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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:52 pm 
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Ok so here is my diary to date, this doesn't include when I started for a few weeks about 2 years ago I NEED to keep on top of this shit!...

Feel free to comment/criticise/PM for a meet!
I warn you that there is nothing interesting here yet!
Hopefully this well be some sort of awesome progression, we shall see...
(Names changed to protect the innocent)


06-Jan-12 – Fri – Bristol - With JLiv and Jam LW -

Bristol with JLiv and JamLW. Out 9-3:30. Pitcher and Piano, Green House, Java and Embargo Started off slow, got to know each other. JamLW is ver good and natural, JLiv is pretty good and more 'theoretical'. Approaches were ok but need to smile more and be more playful. I need to escalate more and not get stuck mid-game. I run out of stuff to say and I feel like i'm not building to something. Must do more kino, get closer and be more intimate. AA went downhill massively but I still feel like I need to have something to say, not just 'you look hot' but I suppose it's just to get them chatting and as long as they do, you are golden. MUST BE MORE PLAYFUL WITH JOB - SECRET AGENT!? All that sort of shit. Closing should always be tested I think, do I walk away too often? I do it so I can get social proof, not rush it and then have them more confortable (2nd chat) when you are asking for number/bounce etc. All in all, very good. I'm no pro but I learnt a bit even if just 'OPEN and don't think about it so much'. You can learn before and after but when you are there, JUST DO IT. The whole game needs work.
Was SOBER throughout and the club was BUSY and ANNOYING with people bumping in to me. If I can do it in these surroundings - new people, sober and SHIT club then I can do it anywhere.

Work on:
ALL. Mainly better openers, mid-game ie. Running out of stuff to say and not escalating intimacy and kino. Lie about work for a laugh.

Main Lessons:
Open more, learn after and before. Opener is just to chat about other stuff.
Maybe too aggressive?
Being in a set is more fun that not being in a set!!
Sex or shoes?
Look up RSD and download it.

Just knowing that I CAN DO IT and the result isn't gonna kill anyone makes me feel confident enough to 'do it with the boys at home'.

07-Jan-12 – Saturday – Bristol - With JamLW, Gab and JH.

Bristol with JamLWW, Gab and JH. Pitcher and piano then Embargo. Late start - Embargo about 2330. Really not my place. Way too busy can't even stand still on dance floor! Night started slow again. First opener ended with a girl unbuttoning my shirt and JH trying some chicks jacket on. This was a better night than last week, more relaxed, still took a while getting in to opening but once I did it flowed a bit easier but I feel a bit easier having someone with me. No closes as didn't try but atleast 3 were probably do-able. Still need to work on attraction, still getting 'stuck' about 10mins in, comfort is defo there, I think attraction is so i'm just not escalating well enough or not pulling the trigger. One girl told me she had B/F but I just kept going, it went well even so but it felt more difficult to escalate, I was happier, smiling more and more fun to be with. Saw 3 girls on dance floor and wasn't sure how to approach until I saw someone else do it!!! Answer being JUST GO AND FUCKING APPROACH, just walk over and chat!

Work On:
1. Not even trying to close! You seem cool, let me get your number & we'll catch up next time you're here!?
2. Still some AA - JUST approach!
3. Getting 'stuck'! Why?
4. If you cant hear a girl, who gives a fuck just talk!

Main Lesson:
1. Lean back.
2. Approach more.
3. Close more!



22/9/12 – Saturday – Daygame – Bristol – Cabot Circus – With Detox.
Cabot Circus Bristol, 1500 - 1900ish. Met at Costa, a quick meet and greet and the sarging began. Detoxe seemed a bit older than me, I wondered if maybe too old that we might look weird/be out of sync but he had a lot of experience. He was awesome with the confidence and did the first few approaches. This spurred me on a lot and when he wasn't sure and was saying "shall we" my answer was pretty much always yes and we attempted some tough groups. In order (roughly), the first group was a 2 set, outside a shop just chatting/on phones. Detoxe opened with the "sorry we're late opener" and we began talking, they seemed a bit weirded out but we continued to plough, i noticed wristbands and talked about those a bit, slipped in a compliment and then 2 other friends came out. We got them to introduce us and told their friends they were weird as they randomly stopped us and started chatting. The set seemed to die out a little, why I don't know? I didn't escalate at all, this may have been it. I can't remember how it ended but it split fairly mutual, we should have attempted a close. We continued to do laps of the place. We approached 2 girls in the queue at Costa and I opened with "brave choice with the red trousers, I have a pair, not as tight", Detoxe commented and said he also had her sandles, blah blah blah, a good little chat, some laughs but they had to stop talking to order and they were facing away from us as they were queuing, turning her to face me would have been ideal, I suppose I could have gone for a kino game or something, but maybe a little wierd midday in a queue at Costa, ideas?
Another set involved approaching a stand selling make-up and I asked if they had any make up tips, we got chatting and the HB6 (HB7 from far, haha) seemed quite receptive, I suggested I get her number and meet her later in Bath (as she was going there) her mate mentioned she had a BF and I said 'he must be lovely' she said they had just split up so I said well you could go out with me to rub it in his face, then laughed and said only kidding, we parted ways again here and this was a failuire on my behalf, I think I could have got a decent #close here but I didn't push hard enough. she told me she had split with her BF when she could have stuck with that line.
We approached 2 girls sitting on a step fairly on they looked young so I said are you freshers, they said no, how old are you? 15! Ok, Detoxe they're 15, have a lovely day girls bye. This happened on 2 more occasions. One of those I used what I thought was a good opener, I asked for directions to Gap and then said, ok I know where Gap is, you look hot so I just wanted to say hello.
We tried a few indirect openers in Debenhams with no real solid success, 2 HB8s helped me pick a pair of jeans for my little sister who was their size, I think maybe we didn't stack enough because they just went good luck and left, while I pondered whether I would have to buy those jeans so it didn't look like I was lying, haha, I didnt!
All in all no real success but for me (last time I was out properly sarging was 7th Jan) was a really good confidence builder/learning and just a good experience.

