Hey!

So we were at this party yesterday, before we went there, we planned what to do and what to say and how to act and so on. We are both unnaturals and new to this. When we arrived there the first thing was to smile and look like we are in a good mood and calm and so on. Went to the guy that invited us and said hello, and said hello to his friends (some girls) getting social acceptance and then we started greeting other people, girls that is.

I asked a girl if it was okay to sit down and make her some company, taking a chair while saying it and moving it to the table, she was happy about it. So we started conversating about some interesting stuff, I was also able to multithread some times.

A bit in to the conversation she gave me kino, sometimes without touching, like she was about to make physical contact with me but didn't. Then I ran a routine on her, about my friend that has a girlfriend that was jealous about him meeting with his ex. She could totally relate because her ex was meeting with her and she got emotional, I saw it in her eyes and facial expression. So the convo went on, i ran the mystery trick with her after checking compliance. She said that a friend had shown her that, she thought and maybe she knew what I was up to . Anyway I think she reconed that I was lying because I told her that I think it is okay if a guy kisses a girl, or vice versa if they have a partner and there is no emotions involved, she asked me and maybe it was a shit test I don't know.

Then later on I told her about my "ex-girlfriend", (I never really had a girlfriend) and said what happened and why I had to brake up with her. I told her that she got to drunk sometimes when partying together and other guys hit on her and she didn't know what she was doing and she hit on other guys, I tried to talk to her and some periods everything was good but she went back to old habits and I was suffering... After this it seemed like she lost interest (By telling the story in this way I think I DLV , right?). I tried to phase-shift but it was to late she ignored me, or maybe didn't hear me, doesn't matter. I knew all the IOIs where there but didn't know how to kino escalate. I did not really know that to say to her to phase-shift and that is why it took so much time for me to say it. But know I know, the music was loud so I could say, "lets go outside so we can talk because I have difficulties hearing what you are saying" or something like that.

I did the esp test, but did it wrong, I said, think of a number between 1 and 3, should have said 1 and 4, so I didn't notice this and I said three, she picked 2 haha. And the one with 1 and 10 didn't either work. Oh well.


That made me feel down, I went to the toilet and looked myself in the mirror building up a good mood and and smiling and so on because my first failure affected me, I felt it. So a good advice is to leave the room and isololate yourself, be alone for a moment and pep talk to yourself and when you get back you are in good mood and go in for a set. Which I did.


So I opened a 4 set, didn't work out so well because I didn't feel like going on from the opener to something else, and first 3 of the 4 girls talked then only 2 talked and they thought it was strange, I asked them what they think about this "friend of mine" her boyfriend was a bit drunk and went away with another guy and they kissed, so I asked for their advice. I left.

A 2 set i opened went rather good, one of the girls invited me to come with them to a party, I didn't go, I was with my friends I said. I met them again later. One of the girls did kino on me. And she laughed. I wasn't facing her, I talked over the shoulder and so did she.

Then I opened a 1 set, this girl was HOT, I think a HB7-8, she was there with her friends, guys and one of them came to her, I said she should introduce me and she did, the guy seemed befriended but they had to go.




So okey, these are some of the stuff that happened. What did I learn and what do I know now about myself and other stuff?

Okey stuff:
My body language is good (not giving to much attention, non-threatening, laid back and so on)
No problem approaching (no approach anxiety really)
Conversations are okey
I can lie and get away with it hehe (I usually am a very sincere guy and do not lie but I know the indications of a lie and that it is harder that telling the truth)

Need improving:
Not very good at negging, threw some negs but not enough (have to get better at it)
I need to kino (I suck at kino, I really really do)
Need to phase-shift when I got the IOIs and need to have a good reason for it
I do not know if I built attraction (I agreed on some stuff, I really did, and said she was special/unique because of something she said or did and that it was cool and also showed interest for accesories on her, or something about her body or her)
Did not really try to push and pull (I do not feel that I know how really)
There were some AMOG, got patted on the back but I also used this technique on others and tried to have an open stance giving signals like I am not feeling threatened)


I am very satisfied with the results really, but of course I can not stop here!
So I will try to focus on the need improving stuff for the next time
I get a feel for building up my own openers and routines which is good.

