .

So you're taking the right steps. 1. Increase PU knowledge. 2. Integrate PU knowledge into your life. 3. Succeed. . . pretty simple, right?
An opener is just a conversation starter. Good openers tend to lead to good conversations.
Not just in "this situation". You don't know how to get anything from any situation . . . yet. Do some more research. There is a lot of information in this forum. You are still doing whatever the hell you want to do and saying whatever the hell you want to say. If it was this easy, everybody would be a pick up artist. . . if it worked, you wouldn't be here.

There is one very important point you need to understand. . . I tried to explain this to you when you began your other thread long ago but you didn't pay much attention to it. You still treat your life as if you are living in a fast food restaurant. In a fast food restaurant, if you want a burger, you ask, "I want a burger." If you want a coke, you ask, "I want a coke." Things DO NOT work this way in pick up.

This is what you are doing now: You want a girl to stay with you a while so you ask, "Stay with me a while." You want to kiss her so you ask, "Do you want to kiss me?" There are things that you can say and do to make her WANT TO stay with you a while. There are things that you can say and do to make her WANT TO kiss you. This is the point of pick up. Research these things. Currently, your general lack of knowledge and direction makes it difficult to offer any specific advice.

A word or two on routines.

Doing some research I found some of the most common, yet more popular routines created by Style.

I`m talking about The Cube, The 5 lies game.

Right after the opener wich it`s a good conversation starter, you aim to display a routine of your choosing in order to have a conversation with the girl you are interested in or with somebody else on the set if your strategy is to ignore for a bit your target.

What youu want to communicate with this routine is that you feel comfortable talking to other people and being social, it`s something normal to do and the reason why most girls and people in general will have at least the cortesy to listen to you.

I don`t want to get into frames yet because I understand that I`m at a very basic stage, but I can`t help but notice that all these routines stablish a frame for a fact. Some are funny, some are playfull; the pick up artist tends to search for reactions on the girl when displaying his routine. My guess on this is that they look to generate EMOTIONS while speaking; and I also understand that in order to get that you MUST show some emotions yourself.

For example: talking with passion about any subject. Otherwise the conversation gets boring.

What makes a routine good it`s that`s something casual, an ordinary thing we all do as humans; and that keeps a fun conversation, keeping the girl entretained and busy while you are doing kino under the radar.

Basically it aims to build comfort between the persons in the interaction, this can be done by talking and touching in a very light way at first; but scalating towards the goal in the meantime.

This brings me to the Close part.

Closing.

Of all the steps I`ve researched this turned out to be the hardest one for me to understand and I know I might still be getting it wrong.

But my take on it it`s that you start that interaction with a goal in mind always.

This is not to be confused with having a secret agenda, rather being more logical. You are there to have fun with the interaction, and keep scalating the same for as far as other people let you.

With this in mind, puas interact with women looking for a close somehow.

The number close seems to be pretty light, in the same category as the facebook close. It works alright but could and in most cases for what I`ve read turn into flakes.

The kiss close on the other hand seems to be more rewarding. Following the Compliance ladder on Chief`s guide to outer game; you simply search for compliance in the form of kino all the way till the kiss or the fuck close. There is a method used for it, you keep moving forward taking step by step of the ladder until you are in bed with the girl. If she resists at one step you simply go back to the one before that and keep asking for compliance untill the girl`s ready to move to the next step.

The more compliance you get, the more closes you get.

Now all these steps tend to have a dynamic that I might be missing it`s complete concept yet; but I do believe that openers, routines and conversations and closes work together rather than separate parts of an interaction. You can`t have a great close with a poor conversation because you can`t have great comfort with it.

The most confusing part of the game to me it`s that logic with women seems to be different than the everyday logic I use to solve my regular problems. In law school I use a way of thinking that`s getting me nowhere with ladys. Still haven`t figured that one yet, I know they are all communicating from an emotional side but I`m having such a hard time understanding my own.


I decided to stablish some goals for the future.

Short term goals:

In the short term I want to:

1. Kiss close enough girls to stop making a big deal about what it`s not ( kiss closing).
My logical brain understands that`s something that happens often and it`s no big deal, my emotional and scared side don`t. That have to change.

2. Fuck close a new girl that haven`t met before: My last lay report was a girl I was at school with and that was my only connection to the girl; I`d like to experience what it feels like to have sex with a total stranger and being comfortable with it.

3. By doing the previous step; to start LOSING FEAR OF GETTING NAKED WITH GIRLS. I had some bad sexual experiencese with girls in the past who weren`t that supportive at all in bed that I think made me a bit scared about getting naked with girls and laying them.

Long term goals:

Living with two females in my house and being the only male around, I always had such a hard time understanding totally what women want.

Their desires seem so far away from my everyday thinking, that has become a goal to understand and focus on what women want and respect in life.

So:

1. Get to finally understand the logic women uses everyday and what make them different than men.

2. To have more fulfilling relationships with girls and to have for the first time in my life abundance[/i, a concept I never embraced.

3. After knowing what girls like and dislike, and being able to fill every single desire girls have, both in bed and in life; I seek for a long term relationship.

What I`m basically looking for as a goal is to become a real man once and for all, to be the one that understands what`s behind tricky words and messy signs women often tend to give.

14/4/2013

It`s a boring sunday like any other in my regular life, so this friend of mine that I haven`t seen for a while asks me to go to an anime convention around town. Yesterday he saw some babes there and it`s free, we don`t have anything better to do.

Well, we get inside, say hi to some people we know from our pasts; and then sit at the stairs at the entrance of the building. Tons of people gathering there.

Now here come`s the interesting part; after like half an hour taking with my friends about traveling, women, passions and careers; he notices a poor man asking to marry him to a girl that`s sitting next to us.

