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1. I had no intention of gaming
2. My betaness might disgust you.


So me and a 3 friends met 4 girls.
It was our first time meeting each other, so we thought that we'd go to a restaurant and get to know each other through drinking-games (it's Korean culture.)

But two of the girls forgot their IDs, so I suggested that we all go to a cocktail bar(not Korean culture.) that I know of where they don't check for IDs, and we did.
At the time, it seemed like a great idea because I knew the place pretty well

Shit-test 1:
I was recommending cocktails that my female friends liked, and they all ended up choosing the same thing.
I jokingly asked what would happen if they all didn't like their choice, and one girl jokingly said that I should be the one paying for the drinks. I just grinned. <=What should I have done in this situation?

Anyway, yeah, it turned out bad; the music was too damn loud to get any decent conversation going, and I came up with an excuse to be the one to pay for the girls' drinks. I realize that it was a bad idea as it was compensation, and the excuse was just a cover-up.

At that point, the same girl who shit-tested me before looked me straight in the eye and told me that I was charming.
Once again, I just grinned <=was this okay?
and we all got up and left to another place.

The second place we went to was a restaurant, and it was better than before.
We got friendly the Korean way (through drinking-games,) received tons of drunk-IOIs and all went separate ways. However, I didn't exchange numbers since I never intended to pick-up anybody in the first place.


Now as I was writing this, I realize that I should've taken this opportunity to increase my gaming skills and know how I've could've reacted better.

But I'd like to hear it from you guys

You seem to understand something. You don't need to respond verbally to everything a girl says. That's good. The first grin was completely fine. That you came up with an excuse to buy their drinks is quite weak, but I don't think they noticed. And yeah, you should have definitely tried to move things further when you get so direct IOIs. Because what do you expect from her? To shout:"Come, fuck me"? Not gonna happen...

I discourage you however from number closing girls. It's a waste of time. Only get numbers if you have something to make sure it's worth it. (Like, you made out... at least...)

You still need a lot of calibration to do. We shouldn't be the ones to tell you what to say when a girl tells you you're charming. That second grin might not be the strongest. Learn to accept a compliment. It's a great opportunity to keep the frame sexual. Just an example :"Well, thank you I was only expecting you to say this tomorrow morning when I brought you breakfast" See? It's playful, and already sets the frame that you two are going to fuck.

I can not stress enough how important it is that your frame should be sexual all the time. This way texting becomes a powerful weapon in your arsenal as you no longer need to chit-chat, you can just send her all kind of playful but dirty things that make her panties dripping and she won't be freaked out because you were like this from the very beginning.

Good Luck!

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Thanks for the post.
Would something like "at least buy me a drink before you hit on me" have been inappropriate, since I would be punishing good behavior when she told me that I was charming?

By the way, I'm only in this (at the moment, probably) to learn how to maintain a steady LTR.
Thus, making out on the first day is not really an option, nor is it considered appropriate in our culture.
What do you think of it?
Should I still always maintain a sexual frame from the start, or should I build it gradually?

I think it's inappropriate in every culture to finger girls on the dancefloor LMAO. Still it happens from time to time. Also if you're a newbie you shouldn't yet go for LTRs. I'll explain...

To maintain a happy relationship you need to have the following qualities:

1) Good screening abilities(to select a girl that is a good match for you)

2) Attractive lifestyle(or your girl will get bored)

3) A good understanding of women(to avoid unnecessary drama)

4) Strong frame and boundaries(and a very good inner game) (To minimalize the chances of cheating)

Also, if you're jumping into an LTR right away at the start of the journey you will keep yourself away from improving for months(as I suspect you'd be a loyal boyfriend)

I strongly recommend you to work on your game before going into an LTR.

Also, back to the inappropriate thing. Don't tell me you've never seen anyone making out in a club. That's just nonsense. But it made me think, what is your culture? If I'm not being rude...

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I've thought about it and I agree.
The last relationship I was in didn't end up pretty nicely. The girl had me by the balls, got bored and left.

Yes, I've seen people who look like they've met that night making out in clubs, and guys visiting nearby convenience stores to buy condoms
But that's just not my thing; I'd prefer a nice girl who would stay away from such.

There's that wild culture, and the one with women that I am interested in is a quiet and shy one.
In it, most women my age never really had any direct sexual encounters with men and are still naive and young?

They believe that you only kiss a guy if you're in a deep, intimate relationship with him and having sex is something that they have never really thought of at that age. Thus, most aren't more than a HB7.


Once, I had another one of those meetings. As I was in a gaming mood that night, I had my best attire and game face on.

Let me give a brief introduction;
People tell me that my first impression made them think that I was a very calm and scary character. When I have my game face on, I look very charismatic you'd think that I was a very confident and elite character.
But in reality, I'm not.
I am geeky and nerdish.
I make many mistakes, panic easily and make even more when I do panic.

Anyways, that night, I played on canned material.
I received a lot of IOIs from a girl, kino-escalated and left with my hands on her shoulders and her arms around my waist.

But I have trouble keeping that up.
Throughout our small relationship, she realized that I was far from the person she thought I was when we met that night.

I wasn't really planning on any LTR with her, as she fit more into the wild clubbing scene, which I have no interest in.

I liked who I was then, but I realize that I am not that person, as much as I would like to be. It would require an entire personality change, and I would no longer be the person that people knew.

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I've been reading through a lot of this material and watched a lot of videos.
I've always developed an interest in NLP, which I am looking forward to studying even further.

I'd love it if I could always be the person that I was that night, and I see now that it would be very hard and would require that I meet people out of the shy culture.

I guess that I always knew this, but never really acknowledged and always have denied it.

You've read and brought out some things that I've always held within me, and it's made things a lot more clearer now.

Thanks a lot, I almost mistook you for a therapist or a psychologist.

NLP is powerful. You have to have a really strong inner game for it however to be able to apply it properly.

Commands and suggestions work best if your target trusts you and already feels a connection.

Some may call you out on your view of women. The community likes seeing women like they're all sluts. If a girl says she wants to wait until marriage they just laugh at it and assume she just haven't met a guy who's alpha enough to bang her. And to be fair ^this is true in a fascinatingly, but scaringly high part of the cases. We shouldn't ignore exceptions however.... But let me tell you a thing. Women want sex. That's just a fact, it's simple biology. Even if they decide to wait with it they want it nontheless. That they haven't even thought about it is nonsense.

What you were trying to do was "faking it till you make it". It doesn't work with relationships for the exact reason what happened. The girl realises that you're not the cool guy she met and fell for. It's a great way for improving, but if you want a girl to like you for who you are, then you need to show her who you are, and not something else.

That's why I am advocating improving first, then going for relationships.

Don't be afriad of changing yourself into a better person. Think about it like this:

If you improve yourself, not only will it be easier for you to find and get a girl you might like, you will be much better at keeping her happy in your relationship too.

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"Bros before hoes"

Relationship guide: extended-relationship-guide-vt170687.html

http://wayoftheplayer.com/become-a-player/instinct

Thanks a lot, you've been a great help.
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