Alright, everyone. I made a post last week starting my journey as a pickup artist, and it was titled "First time sarging" or something along those lines.

Well, I've decided to start a journal. It should keep me more motivated.

I'm going to post the previous two posts (from the misnamed thread) here, then tonight's report in a post directly below this one. So here were the first two original posts:

"Thursday, September 20, 2012

Alright.

First, a quick rundown on me. I'm a typical computer geek. I'm 21 and in college. I'm tall, skinny, not half bad looking, and I have a pretty awesome beard. Blue eyes. Dirty blond hair.

Tonight was my first experience sarging, and it was definitely that. An experience. I rather enjoyed it, too.

I thought I'd share my experience with you all and outline what I learned. It may be a bit scatter-brained. I'm tired because I just got back.

I decided to wear a farmville t-shirt that I got from Zynga when they visited my school looking for potential hires. As expected, it got a lot of great attention, and it allowed some groups to open ME.

Ex: "What the hell man? Why are you wearing a farmville shirt? Really?"
"What do you mean? Virtual farming is serious business! Hey, speaking of cool business, want to see an awesome magic trick?"
Really easy way to open. If you learn a few card tricks, I found out you can hand the box to the target to keep them around.

When I get into performance mode, I start to forget that I'm trying to pick up a target and just perform. (I'm a well-practiced magician)

Anyway - the main things I learned tonight:

1. Magic tricks are a really, REALLY, great way to DHV. People love them. AMOGs don't, but hey - they can guess how it's done all they want. It just makes them DLV.

2. Negging works. Really well. I really had no idea until tonight. It's kind of incredible.

3. It's really hard to choose a target when none of them are attractive, but it's good practice anyway.

4. Don't interrupt people playing a game. It's rude, and they're really good at ignoring you. Also, they're in the middle of the game and are preoccupied. The first group I tried to open was a group playing pool. They were really nice, but I never reached the hook point.

5. Approaching people really isn't difficult. Just do it. Everyone I approached (other than an AMOG) was actually really nice tonight. It makes it easier if you've been a well-practiced magician for the past 8 years.

6. AMOGs can be really lame. I was handling one pretty well, but then my group bounced...which leads me to my next point.

7. Trying to sarge during your female friend's 22nd birthday party isn't the best idea in the world. It's a mistake that I'm already obligated to make again tomorrow, though, for my other friend's birthday.

The main problem with going with a birthday group is the fact that they keep bouncing. I was never in a place long enough to get past A2 before I had to bounce.

Overall, the locations we went were pretty dead. Compared to when I visited these bars last year to get drunk, anyway. I remember them being much more crowded. I could count the amount of small groups we ran into tonight on less than 2 hands.

I'll keep you all updated on tomorrow - my second experience sarging.

And if anyone has some good tips for keeping the red-faced, overly defensive AMOGs in check, I'd love to hear them.

Next weekend, I think I'm going to sarge alone - much easier - less obligated to bounce around with the birthday party group.

Peace for now.
-ChaosRifle

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Friday, September 21, 2012


Alright. I've decided to turn this thread into a journal since I don't need to post a ton of threads.

Night 2. My second time sarging - also during a friend's 22nd birthday party.

Earlier in the day I bought a new hat for peacocking. People seemed to like it.

The night started out really well! We partied at my friend's apartment, and one of my friend's friends was really attractive, so I negged her a lot and conversed with her while practicing kino escalation. We had a lot in common (rapport!), and she showed some definite IOIs (touching, being playful back, etc) but had to leave the party early because her parents were in town. I'm anticipating a facebook add because she asked my name, and we're mutual friends with the host...but I guess we'll find out more later.

A few hours later, about half of the party went home, and half went downtown to go to bars and clubs. We started out at a great place with an outdoor area that I like to frequent, and I opened several sets. None of them wanted me to leave (Woo hook point!), but I'm still having a lot of trouble focusing on getting the specific target attracted to me. I'm not yet able to traverse A2. At least I'm good at DHVing though.

I saw a group that I met last year (and ended up in the friend zone of one of my targets (HB 8 or 9)...this was way before I discovered the seduction community). I did some magic tricks for the group while negging the girl I used to be interested in (the one that I'm pretty sure I'm in the friend zone with), and she kept being really grabby and touchy. She also told me she liked my new hat. After a few tricks and some light conversation, I rejoined my friends.

The next one I assumed went horribly. I went over, and it went something like this:
Me: "Hey, want to see an awesome magic trick?"
Her: "Is this how you usually pick up girls?"
Me: "Ha. I'm not that easy."

I went into the card trick and really baffled her...she kept guessing at it...I need to work on conversation skills though. I couldn't successfully reignite the conversation before I backed out and her and her friends went on their merry ways. it sort of ended there...or so I thought.

Later in the night when we were at a dance club, I saw her again. She was hanging out and talking to/dancing with a few of my friends that were at the party (and are homosexual). She saw me when she came over to our group, and I made her smile by saying "Hey, you followed me all the way from [other bar...kept secret for anonymity]"

The club was too loud to actually carry on a conversation, though, and I hadn't built enough with her to isolate her or bounce to another bar, but she definitely kept her eye on me after that...especially since I sort of ignored her and just had a good time. Never got her name, but she was an HB9 or 10 in my book. I might see her again since she knows my friends. We'll see how it plays out.

