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 Post subject: The 30 Day Challenge
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:11 am 
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So basically I think everyone should do this regardless of how much game they have just something to test who they are and grow. I looked online and found out about a book by Neil Strauss - Rules of the Game which details 30 days worth of challenge that would help improve your game. This will be both a review of the book as well as my experience with doing the tasks.

I am 21 years old probably the worst pick up artist or in general womanizer in the world. I am not ashamed of calling myself a virgin and really could careless about sex it doesn't intrigue me in anyway. The only reason the PUA fascinates me is the fact of using interaction with words, posture and looks to have someone hold to words. Its kinda like a power which holds other to your words and wanting more.

Now that you know why I am in the game and my reason's i feel the only way to achieve this goal would have to do this 30 day challenge. There is probably many ways of going about achieving this by simply approaching using openers, but the neil strauss book seems like a perfect start.

I would appreciate the support and anyone interested in giving advice I would greatly appreciate that as I probably am the last person to have game and i feel reading these books are just pulling my further away as its really hard to follow at times with all the rules.

I will be starting April 16th 2012 and Day 1 would have me start small talk with anyone. It can be on sports, news, anything. Male or female just start small with anyone just to get over the anxiety of talking and approaching people.

I will post the results as well as the next challenge. If people want to join me then follow this post and please post replies. Lets make this something bigger and do this as a team.

I hope this helps you out and as I go through this I will post more about my past, as well as detailed information of lines, conversations, and the girls or guys i speak to!


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Hey jcombs! You are just the type of guy I've been looking for. Good job on the balls-upping . I started this thing too. The problem is keeping it going. I'm posting my results in approach anxiety extreme post in the introductions. The lack of feedback kind of discouraged me at first. But I'm still standing. :) anyways, good luck on the challenge. Keep posting. Coz I wanna see another guy progress.
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 Post subject: Day 1
PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:23 am 
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Well I talked to 5 people but I counted only 3 officially since I was at a gym. The 5 People were all guys at my gym. I didnt have time to PUA in the mall and the weather was horrible so I decided to try the gym.

Guy #1:

Talked to a guy about his nike shoes that he had and asked if they had the nike+ running support that tracks his speed, distance and etc. Conversation was pretty good we had an interactive conversation which led into more workout stuff.

Guy #2:

Ask him to spot me randomly with the weights and discussed workout routines.

Guy #3:

Talked about hockey and the NHL Finals which we both were interested in looking too. He was talking about how he hated Pitsburgh and that he wanted Vancouver to win.

I want to continue this challenge into day 2 and have some approaches with women too rather then all guys plus the last 2 guys were friends so it wouldnt count really.

I find it has helped thought talking to people and doing small things to improve my anxiety approaches with people in general. I felt ashamed sometimes just to ask for a spot for weights something so simple because i assumed it was a pain and no one would want to.

Thanks all for the feed back and please reply with future advice such as certain topics to talk about with women and ways to get rid of anxiety.

I love the support and need it greatly at the moment!


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Good job. :!:


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 Post subject: Day 2
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:52 am 
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Well I tried approaching women but i didn't feel as natural as I wish I wanted too. It was perfectly fine though but although I kinda felt since my mood was a little down today by the fact of not shaving, and really feeling not as my usual self made gaming harder. I did end up finishing though with 2 approaches with women to end my 5 man game. I also approached an extra person in the gym and ended up making a friend out of it surprisingly.

Lady #4:

Met her in the elevator and I knew she was coming from the unemployment office which was one floor below where I was visiting my lawyer. I asked her if she was unemployed, she replied yes then I asked her how long did some small talk for 1 minute before reaching the bottom floor at this point we just both went our own ways.

The small talk was great and she was pretty hot HB8.5 Latin lady with a very hot accent. It made up for my bad start of a day and feeling like shit pretty much. I was glad and kinda felt like i bench pressed the world.

Lady #5

I was in the mall and this lady in the book store was looking at the section where all the harry potter, twilight and etc. I made the comment "Oh no we got another twilight fan here in aisle 3 someone call security" she laughed and said "NO its for my cousin". At this point I said "yeah thats what they all say! Its okay I can help you I am a trained professional psychologist". At this point we did small talk, and I find out she is 16 and I inform her to ready more books like "A Tale of two Cities" by charles dickens great book. She took my advice and bought the book that same time. Obviously she was a lot younger so i walked out with a great feeling.