Observations/questions: Do a 26yr old and a 35yr old look weird being out together chatting to random girls.
This was my first bit of day-game, I enjoyed it.
I felt that as a group of 2 maybe when we approached we were a bit too intimidating maybe we should have 1 hanging back while one does the approach and after 5mins the other can come and join in.

Oh and we sat down in a restaraunt next 2 two girls, HB7s, who looked very confused, we pulled up chairs I introduced myself, Detoxe went for the 'sorry we're late', I said you look cool, we thought we'd say hello, she basically told me to keep walking and spoke to her friend in Russian, Detoxe responded by speaking French, it went down like a led balloon but was pretty hilarious!

22/9/12 – Saturday – Nightgame – ND & Detox – Bristol.

Back out in Bristol city centre, we went to Goldrick bar? Browns, the woods? Some greek sounding place and 1 or 2 others. ND was new and we hadn’t met him before, fairly young lad originally from London, with Detox and me in jeans, shoes and jacket and ND in trainers and a hoodie/coat I wasn’t sure if it made us look weird or added to the interest aspect of the group, we didn’t dwell on it, nobody mentioned it and we cracked on. Back out in Bristol city centre, we went to Goldrick bar? Browns, the woods? Some greek sounding place and 1 or 2 others. ND was new and we hadn’t met him before, fairly young lad originally from London, with Detox and me in jeans, shoes and jacket and ND in trainers and a hoodie/coat I wasn’t sure if it made us look weird or added to the interest aspect of the group, we didn’t dwell on it, nobody mentioned it and we cracked on.
We met 2 groups of girls at the bar in Goldrick bar, both opened with Detox’s ‘sorry we’re late, it was TTs fault’ which seemed to go ok, we got quiet a bit of ‘segregation’ if that’s the right word, as in they didn’t really engage with us and was facing the bar, again I wasn’t sure how to deal with this, I worried that we looked a bit like a pack preying on them and wondered again if it was better approaching alone and building a bit of rapport before the wing entered. Even still we got a little bit of good chat but they went to find a table. I highlighted here that I had a tendancy to lay off if I felt girls were not interested and Detox was clear that he wanted to plough until they literally said ‘fuck off’. I’m not sure what is best here, we’ll figure it out with time. Probably somewhere in the middle. clear that he wanted to plough until they literally said ‘fuck off’. I’m not sure what is best here, we’ll figure it out with time. Probably somewhere in the middle.
Later in Browns we got a few sets out in the smoking area, 2 of which seemed pretty interested but were dragged to the next bar by friends. One of which was throwing out some solid IOIs and I was just thinking to number close as they both disappeared. I’ve decided next time I will establish a rule that we ATTEMPT to close EVERY set, unless they are under-age, even if a girl says fuck off, I’m gonna say ‘i’ve got a better idea, how about you give me your number and we’ll meet up another time, I know you’ll enjoy it...’ or some shit, but no matter what, ALWAYS attempt the close.
We met another set and that went ok, we were chatting nicely, got a few laughs, some weak kino like a hug but I feel I got stuck in the mid-game and couldn’t escalate and it ended up fizzling out and they went.another set and that went ok, we were chatting nicely, got a few laughs, some weak kino like a hug but I feel I got stuck in the mid-game and couldn’t escalate and it ended up fizzling out and they went.
Another set – 1 married, 1 with children and the other one who someone else was talking to was apparently a boring fuc*er.
Another set – Really wasn’t even worth the time but we didn’t want to go stale, 1 was Russian and literally said about 15 words and did a lot of pointing, the other look carribean, a really weird duo, we cut our losses from there and pissed off.
Meanwhile ND managed a free drink at the bar using the 5-lies game, I was impressed, haha.
We ended in The Woods after trying to get in to The Big Chill but they were shut, a lot of people were starting to look VERY drunk. The woods was literally 95% cock & balls, that is now on my list of places NOT to go. Detox’s enthusiasm is awesome and he went into a mixed set with some girls we spoke to earlier but it didn’t go well, good attitude though, he clearly didn’t give a shit. Making me realise, at least when you’re starting, atleast 50% of it is having the balls to get stuck in.

23/9/12 – Sunday – With Neo – Bath City Centre. Daygame.

Never met Neo before, he’s only been out once. Grabbed a coffee, assumed he would get take out so we could get straight in to it but he got them to sit in, I looked around and nothing in the shop. We did a quick intro and had a good chat actually. He had only been out once before and I found myself giving him advice which in turn was stuff I knew I should be doing. I decided a good way to get in to it would be to ask people for directions to somewhere for a variety of reasons. Firstly it lets you shake out and get talking to people without stressing your AA, secondly it lets you get a closer look and decide if you want to approach which with one girl was handy, she was pretty from far but far from pretty and obviously it allows you to go for something situational like ‘that’s a crazy hat’ or you look cool I only really wanted to say hello etc. The combination of the fact it was late (shops shut), the rain was crap and we are both RAFCs meant that we had no real action at all. If i’m honest I think we walked past 2 2-sets that we SHOULD have approached, I said hello to pretty much everyone but little else. Next time we will nail it and we will set a goal such as we wont leave until we have 3 approaches each. We were probs only there for 45mins.


Summary: After a busy weekend i’m full of enthusiasm and I plan to go out atleast twice this week to keep my skills/confidence. Next weekend i’m away in London and have a party or 2 organised so will continue to practice.
Hopefully guys, this will be the start of the Bath lair which I intend to start putting together.

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Tony T


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