A little background on me: I'm 21 and do exclusively day game. You just see better women and, quite honestly, I'm not a club or bar kinda guy. I've also been doing nofap since the 5th. I can speak to some of the effects. Maybe not as much because I've started taking Wellbutrin for ADHD and it seems to dull my personality a bit, and also have some adderall withdrawal, but nofap really does work.

I don't need Wellbutrin or any medication except for school and I'm working the next semester (co-op) so maybe I'll go off it for the time being. Then again, I've only been on it for 3 days so maybe my personality will return to normal once it builds up in my system. But my greatest asset in game is my quick wit and sense of humor. Right now, both of those are severely impacted. If anyone has taken Wellbutrin, feel free to chime in. All I know is that I'm much more confident, wittier, and overall more fun off of it.

This thread is intended to provide newbies with field data as I know it's the most coveted thing as someone just coming on.

Decided to go to the mall tonight because I was horny as f. Got there around 7 and stayed only an hour because the mall was emptying out.

Making notes as I go, so this is all raw from the set.

Day 1

Hb 8 and hb 7. Both looked like they were in high school. I was nervous as I hadn't approached anyone in a month. I just made a joke about them taking selfies which the 8 took well. Not the 7. Then I awkwardly said "I approached you because you were cute." And it got awkward from there. I ejected and saw them later. They waved and we talked for a bit. They told me I should bring them food.

Hb 8 and hb 7.5 which turned into a 5 set. I walked into a women's clothing store and realized these chicks were pretty young as well. They seemed confused why I was there but once I said I was looking "for something for my girlfriend" they thought it was the sweetest thing and warmed up. Felt more confident after this set. I ejected when they started to talk mostly amongst themselves.

Next set was a Hb 8 and hb 5. I recognized the girl went to the same high school and ran track. Super young again. We had a good conversation but again, she's like 5 years younger than me.

Hb 7.5 and hb 6 were next. Saw them sit down with ice cream and went direct opener. Not a good delivery as I was momentarily stunned by the cuter one's eye contact. Very slow and hesitant. Chatted for a bit and it didn't seem like it was going anywhere so I left. First set I that was actually around my age.

Opened one girl of a group of 4 by first greeting the group and complimenting hb 7.5, super young again. Didn't go anywhere but I didn't push because they're babies. Got them to laugh though. One of the girls seemed cool though, like the rocker/goth type. She asked me if I was a drug dealer and I turned it around into laughs.

Next set is a hb 8 and hb 7.5. Asked them for their opinion on a couple shirts. Seemed to forget about me after a while. Second set that was "of age."

Reopened the group of 4 from earlier instead of awkwardly walking past. The rocker/goth girl asked me how old I am. I said 21 and she seemed flabbergasted. She asked me to buy her cigarettes. At first I said no, but then I said I would buy her cigarettes if the girl I opened before went on a date with me (I was mainly looking to use that as a direct transition, not serious). They found that amusing but then said they were 16.

Last set of the day was a 7.5 and a 5. Caught them as they were walking away and it didn't go anywhere. Followed the 3 second rule for this though.

Issues/Questions:
-I seem to have a problem going indirect-direct. I just can't seem to transition smoothly without it sounding forced. Any ideas on how to do this?
-Need to follow the 3 second rule more. Missed about 6 sets by hesitating (yes I counted).
-When exactly is a better time to meet women 18+ at the mall?
-Need to get off of Wellbutrin if it keeps affecting my game. Tuesday when I took nothing, I felt much better. Went 1/1 with an approach, number close, and day 2. Could have kept going but literally nobody was on campus.

Reflection/Conclusion
-I was aiming for 10 sets before I left but 8 in an hour is pretty impressive.
-Nofap seems to be helping, even if just a little. Totally had the "creep factor" when I was fapping every day
-Figure out medication situation

Overall I plan on continuing to approach while giving my medication another 2-3 weeks. Hopefully by then I'll have an idea if it can help me and I can go off of it until the summer.

I am in the same boat as you brotha same age and same place in game. I cant seem to get anywhere after opening I don't know how to DHV without sounding like a douche or im bragging any help would be much appreciated!

Well done for getting out there man.
It got awkward because blatantly transitioning from indirect to direct IS awkward.
Then don't transition from indirect to direct. You can mention "you're cute" as part of the convo but you don't have to call yourself out with (paraphrasing) "Just kidding, forget everything I just said, I am only talking to you because you're a hot woman." Keep the convo on whatever you opened it about, then exchange some details about eachother, then get her #.

Also try approaching 1-sets so you get her undivided attention.

Like oceanx said, don't transition from indirect to direct. You should focus on one or the other. I recommend doing indirect when you're first starting out and then transition after the opener by saying, "You know, you're really friendly! Where are you from?" That way you've moved out of the friendly "just passing through" opener and are now in a conversation.

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Thanks yeah I tend to do mainly indirect but after reading game, I guess I'm trying to force direct.

For next time (tomorrow), I'm gonna try 2 more things:
-Will try direct openers again but slightly tweaked: "I saw you from over there and I just had to meet you because I like your style."
-Indirect with flirting and teasing intermixed

We'll see what works better.

