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 Post subject: Deluxe Journal
PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:27 am 
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Decided to do a journal because I am going to begin going out constantly and will post from every field experience. About me real quick, I have never got a number from a girl outside of work or really much anything else outside of work. I'm tired of not having choices and want to feel in control of the girls that I want in my life. I just started doing all of this back in December and I have constantly been making progress in getting less and less AA and being able to keep a conversation with a group of stranger. To be honest I grew up an introvert and I am trying to change that day by day.

So tonight, went to a loud dance club for a girlfriends birthday. I only ran game on two sets but the first set was just a HB7.

She is a friend of the bday girl. I opened with jealous girlfriend and move to CvU's and I ran quite a few other things but this girl wasn't giving me much. We probably had a 20 minute conversation until I said lets go get some fresh air and she said she had BF. Whatever, I don't care she wasn't very interesting anyways. We talked for a few more minutes and I moved on.

Second set was two girls (two HB8) upstairs on balcony of the club where there isn't any music. Perfect! I can talk without have to scream the whole time.

Me: I need a quick opinion, would you date someone who is friends with his ex?
HB8a: We're lesbians
Me: Wow, don't flatter yourself, I am not hitting on you
HB8a: Wow that is rude, next time you go talk to some girls why don't you be a little more nice
Me: You need to calm down I was just having fun.

She kept trying to tell me how to be nice and I stood my ground saying I am having fun. Shit test passed because after that they were way interested in me. Telling me how they were really interested in our conversation and they are not actually lesbians. Transition to best friend test and then cube doing the cube on both of them at once. They were really intrigued by the cube and wanted me to go over it again so they could use it on their friends. Talk about psychology and go into a little color theory. Then next thing I know everyone is getting kicked out cuz it is 1:40...LAME! So we go back inside and they say they are going to the bathroom.

This is the area I am trying to figure out what I should of done correctly. So as we are going back inside I tell the dominant one that we should hang out and she ask for my phone number. At first I thought I was golden and then I find out she only wants my number and doesn't want to give out her number. She said she would hit me up next time they are out. I pull out my phone and try to hand it to her but she begins to argue with me that we are not exchanging numbers and I told her that, that is the only way we are doing this. 10 seconds of arguing she said I am only taking your number and I said ok kool and she walked into the bathroom and I said have a good night.

My thoughts on the second set from analyzing it:
#1 - I believe I should have ran some kind of state based routine (ie 12 wives or angel and devil)
#2 - Do some kind of qualifying. Something like so beauty is common so what makes you guys different?
#3 - I believe I am right in not just giving her my number to her even tho I lost any type of contact with her.
#4 - What do you guys think if I go for a bounce? I believe this may have been the best option now that I think about it. I have never executed a bounce but I know I will have to start.

I really do wanna get lethal at this. I have the confidence and the cocky/funny I just need to be able to control the conversation. Anyways thoughts?


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 Post subject: Re: Deluxe Journal
PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 9:14 am 
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Ok went out again solo this week after last week I went out and completely froze up. Tonight my goal was to get a number and approach at least three sets.

First bar I froze up again. Second bar there was no talent. Last week I would of when home again but this time I was determined to do this and man up! Went to this third bar and on the drive all I told myself was to open any set no matter what!

Went in the third bar and walked up on a two set, finally ran opener! Whew! Let the game begin. First set went nowhere. Kool moving on. I still have to find a way to get that first set out of the way and not get the feeling I am bothering people. More experience the easier this will come.

Ok so first good set. Got my drink and ran across this two set of blondes, not my type but I need the practice. HB7 and HB6. Ran jealous girlfriend opener. Ran best friend test, told crack girl story, then oddly enough the HB6 turned away and started talking to her other friends. HB7 and I start talking, she shows IOIs, plays with hair, bantering back, touches my chest. (I've been working out the last 9 weeks and have gained a solid 4 pounds) Did the cube and told her about herself and she mention how she went to school for psychology. I have her attracted to me now but I still feel weird about going to the next step of comfort because in the moment I feel weird about asking her what makes her special. Know that I write that, I think it's the fear of being rejected. I know petty but just saying. I am focused on getting through it next time. Basically what happens is her male friend comes over, I don't know what to do at the moment and as I am about to walk away she sticks her hand out and says nice to meet you, we exchange names and I say we should hang out. I ask what is the best way to contact her and she looks up to her friend and he says maybe I shouldn't. I walk away.