Guy #6

This one was introduced by a friend. He pretty much told me his name after that we talked. Ended up working out for 90 minutes with him and we have become good friends. I normally dont do this but decided to for the challenge and ended up making a good friend as a result.

Overall this challenge was great the good thing about it was that i approached something that took a lot of guts in my opinion but the downside is I think I didnt put as much effort it was just kinda difficult starting conversation so randomly and it was so not normal in the day especially over topics which I could careless to talk about made it even more akward. For that reason I hope the next challenge improves this aspect and makes my game more natural.


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 Post subject: Day 2 - Approach Part 1
PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:41 am 
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Well full day with my family going to UK and didnt have time to do PUA. I decided to do Day 2 with approaching 5 women and getting there eye color by simply taking it through intervals.

#1 Girl - HB 6.5

This lady was much older probably late 20s or early 30s. I didnt realize it till i got closer, but i decided to go for it anyways by simply asking her where the bus stop was. It was a simple conversation but she soon started walking away as she was speaking so I ended conversation. The color of her eyes were Green, but overall she wasnt as attractive and i didnt feel a connection to further conversation also.

I ll continue to post more on my daily pick up challenge. Hopefully I can finish day 2 tomorrow!


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 3:30 pm 
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So yesterday I decided to go to a club. My wingman's car broke down and he couldn't make it, so I decided to go clubbing by myself and at first I felt so embarrassed. I actually entered the venue walked right in at 10:30 and decided to go straight to the smokers pit because there wasn't anyone there. My AA was at an all time high, because not just did I not know anyone but there was barely anyone in the club because it was so early.

First Approach:

It was around 10:50pm, this girl was trying to light her cigarette but her lighter wasn't working. She came to me and asked for my lighter, I used a little neg by saying I would have to charge her for this; she laughed and I then realized I opened the set. I then told her a story about my taxi right to the club and she found it funny. Then I pointed something about her smile which she then found interesting. At this point she grabbed my necklace and as she did that I said "Get your hands of the merchandise otherwise I will have to charge you". She then began touching it more and I then grabbed her closer to me and said "Babe thats going to be 150$ now I think we may have to start a tab on you". This HB 6.5 began laughing and I then find out her name is Ashley. This guy then comes over asks for a smoke + lighter too so I then give him one. Then as I leave and tell her I would meet her inside later tonight; I then point to the guy and say I hope you guys have a great time and gesture as if those two were going to get it in. She laughed more then continued talking to other guy who was a total AFC.

Second Approach:

At around 11:15pm right after talking to the first girl, I decided to make some guy friends. I end up talking to this random black dude who looked like a total loser, but at the end of the night I realized this guy was actually a really good guy. He helped me get over my AA the whole time. I talked about me being a PUA he started laughing and told me its about showing respect, but in the clubs its also about how much a girl drinks and to watch for both.

This guy then points to a 3 set of girls dancing. They all were taller then me, but this guy convinced me that taller girls are the wildest creatures of the jungle. I kid you not this kid said that. I was laughing pretty hard and kinda just said FUCK IT lets go. The three set I knew was going to reject us but i decided to practice.

I used the opener "Hey, does my friend look like a drug dealer?; a couple of guys randomly came up to us and asked if we had weed". It was hard to hear because the music got extremly loud, so I had to repeat it twice, but she did open with me and laughed. I then pulled the nice smile line and she found it interesting. I used the best friends test, but they were interested and i knew why because they were just way taller then us. I left, but my wingman stayed and danced with them.

Third Approach:

As I walked away from the second set, to go back to my spot in the club. I noticed 2 girls were standing on our spot. I opened from the back of one of the girls and she got scared... "DONT OPEN SETS FROM BEHIND!!!!!"