Taking the bus to the station and from there walking to some pubs to see where there were people and most importantly girls. On the way I engaged a 1 set waiting on the bus, we started talking and had a good time. I engaged her by saying, "Hey you are stepping on my toe if come closer!", she was standing with her back against me and that made her turn around facing me. Then I asked a question about the bus, which we already knew the answer to, but hey, if you know everything then what to talk about

I negged her, after asking from where to take the bus to get to the station after changing bus. She said well to get to Lund... (we already were in Lund) which I pointed out in a teasing way DLVing her. So we walked together and talked while waiting on the bus. She laughed, and had a relaxed body language, leaning against the wall. We couldn't go further it felt like.

In the pub there were almost no space. When going inside we smiled and looked around, going to the bar and ordering something. My friend took a beer and I took a glass of wine, being the only guy drinking wine... wonder if that was bad or not, some guys made fun of me I heard. Me don't care, me had other things to do

After talking a bit and he showed me some magic tricks he had learned from youtube to use we went and tried to find a set to open. My friend opened a 2-set. The thing was, he did not introduce me, and he faced his back against me. So I was shut out, remembering the series I went away to not DLV both myself and him. I opened a girl in a three set, she changed some sentences with me and laughed, good. Then they moved a bit and I went further, nothing else and turned back. The girl and her friends were blocking the way so I said to another one of them "Hey, you are standing in the way... just a little" she smiled and I kept steady eye contact. Then when I got back I engaged in the conversation and everything was fine then.

My friend DHVed alot, compared to him he was way above me. I negged one of them and then laughed and lightly touched her with my arm. The both studied psychology and one of the girls shut us out all the time by crossing her legs away from my friend, actually facing me.

Anyway, this was good and we were both satisfied with the results and I feel that I have gotten better at this.


Need improving:

Negging, better but not good enough, I need to have the guts to say something that might make the girl mad/angry but not being mean of course

Kino, it was better and the girls used kino, both on me and my friend

Learn about push and pull

Build up an arsenal of DHV statements about myself(that are true) and psychological tricks and magic tricks

Come up with openers when wanting to engage girls that are a bit drunk on their way somewhere friday/saturday night (I wanted but of some reason didn't come up with what to say, saying something like "Hey! Why are you in such a rush, it's friday?" I will come up with something hehe)


Until next weekend, take care!

Hi!

So we went out early to one of the nations here in Lund, there weren't many there, actually just me and my friend and some others. We engaged the workers, ordered something to drink and sat down in one of the couches. We talked about gaming and how people perceive us and so on thinking about that it is okay for guys to talk together and look occupied giving the impression that it is something important and interesting, so this was what we did to begin with, planning and talking psychology and stuff.

I wasted engaging a mixed 3 set with two girls, negging her because she was supposed to be an animal and I didn't even think about what just gave her the neg and the other girl complemented me about being so open and nice because Swedish people usually are not that open and go forth and talk like I did. So I invented that I like to travel and I learn some stuff from there and so on. I then left them but didn't engage the male because my friend saw that one of the girls already shut him out. Then this guy came to me but we went to another location later. I felt sorry for him, I really did but it's a game right!

I engaged a one set at the bar, she was supposed to dress as a song title, so then she said to the bartenders that she doesn't know me, then I replied "Are you going to buy me a drink?" she said "No", and before going away because I saw what was coming I said "You are so mean" in a playful smiling way of course. Later I saw her looking after me but I didn't have the intention there so I would not have worked out any way.


I danced a bit, by my self, tried to engage some girls from the front of course not being a creep. Didn't work so good but they knew each other it seemed like so there were not interested to let a stranger in I think. But I felt good and my maim goal for dancing was to feel good, I like dancing.

I engaged a two set near the bar, asking if I could join them for a little bit, after a short silence one of them said yes, so I made some conversation and they conversated to with each other which was good but I blew out and said I was going to some friends because I didn't want them to blow me out before. Got some IOI's.


Then we went to this other nation and there things didn't go very well, it started to get late, my friend engaged a set but it didn't work out. Then a student from physics came up to me, I knew him from before ( I am studding physics to) he started conversation and then his female friend came and some other tall guy. The funny thing was, the girl, she kept wanting my tie , I was like "no no, what are you doing, it is my tie, hand off hand off..." in a playful way of course. She got my tie eventually and my friend got it back for me. The odd thing was that her friend, the one I knew, kept talking to me and blocking her out , felt like he was cock-blocking her, they ware just friends but live together in an apartment.