I need to figure out the whole isolation thing.


After the bars were closed, my friends and I headed to McDonalds. I didn't want anything to eat, but damn was I thirsty. Me and some of my friends waited outside while the other half of the remaining group went in to get food.

All of a sudden, the girl that I'm already in the friend zone with and her group (the one I mentioned earlier) walked up to McDonalds with her friends. One of the girls from the group (HB 7 or split off and asked me to do some more magic. I made her convince me, but I love performing, so I did a few more tricks while the rest of their group went through the "walk-through" of McDonalds. However, the walk-through wasn't operational so the one girl (Friendzone girl as she shall be dubbed) went inside and signaled for me to follow her. I ignored her at first and kept talking to my friends outside. Then I decided the air conditioning was nicer inside and kept her company in line.

Her friends sort of wandered off...mine were still around.

We had some fun conversation in line. I updated her on my life. She wanted me to hold her place in line, but I told her she had to qualify herself for that.

skipping ahead...

She bought me a sprite for waiting around and hanging out with her (Free sprite! Great success). Both of our friend groups had wandered off by this point, so we just hung out and talked until she finished her meal and headed home. We both had early morning meetings, and it was already 3:30 by this point. I was worried about her making it home safely, but her apartment was closer than my car, so we split and went our separate ways. I texted to make sure she got home safely. In hindsight it probably would have been better to walk her home regardless of her saying she was pretty sure she would be safe.

Thus ends my night. Still no number or k-closes, but I'm getting closer. I can get past the hook point with ease, and I can get the group to like me. All in all, even though I didn't get anywhere, I made progress, and I did some great approaches. Thus, I consider tonight a success. I might go out again tomorrow and try on my own or get my brother to wing me."

September 28, 2012

Tonight was kind of a failure.

I'm still having a LOT of trouble getting past the opener, and I'm sort of starting to fall behind my magician persona. I can approach and tell people I want to do magic for them, but then it seems to end there. No number or k-closes yet.

I approached four sets tonight.

All of them wanted to see magic.

Wait I scratch that. I approached three sets tonight. The fourth one butted into my other set and were SUPER energetic and excited about my magic. The other group kind of wandered off.

Toward the end, I saw the girl that I am in the friendzone of (and need to stop being infatuated with) and ran over and "bumped into her" saying "Hey, watch where you're going ;D"

HOWEVER, some other guy was already calling her over at the precise moment that I bumped into her (a total dick with long girl hair and no fashion sense), and said "Hey no one cares about your magic." After that, she said WITH A LARGE SMILE ON HER FACE "You know about [my name]'s magic?" It kind of ruined my confidence for the remainder of the night, and I wandered off before I could see where it went. I should have said "Dude chill out. I'm just saying hey to my friend!"
However, I didn't. I chickened out, and I walked off. Lesson learned. Don't back down to AMOGs.

Confidence ruined, I headed back to my car to drive home. After I started driving, I thought to myself. "You know what. If I ever want to be a pickup artist, fuck it. I have to go approach women." Then I said aloud, "IF I EVER WANT TO BE A PICKUP ARTIST, I HAVE TO GO APPROACH WOMEN."

I parked in the closest parking lot, got out, walked back to the bars, and completely failed to approach any more sets. I need to get into the mindset of "It's a pleasure to talk to me." Tonight, I was in the mindset of "I don't want to interrupt their conversation." The night was really anticlimactic and ended early. It's crazy how much one douchebag can affect a person's confidence when he's a dick to you in front of a girl you're interested in.

Well...we'll see what happens tomorrow.

I'm determined to be a Pickup artist, and I know the road isn't easy. Fridays are typically more busy, so I'll have several more targets.

At least I know that most people like magic, and the douchebag was probably just jealous.

I CAN DO THIS.

October 5, 2012

Tonight was a lot of fun.

However, I still haven't even number closed.

It's horrible. It's really, really horrible.

There was a point in the night when I was performing magic for five incredibly beautiful girls. All 9s or 10s. ALL OF THEM WERE GORGEOUS. I could have asked for ANY of their numbers. ANY OF THEM. They were all in to me. IT WAS OBVIOUS. So many IOIs.

I JUST. DIDN'T. PULL. THE. TRIGGER.

I think I need to stop relying so much on my magic. It's a great skill. It really is. However, when I get behind the cards, I lose myself and just become a performer. I think my goal for tomorrow night is to use an indirect opener that DOESN'T involve magic AT LEAST twice. I can do some magic early in the night, build up confidence and social value, and then just approach groups and talk to them.

I also need to learn how to pick a target. When you get lost in the group, it's really hard to pick a target to isolate.

The thing is, I know all of this is possible. I know it's possible to just talk to people. I was hanging out with a guy tonight who could talk to girls that he even said were out of his league. He just walked up to them and had them ENTHRALLED. I'VE SEEN IT WITH MY OWN TWO EYES. I want to be able to do that without my magic.

The real quest begins tomorrow night.

Stay tuned.