So I'm new to this, and for the past two Saturdays I've gone out alone to dance clubs to sort of practice.


August 18th
I didn't get into the club until about 12:30. I was talking with a French guy while I waited in line, and as soon as we got in there he was on a girl. It impressed the shit out of me. I kept trying to break into dance circles, but that didn't really work. At one point I walked into the lounge area and there were several smoking hot girls in mini skirts... and I walked out. I did dance with an awkward fat girl though

Feeling like an AFC, I left pretty early and went to a bar. I stayed for about two seconds before I left. But on the way home there was a massively drunk girl and her friend. She was screaming "I love life!" and I turned around and asked where the party was. It was apparently at a guy named Matt's house. So we went there. I was able to make friends, like I usually can in these settings, and I ran a palm reading routine. She got up at one point and went to bed, not to sleep though. I didn't follow. It felt like a shit test - to see if I would chase. As she came back, she gave me a strange look. It kind of looked like the doggy dish bowl look... but it also looked like "holy shit I don't fucking know this guy." Then she threw up in the toilet and Matt did her laundry. They walked home... and I wasn't chasing after that. She looked fine and everything, but everything about that seemed wrong. Fun... but wrong.

TL;DR: Did horrible, went home with drunk chick. Did palm reading. She threw up.

August 25th
Dancing didn't seem to do much. I did dance with a really cute Asian girl, but as soon as I touched her arm her friend took her away. I also danced with a 40ish girl and a fat girl... the fat girl really liked it - grinding on me and shit. Not sure if this is a good thing, but it was really early and I was trying to get into state.

So I went into the lounge area. There was a four set with one guy - total AMOG. I tried to talk to one of them, and some other girl told me that that girl had a boyfriend - particularly the AMOG. So I told them that I was gay. The AMOG didn't buy it. He cozyed up to me and asked me if I was. I'm sort of realizing that the whole "I'm gay" thing probably works better in sets with only girls. At one point I went in for the kiss on him just to fuck around and he didn't pull away... well he did a little bit so maybe it looked fine So yeah... Anyway... after that some really cute girl spoke to me. The kissing guys thing must have given me some social proof. So I talked with her for a bit and I ran the palm reading thing. She was part of a bachelor party, and ALL of the girls were throwing their palms at me. I couldn't leverage that though. The older one said that all of them had boyfriends, and the cute one had left.

After that I left. I went to the next club and stayed for only about 10 minutes. I talked to two more girls, both married. I told them the secret to a long relationship: Sex. I also asked them about my new hair. It was the first negative comment I got on it. I danced for about a second... there were two bacheloret parties dancing and that was about it. One group had, "Buy us shots" on all of their tee-shirts... kind of a stupid move because it was written in cursive and right across their boobs. I actually stopped one of them to ask what it said... then I sort of blew them off because fuck dat. On the way out I saw a three set with two HB9s... and I walked past. My night was over.

TL;DR: Danced with cute Asian, but friend cock blocked. Danced with 40 yr old and fat chick - fat chicks dig me. Almost kissed a guy to fuck with a group. Bacheloret parties loved the palm reading, but nothing came of it.

Thoughts?

Do you not see what you're doing wrong?

You go to clubs alone, dancing with girls then reading their palms haha. Still could work in some exceptions but imagine you are dancing and having the time of your life then some person wants to talk to you about palms.

Now, if you read their palm's 1st then said," ok I'm bored lets dance" it is a bit more smoother way of doing things, then what is your goal? Don't say phone number, you should be escalating, that's what dancing is all about, physical and non verbal escalation.

My thoughts are:
• go out with friends and have a laugh *priority* (it will rub off on the girls and make your interactions smoother)
• if you dance with girls,l.... dance>escalate>attract>isolate>palm read if that's your thing>arousal>try to take home>phone number is last option>rinse and repeat.
• try to kiss girls instead of guys. Saying "im gay" is only gonna blow yourself out.

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I didn't take any girls from the dance floor to read their palm.

I see what you're saying with the "I'm bored. Let's dance," thing. I think that was pretty much my question. I got these girls to swarm around me, then I must have let them get bored because they told me that they were all married/in a relationship. If I had pulled them to the dance floor it would have been a smoother escalation. And who cares if they did have boyfriends/husbands. I could use the social proof on the dance floor/lounge. Thanks! I really didn't see what I was doing wrong. It's funny. I read other people's stuff and it all seems so obvious. Then I write my own and I just know something is wrong, but I can't fix it.

The only reason I don't go out with friends is because they wont go. I need to make some friends who are into this kind of thing. The one friend who has ever been into this kind of thing just got a girlfriend, and he's suddenly apathetic to the idea.

I know it's not easy to have friends that are up for this type of thing.

Try your local PUA lair, you might have to go through a few weirdos till you find someone who is on the same page and then you're all set then.

Solo can be good, but in moderation in my opinion.

P.s. drawing crowds can be a bad thing, other wise known as 'dancing monkey syndrome', it's so hard to do seduction when the girl you read her palm keeps on saying "omg please do it to my friend" and then you do it with them, and then they say the same thing and so and before you know it you are their bitch, seduction is gonna be hard from this point. It's like negative social proof.

I prefer being high energy, then suck them into my escalation trap and reduce the energy into low and slow seduction type of energy. Works good for me.

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Good advice. I probably wouldn't have figured that out on my own.