This girl was with a another girl, my buddy tells to this girl that has this ashamed face for what her sister was getting into: "Your friend was kinda asking for it."

And boom! He`s in.

They both laugh, are having a good time and the hobo leaves, my friend starts a convo.

He tells a story about last years convention, and that he saw this fat guy disguised as a character from a family game that was all sweaty and I deliver a comment on it: "You can`t think of anything else about that convention than that fat guy can you? Half an hour ago he was telling me the same story."

This is my classic modus operandi when entering a set with my usual wings; but this wasn`t my usual wings wich is epic and eye opening.

So we talk a bit more, all fluff talk, and I`m getting hungry. I tell Silvio, my buddy, that we should be going to McDonalld`s. He says yes but wants to stay a bit more.

He invites both of the girls (who ended up being sisters), to join us but they refuse. So before leaving I ask the girl that was invited to get married her name, she says it and then I ask her sisters. After saying my name I say it was a pleasure and leave.


Now here comes the good part: When we ejected my friend asks me: Why did you do that? We had `em, we could have gotten a facebook or something.
And I tell the man he is right; I ejected early. He says two things: 1. to never bring down your buddy`s comments; if he`s telling a story all you should do is make whatever you can to make your friend look even better. Bring his value up.
I`m stopping at this because I`m so accustomed to critics from my wings and to be critic about their storys; basically I`m used to bring other`s value down to get my own up. THIS IS FUCKED UP.

2. If the girls stay in set it`s because they want to, if they want to leave they will come up with an excuse. You are not supposed to be the one leaving unless you really have to go. Assume that if they stay in set it`s because there is some interest.

So I have a few new specific goals from this sunday:

1. it`s been a while since I went out with this friend, he`s a really good influence on me and a really good friend. Instead of going out with my regulars that was kinda poisoning me for all the critics of one another; I`m going to go out more with Silvio.

He`s the kind of wing I want in my team.

2. Instead of worrying to death about whether or not there is any ammount of attraction from the girls in set, it`s better to ASUME attraction for the mere fact that they are still there; still with us and interested.
That`s all you need to know in order to make a close, the girl stays with you.

3. I`ve been going out once a week to danceclubs thinking that it was an alright rythm, I think I need to go out more. Twice a week it`s a nice number, could be better but I have to learn to sarge in other occasions than just going out to clubs. Like when I`m at lawschool and such.

This leads to start being more social on my regular habitat like work, school and even when I take the dog to the park. My social circle MUST EXPAND.

One more important thing:

I am AFFRAID of staying at sets; at social interactions.

The social pressure is too much for me to take, it`s another form of anxiety. Not to the approach itself but to staying in the situation and traying to keep it cool always. That pressure is killing me.

I should NOT ESCAPE.

A routine should have purpose. Think of the routine as a funnel that leads to a girl's pussy. Conversations/first time meetings can begin millions of different ways. . . but the end result of a meeting, whether it takes one hour or 1 year (for the purpose of pick up) ends with your dick inside her pussy. This means that every routine must bring you closer to a sexual encounter. You will eventually figure out how emotional connections tend to weave in and out but for now, do nothing which does not bring you closer to her pussy.

How does the cube achieve ^this? If you do not know, don't bother. How does talking about your life, professional aspirations, etc . . .achieve ^this? If you do not know, don't bother. How does raising your 'value' achieve ^this? Do you know what 'value' means? If not, don't bother. Keep it as simple as you understand it. You are a man. She is a woman. Men and women like to go out and spend time together. Start asking girls out on dates. Get their numbers. Go out on dates. Have sex. Figure out a few ways you can achieve these things and just do it, over, over, and over again.

It`s wednesday, 10 am in the morning and I`m at the bus stop.

Just got off of a law class heading home, when I notice this girl I shared a class with last year, really hot and she recognizes me.

I say hello to her as she arrives to the bus stop and kiss her cheek; a bus stops and she asks me if she can take it. I ask her where she`s headed and it`s to a place really near my flat, so I say yes.

We both get in and start talking, she`s a year ahead of me on the law career, about to become a lawyer; and we talk about last year, the importance of some classes and the lack of it of others; and the biggest part of all is that while she speaks I start noticing she`s playing with her hair.

I send a funny vibe and she`s into it, deep eye contact, laughs, and it hit me.

Seduction it`s as hard as you want it to be, this girl was showing some interest in me and I subconciously started noticing; the last few weeks I became more aware about myself and others.

When I get home I say goodbye to her and that it was good to know she was doing well; even thou I didn`t asked for a facebook, nor a phone number nor anything I knew I`ve done some pick up basic stuff that really worked.

So when I first read kasabi`s last peace of advice I thought there might be a contradiction between his first advice (the one to get to study and learn about pick up properly) and this last one that recommends me to just keep it simple.

Now my thoughts are different, I should start simple and do exactly what he`s advicing: get out on dates and get laid on dates. Perhaps pick up is that simple, perhaps all these years all I had was mental masturbation.

Then again: I`m arriving at this conclussion by a simple fluff talk with a girl on a bus, nor that I had kiss closed her or lay her. But one step at a time Bond, one step at a time.

"Study" does not equal "Knowledge". . . and you don't have to know EVERY SINGLE pick up method out there to figure out how to gain dates. Get comfortable with a few openers. Figure out a few different ways to gain numbers. Ask girls out. Go on dates. If you've been aware of "pick up" for several years and you are still stuck here, this has been one giant bottleneck. You are holding yourself back but I am not entirely sure why. You are not limited by intelligence and if there is any truth to your last post about the girl in the bus, I can't imagine your physical appearance or social abilities has anything to do with it.

Numbers, dates . . . do it.