So i apologized and told her I would have to charge her for standing in that spot since she stole it from me. She laughed and I then used my regular openers and routines with the smile and etc. 10 minutes into conversation her other friend Ashley my first approach comes in and begins touching my necklace. I used the merchandise neg she didn't respond to well. I was overwhelmed by the number of girls since there was 3 and only me. My wing came later on and stole the girl I wanted but in all honesty it was fine. I didnt see myself being very interested in them since they were on the plus size, except the girl I wanted she was an HB 7.5. Ashley loved talking to me but the problem was actually holding a conversation with them all. I wasn't into the two girls and the one that I was into was stolen. Ashley kept looking at her friend saying "LETS DANCE", I didnt know if that was my que to take them. Anyways the set left found a random friend and then I went back to my next set.

Fourth Approach:

I went outside for a smoke again. Met these twins both were HB 7. They were Trinidadian and I love Trini girls. Anyways they asked for a light and I sensed they wanted to talk to me really badly. The girl kept staying around me really close and was so interested in my opener. I used the jealous girl friend opener she was like totally into it giving me her whole 2 cents. I litterally listend and neg'd her by saying she was like the View. I told her she had a nice smile used that game. Used the best friends test. Then a random dude with them comes. To disengage the guy I ask for his name and see if they know each other. The guy loved that I did that. The girls were leaving and the guy made them come, but the one girl was staying there and I knew she wanted to talk because her sister was like lets go, she kept saying I still gotta finish my smoke. She was pretty done but i knew she wanted to stay. I decided to tell the guy I would bring her back. He said "We have a booth stop by and we all can have drinks". He was leaving but the sister was taking her total COCK BLOCK!!!

She left but i got her name and i didnt see her later that night.

Fifth Approach:

Met these two girls randomly dancing it was hilarious they called me off as a playah because they saw me talk to girls. She guessed I had 5 numbers by now. I told her they were friends. She laughed and totally put her bitch shield on. She didnt like any of my canned stuff. I had a really good laugh with them and it was pretty funny. I used some random stuff I learned like the LA, NYC handshakes an etc. tested the stuff out.

Sixth Approach

These girls were lesbians. Total HB 8.5 and they loved talking to me + my wing. The girl i was not hittign on got totally jealous. I used all the canned stuff it worked great. Used kino + mind reading. Amazing stuff and it was hilarious but her friend total cock block. I think I could have had a three some if it wasnt for her since the girl loved talking to me. She told me about her life and it was crazy connection. She wouldn't go to far and kept saying her friend would be jealous if I left with you.

I need advice on threesomes this was a total possibility of one and I totally fucked it up!!!

I had 2 more approaches i wont talk about its long enough this post. Great night no number closes I was just practicing A1 to A2 phase GREAT night.

I got totally scared of going by myself to a club but it turned out great. I will do it again if i need to and wont hesitate. a lot of people do it and you dont realize it till you find out your gaming the girls they with.


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Have not posted on this forum for a while but i re-did the challenge now I am on day 3 will be getting that started soon! I had exams + work and poor wing man resulted in a bad week. I think now i came to realize that its not about who you do it with but yourself. I think it may be best to go out by myself each time women may precieve you as being a bigger man since you can manage to talk without others around you.
I have decided to do my 30 day challenge without a wing and continue to see if i get results. I will have Day 3 done and continue on without a wing or any assistance by someone else.


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Basically spent my week with very little approaches probably because I am so tired from coming back from work and this weekend it was my friends birthday made it difficult. I have found 2 guys who want to wing so it would be perfect to go out with them. I Notice for night gaming that you should never change your wing. That was something that I did and it hindered me deeply, as they are not use to what you have to say.


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 Post subject: Day 6 - 6/17/12
PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:42 am 
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So its now the 16th of june and I decided to go clubbing with a friend to continue my challenges. I have been pretty relaxed i have no idea why and not really feeling motivated to do more stuff into it. Yet i feel i can grasp new methods of picking up girls and improving my self-image yet it keeps going downhill since i will always feel i am stuck in the same spot.

I tend to feel comfortable opening sets, yet like a ticking time bomb when it comes to continuing conversation I have had much trouble and it tends to blow up as time continues to go down. I have even decided to invest in so much material to improve my game yet i continue to fall behind because of work and no motivation to continue.

