My wingman and I (he also knows and studies game) go to this local college club every wednesday and It tends to be somewhat loud. None the less we walk to the end of the bar, which is pretty packed btw, and we notice two hb 8's next to us. One of which comes up and taps me on the back and says, "dance with me" and i turn over my shoulder and said "why?" trying to make her qualify herself to me because it was obvious she thought highly of herself but before I could do anything she turns around and starts dancing on me, I dance and try to talk to her and include her friend in the conversation, but its so f ing loud. After a few minutes she politely stops and walks away because i didnt make her work for it like i should have but its pretty packed anyway and walking away happens a lot. So My friend and I walk to the other side of the bar we opened well, talked to a few sets but couldn't get passed the opener. We opened with "if a girl kisses another girl is it cheating?" and we both took opposite sides as if we "had been arguing about this". I know how to stack forward but its hard in that SPAM to even have a conversation...later that night i walked by and a girl just started backing it up on me really hard and we danced and got slightly physical but when i kissed her on the neck she was liking it a little but eventually she abruptly stopped and started dancing with her friends. I know how to stack forward but its so packed and so loud, and these girls get hit on all the time when they come to this particular club, and there tends to be plenty of girls but also in turn tends to be more guys then girls so here is my problem.....

does anybody know how to dhv or at least make a lasting impression in this type of SPAM? How do you dance with a girl, and build attraction or dhv when its hard to talk? How soon do you ask for a number? because I want them to text me back and if I don't build attraction or make an impression she is likely not going to text me back obviously. Use magic? I know mystery uses magic. But even thats limited in a bar. Idk if isolation that quick is good. Or should we use more abrupt openers? Like "I make it a rule to talk to the cutes/hottest girl in the club soooo do you know her? (pointing to another girl)" Maybe then your not hitting on them or opening them per se and you come off cocky funny because they do tend to get hit on a lot. Also its easy for them to find something else because there are a lot of guys there so walking away tends to be easy. I know preselection tends to work, but right now I want to take that out of the equation because I want to pick up a girl at the club. I appreciate any feed back as far as dancing/loud game goes.