Day 2

First set of the day was a HB 8 literally as soon as I walked in the door. I opened her and made solid eye contact. Walked past her, looked back, locked eyes, and walked up to her. I opened her by telling her she looked like Emma Roberts (she did). Solid eye contact throughout, and she was smiling, holding that eye contact and getting a little red. Ejected when I ran out of things to talk about. In hindsight, I should ha e said something like "And she's cute, so you're cute as well" after opening but oh well.

2nd set was with a hb 7 and hb 8. Direct opener and they seemed surprised. They're high school freshmen. I ejected quickly. They looked older.

Next set was a hb 8.5 in Victoria's Secret. Blanked on the opener and then just went direct by telling her I thought she was cute and wanted to talk to her. Nervous as hell because of the setting. Both of us made solid eye contact but I blanked on what to say next so I ejected.

Next HB 7 cashier. She was wearing a hoodie of a school my friend went to. She didn't go there. I got embarrassed and left when I saw her male coworker was smirking.

Direct opened two girls who looked like they were 13 just to see what would happen. They got flabbergasted or creeped out and walked away.

Hb 7.5 and hb 8.5 asked them for help on trying a cologne. Super nervous. They live 2 hours away.

Hb 8.5 and Hb 8 opened with a comment about Starbucks. They kept walking.

Overall, I was off my game and nervous as I was waiting to hear back from one girl from Day 1 about a potential date. I also fapped last night so that might have something to do with it too. In fact, I think it was most of it. Creep factor was back in full. Not gonna fap but was majorly feeling blue balls yesterday after cuddling with a girl for a while.

Issues/Questions
-If she holds direct eye contact with you to where it almost becomes a staring contest, is that an IOI?
-Need to work in mid-game. Opening and closing are easy for me but the middle is troublesome.

Woah, woah, wait. What's the story with the girl you cuddled with? You had to run some sort of game on her, right?

Anyway, daygame can be intimidating sometimes and easy at others. I know what you mean about nofap. Didn't fap for a week and everything was going great, then I was just to horny. I'm just going to remind myself that fapping to 2D girls is pointless. I don't have the symptoms of an addict and I read a article by a very good source about how fapping doesn't make a difference (the correlation to a high amount of fapping is actually libido) but I still plan on cutting it out because the fact of the matter is that not fapping DOES effect PUA in a negative way. Good luck mate, I look foward to reading your next post.

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I've actually masturbated three days in a row after not for 21 days, and it made me realize that one screwup or three in my case won't put you back to square one. I still feel many of the positive effects, including the confidence. But back on the nofap train today because I'm starting to feel like the effects are lessening.

Well it's kind of complicated with the girl. We dated for a while, but then she developed feelings for her best friend who she's known for years. I'm not really mad because she's trying to set me up with one of her friends and said repeatedly how awful she feels so she didn't do this lightly. BELIEVE ME, I tried to escalate when we were cuddling but she wasn't going for it.

Yesterday I decided to do something a little different and go to a local college. I approached one girl and one girl only, but we hit it off, and I took her on an instant date and kissed her. Went on another date with her today, and she's pretty cool but I just don't know what we really have in common. I'm going to give it another date.

Today I also approached several girls at school, including number closing my first set of the day. Overall, I approached five girls and number closed two. The number closes were a seven and a nine. I could have probably number closed an 8.5 but I was worried that the nine I just number closed would come out of the computer lab and see me (the 8.5 was sitting right by the lab). So the interaction was kind of short and I didn't really escalate and develop rapport. The only real blowout I had of the day was a girl I sat down with in the library and opened. She really was not going for anything and said to me that her crush was sitting the next table over and she was going to go say hi. Seems like this was indeed the case and I ejected. She didn't seem very nice so I don't feel anything negative.

There's four things that I'm noticing are the things that really have changed my interactions:
1. Talking with confidence
2. Being direct and forward with your intentions
3. Direct eye contact
4. Dress well

since I've started doing these four things, interactions have been much much better.

Yeah, the key is to stop fapping but at the same time not feel guilty when you relapse. I honestly think that porn is addictive and that no fap has many positive effects, but there is not enough evidence to back it up scientifically (I'm a science person).

Anyway, 21 days, damn. No wonder why you were/are so motivated. I was at 12 at the beggining of the school year and was doing well. I started fapping and lost all of my motivation. I'm gaining it back now.

So, you K-closed a girl on an instadate? Nice. How long have you been doing this for? My objective for K-closing during daygame hasn't been reached yet. I have had 7 N-closes and 4 dates. Of the two girls I almost F-closed one had daddy issues and one girl was sexually abused (They were both Brazilian, what does that say, lol).

Anyway, that was 4-5 months ago, and I've got to be honest, I haven't gotten close since.

Good job on the N-closes. Where do you normally sarge? I switched from daygame to nightgame but am now switching back because I don't drink which comes off as wrong at parties.

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As cold or distant as it may sound, the world is a template. As you're discovering when you are seeing that the girls are more intrigued when you possess the factors you mentioned. You're on the right road bro.

What I mean by the template thing: THE SAME GIRL who may be into it on a particular day may not have been into it at all if I the very same guy was for instance hungover, had fapped the day before etc.

Thanks First kiss during daygame ever actually. But pickup has helped me to be more open and direct.

I normally do indirect game at my college and have since I started college. But things didn't click until I started watching the simple pickup videos and being more direct, holding better eye contact, and being more confident.