Well i went clubbing and decided to meet my friend at the club. Instead of us both going together i decided maybe we do it individually and i meet him there, this was so then i can get use to going by myself. I was so freaking nervous out of my mind that I was shitting myself and felt like throwing up. I think I spent 1 hour and it felt like the world was coming to an end for me. I started a conversation with a bouncer didn't go well in the smokers pit. Then right after I went inside and talked to two guys. I felt the club was dead and didnt have much going but I decided to continue to stay just because I had payed the entrance fee. After talking to the two guys I really felt like I had the worst approach anxiety in my life. As if i was going to die. I dont really drink so i was 100% sober the whole time. I was even contemplating getting drunk to make things easier but I decided not too.

I think half of the problem was that I never felt really sexy and before leaving I felt like i was average nothing special. The first time i went clubbing alone I actually had a sense I was the guy but this time I felt like a loser a skinny, kid that looks like a twig and has nothing for him.

Just recently I got a second job and now I will be making a lot more money per month probably enough to support my nightlife, education and a girl friend. First time ever where I can say i felt financially secure at my young age. Knowing I had money and I was highly educated still made me feel I had no value to other people.

Well Day 6 was simple enough approach 4 people - 2 that you dont know and girls and the other 2 anyone Guy or girl.

Set 1 - The 2 guys I met i told one of them he had a nice shirt and watch both were pretty good and helped me get an idea of what I want to wear to a club.

Set 2 - 2 girls asked for a lighter they were in there late 20s far older then me. I gave them the lighter then told the one girl she had a nice purse yet she totally ignored me. I felt so low at that point i kinda just went back to my friend and talked to him for a good 1 hour to waste time and not seem like a total looser.

Set 3 - My friend i complimented him on his shirt and he appreciated it

Set 4 - these 2 girls asked for a lighter and I told them both a nice compliment the first one she had a nice smile and second one nice nails. Both appreciated it and took it well. I felt really low throughout the night and I probably could have scored them but my energy was so downhill that I kinda f***ed it over by being depressed. I think its not possible to always have a good night and this was one of those times.


Overall I give the night a C- , not great never put energy into it, felt totally ugly inside and outside. Needed a big improvement overall. I feel i can do better like Day 2 where i scored good conversation with people!


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Hey dude, I just wanted to say keep it up! Sounds like you're making progress; we get better with every approach. I'm currently doing the stylelife challenge myself although I'm only on Day 2. Completing the whole thing is going to kick-start each of our games!

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Keep it up pal. I'm on Day One today


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i love seeing people putting effort into this pick up shit. keep it up man, u seem to know ur theory, and all u have to do is keep practicing in order to internalize it.
I won't be able to do the 30 day challenge till fall when school starts, but until then, I'll be following ur progress.


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Before I begin telling you the whole experience of my day 7, I think people should read a brief opinion I have about sarging. Those who believe in Day Game or Night Game as being a better place to pick up women its all really a matter of experience and personality. Although this is the case I will explain briefly why everyone should do night game to see drastic success.

I look at Day Game stuff by people like Sasha and think to myself this is so easy I can do it too and get women to laugh and talk to me making it a lot easier to get a number, plus she can actually talk to me without music so we would have a real conversation. Although true this Game we all play is about numbers. Malls, Supermarkets and Bookstores are great places but shouldn't be something you plan to sarge at, but should come more natural with you just having another purpose to go there with sarging being secondary at mind. I personally recommend EVERYONE who reads this to go night gaming 2-4 times a week. You will see drastic improvement. The ratio of approaches per hour can be as high as 4 an hour with the least being 1 or 2. The mindset of these women are to get picked up and hit on so they will be ready for having small chat.

I still have yet to experience a total bitch who threw me off and although I have had a number of women hit me with the "Bitch Shield" non have said anything so rude yet, unless otherwise I was wasted and came forth as being a total slob with my approach women can tell. Go sober or buzzed (1 Beer) and enjoy the ambiance and scene.

The best advice if you want to get numbers is too hit clubs. Go by yourself if you can't find anyone. I have come to realize going by yourself forces you to meet new people. Clubs has that higher numbers ratio where in a mall a perfect set may take hours to get and you may not wing it the first time.