So then when we were about to go she wanted my jacked, she kept trying to take it off me, and walked so that our arms were glued together, I think she wanted something but who knows

She maybe will come to the corridor party next week, if so I might do her, hopefully or maybe I am just hoping to much.

Improving:


What to do in mid-game

As previous posts

Neutralize obstacles and isolate target

We had a corridor party, I did some routines and I negged a lot, negging is now not a problem anymore, actually I am being more of cocky funny but sometimes the girls get all tensed up and I try giving them compliments, then it is all good again. They like never know what to expect I think, is this maybe a form of push and pull, I don't know but it works fine it seems like.

I got all these IOIs from a Chinese girl that is living just beside me in the corridor. But I did not approach her because I did not know how because she had her two Chinese male friends and all the other people were with us but we kinoed and she took my tie twice and pulled it so that it went from being loose to not being loose at all, that gave me motive to tickle her and kino.

I don't know why but that day I was very self-conscious and it annoyed me. I couldn't get my game on. Opened one set that day, there were possibilities but I don't know what happened. I think that I have to get better at mid-game know. Kino is working better, and I need to build up a better strategy.

I saw some guys that have peacocked, one had black eye-liner and a costume another guy had some rings and bracelets so I guess that there were some puas or wanna be puas there.

We went to a nation later and there we danced, and so on. On the way home the was freezing so a bit later I took her arm and crossed it with mine and pulled her near me, she wanted to pull away and kept saying "Nononono", I continued engaging her two male friends and talking about the stars, she added something and I talked to her again like nothing happened.

Later that day I texted the Chinese girl and eventually had the guts to invite her over to me, she said it was to late for her and I told her that I know how much the time is and it does not matter for me, it mattered for her and she said good night little boy(her English is not very good so don't know how to interpret that, but I don't think about it), I told her it is a good night but it could be better. This was at about 2:30 AM Saturday. I haven't talked to her after that.

It will be interesting tomorrow when we probably will meet in the kitchen or something, I will act like normal, like I did before. Might try ti kino more know that she probably knows that I wanna do her. If she is mad then that is her problem, but she shouldn't be because I have been a nice guy with her.


Need improving:
- Mid-game
- Strategy from start to finish
- Isolate the target
- See possibilities and open them

Better:
- Negging
- Kino



There is one guy in my corridor, he is really good, I saw him, don't know if he has read something or not, but he is a nice guy and he knows how to work women, that is the impression I got. A girl he talked to before going out asked if he would come and wanted him to come, almost like she begged hehe. I thought of opening myself a little for him and tell him about my problems and start talking about girls with him. At the bar he was with a girl and when I approached him he turned to me and said very seriously, "Take it easy, I am with a girl".

And I got reminded of the thing that is fueling me to do this again, the girl that I couldn't have, that I fell in love with and that gave me a "No". I need to fix this because I don't wanna suffer like this anymore, and I want to stop thinking of her. Probably will meet her this summer in Romania, hope I am gonna get laid before that...

Until next time, take care, I am glad that I stumbled upon this community

Its good to know you are on the field trying to improve, thats the key.

Anyway, about your problem, man, you need some routines. Its okay, you have the opener and you have the ability to mantain the conversation, but yet you are not scalating. You need some planning. DHV stories that you know by heart, just change a few thins on the roll. You definetly DLV yourself by telling your girlfriend cared more about other guys than she cared about you. If you are having trouble at mid-game, that is what routines are used for, Cubing them works like a charm for me. Then i try to scalate and always keep on some kino going. I sentence i found usefull is when you are talking to her, when she tells something about herself (She likes a kind of music, she is a writer, she likes dancing, whatever) I reply with "Good, that is the type of girl that I like" Worked fine.

Plan things a little bit more. "Opener - BBtalk (Blabla talk) - Routine - DHV - BBtalk - Scalate - Phaseshift.
You can switch things up if you like, but it is good to have a plan so you know what to do, if you know what to do, they realise you are not just another guy stumbling all over her.

Good Sarging.