Gist: I should of just chatted up with the guy and shown I wasn't just after her and went to qualification.

Second set was two HB6s. Talked to them a bit and told them some stories and practiced on just keeping the conversation going. I wasn't physically attracted to either one of them so just shot the shit with them.

Third set three hbs and a dude. I opened and the was meant to talk to two girls but the guy hooked on to me and so I started talking to him and the girls kind of left.

I opened other sets but they didn't go anywhere.

So I was happy that I opened over five sets. Disappointed that I was not able to #close. I have a week to analyze and improve until I can go out again.


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 Post subject: Re: Deluxe Journal
PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:09 pm 
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Hey there, read your first post so far and really liked it, keep up the good work!

As to the exchanging phone number thing, here is a cool trick to get her nr. if she doesnt want to give you hers: "when entering your digits in her phone, just give yourself a missed call so you will have her number and can then save it =)."
Its field tested and she wont believe what just happened, if you save it in front of her as well =) (could also make follow up plans while your at it, if you transition it right (i.e. you seem like a cool person, we should hang out sometime ...?).

Also, I agree with you that you could have bounced the second set. If your gut tells you that it is the right thing to do, go for it, dont hesitate. Think about it, you have nothing to lose and probably wont ever see her again, if you didnt make plans to meet up again (or have contact on fb, phone, etc.). Its good exercise to prepare you for future sets to come, so you know what works and how to progress things!

Always push further to see what happens, cause thats how you get better and most of the time you'd be surprised at how things can turn out the right way, if you get out of your comfort zone =).

Hope this helps!


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 Post subject: Re: Deluxe Journal
PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:17 am 
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Hey thank you jockingly for replying and giving me your insight. Like you said I need to keep pushing the envelope and get outside of my comfort zone. I found out that I think things are so black and white in the sense of there is only a right and wrong way to do things. The logical side of me takes over, I have to relax and understand there are gray areas and you can get away with things. People get laid off of much dumber things than whatever I say.

Anyways back to tonight. Another solo sarge. I don't know what was the matter with me tonight, everything was kinda off for me. I am expecting to move out of the Seattle area and going to the Phoenix area in the next few months but don't know why that matters to me. Experience is experience and I will need it no matter where I am at.

1st set - three set of girls, best might of been a HB7, ran Jealous gf opener and then didn't know where to go from there. I need to have a plan for more than two sets. I think I am going to transition to Cs V Us and go from there and tell a random story. But then again this is where I think there is only one right way to do things lol prolly just saying about anything else is good lol

Lesson - Have a plan for larger sets

2nd set - Two girls I was not interested in and just used them for practice. Ran three routines and then froze up. Like I said I was not in the right mind state tonight.

Lesson - There is no lesson, man up!

3rd set - Noticed a HB7 looking at me from across the bar. Walk up to the two set (HB6) and jealous gf opener. HB7 IOI with hair touch but did not run a neg and as I was about to ask the best friend test question she asked "Are you hitting on us?"
Me - (Note I wasn't right and I answered with a stupid response) "Idk I am trying to figure out if you guys are kool?"
HB7 - "Nope"
Me - "Ok well let me see if you guys are best friends"
After they passed, I felt weird and just left. I don't know where my cockiness was at or my confidence for that matter. I believe I should of said what I normally said and that would be "don't flatter yourself."

Lesson - I sucked tonight lol

So I think this will be good in the long run and motivate me more because I am disappointed with my performance tonight. I plan on goin out again on Wednesday so I can get this bad taste out of my mouth.


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