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I have officially number closed on a Day 7. This came from me using a variety of openers throughout the Day 7 experience which I shall further detail. Well Day 7 had me develop my own openers and to have them be used on 3 women. The goal was to open the set and the rest was freestyle. This ended up being very successful for me as I feel I have pretty much nailed the idea of opening sets. Day 7 took me 2 days to complete which were both at a club so I will detail them seperately.

Club 1 - Day 1

I had arrived with a wing to our local club MyApartment. This club is full of HB 8-10's nothing less. This club/bar perfect to talk to women while enjoying a club scene.

Set 1: Two women one HB 8 other HB 10, age 23-25, I used the Drug Dealer Opener: "Hey does my friend look like a drug dealer", they both laughed and engaged conversation with their response being "NO". The HB 8 took it really well while her HB 10 friend didn't engage at all. I regret not negging her, but I wasn't really into her as she seemed 3-4 years older then me. Her frined more my age I was talking to, my wing was really quiet but he didn't help to much. I had to engage the two set on my own.

I used another opener to continue engaging them as I didnt see them hooked 100%. This time it was the "Girlfriend Broke Up Opener"... "My friend cheated on his girlfriend blah blah blah..." They really into it at this point HB 10 small response and HB 8 full conversation.

I then negged them about being alone, and their style of dress. I then saw conversation dragging at this point so I ended it with "Have a nice day"

Set 2:

Two set again, used the Drug Dealer Opener. Went well, then "Girlfriend and Boyfriend broke up opener" Both opened very well, we then started small talk and they continued to show report about the conversation. We got them hooked really well. My wingman didn't engage again to well, but it seemed he had a very bad day overall. Yet i think if he helped we could have number closed. The set left we got their names and I was happy.

Set 3:

Saw this HB 7-8, liked her style and certain features she had. Totally wanted her she seemed like an ex girlfriend of mine and I felt having her would replace my ex. I opened set with "Drug Dealer" but she Shit tested by saying "What do you think your Russel Peter's with that jacket of yours and joke" I didn't have a reply to that and i just froze i was embarrassed but didnt care overall. Upset by the fact I did want her more then the other girls in the club.

Club 2 - Day 2

Went sarging by myself club dead 30-40 people max. Probably had very few opportunities to sarge. Yet still number closed

Set 4:

I used the jealous girlfriend opener to this set... "MY friends girlfriend saw pictures of the ex and wanted him to burn it" She took it well and opened. I got IOI's right away from her, asked my age, told me she liked my style. I ended up negging her and telling her we wouldn't get along since i dated nice girls like her... told her she can have the 13 cats , but i get the flat screen tv. She laughed then her sister came and stole her from me, she told me to meet her inside. I told her I would later in the night.

I then kept an eye on her and waited till she went out for a smoke to approach. I opened her with a neg, then went to small talk. I felt conversation dieing and i knew i could number close her so I used the 5 lies game... ask her to lie to 5 questions if she does then you buy her a drink if she doesn't then buys you one. She lost and she laughed really hard. Said it was a nice game, offered me a drink but when she was ordering it i told her its okay. I then number closed. I regret one thing not sticking around after the number close. She wanted me to hug her so I did then I left.

I felt really good at this point and opened more sets.

Set 5:

These two HB 7's one had 2 kids and the other mad slutty. She was into me and I used the same routines. I negged her about her nails, and attitude she totally angry at this point. I switched it with telling her she had a nice smile, told her stories and then number closed her. She was okay looking but not my type of girl to date.

Brief Opinion of the Night:

What I learned was that you need to stack 2-3 openers. Everyone should learn 4-5 openers by heart and use them in a row. Women who interact to openers will grow fond of you. Also follow up inbetween by multiple threading with the openers stories. For example jealous girlfriend photo routine thread with a neg about a smile and then a story about your friend who went through plastic surgery. They will respond better and she will feel connected.

Second thing I learned clothing. Wear something nice earings, watch, shirt something flashy. Nothing big but really invest 200-300$ if needed on clothing to wear everyweek. Women notice this.

I will continue field reporting my stuff hope you all enjoy. Please follow me and support my post. Reply with anything you have meaning routines, opinions, stories about your sarges and related experiences. I want this thread to be a sticky so people can see this stuff works!


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