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Hey guys,

I got in the game after my wing Valentyn recommended me the book, or as we could probably call it by now, the Holy Grail of pick-up "The Game" by Neil Strauss.

As I was reading, I couldn't believe that there was actually a secret community of pick-up artists actually training and learning techniques to pick-up women. And just like all of you guys, it immediately caught my attention and it pretty much became my main priority right now.

So, I just turned 19 years old about two weeks ago and I live in Montreal. I never had problems with women as many girls were attracted to me and I am aware that girls check me out regularly. I already number-closed, kiss-closed girls and even fuck-closed a girl. The only problem is that I feel that whenever a girl was attracted to me it wasn't because of my skill with women but mostly because of my looks and the fact that I'm an overall nice guy.

Also, my biggest issue in pick-up is AA (approach anxiety). I don't know why but whenever I see a hot girl and want to approach, I just freeze and can't get myself to go talk to her and it's really frustrating. So I can definitely say that AA is the number one issue for me to overcome in pick-up. I want to be able to follow Mystery's three-second rule EVERY TIME I want to approach a set.

I got in the game because I want to ultimately become an MPUA and actually be able to go in a bar and hook-up with any girl that I desire. In order to do that, I am willing to learn everything that is useful about pick-up and I am going out every week in order to constantly improve my game. I already started learning game and watching all the useful videos out there. I highly recommend to all of you guys to visit the21convention site and watch the videos of MPUAs like DJ Fuji, AFC Adam, Gambler and others if you haven't allready. I have learned so much watching those videos so I highly recommend them.

My wingmen (Valentyn, T_Rex) and I have officially started taking pick-up seriously and going sarging about 1 month and a half ago. Since then, we have gone out every week and for each night that I've gone out, I've always written a field report that you can find down below.

In this journal, I will be able to keep track of my progress and see my improvements and mistakes for each night that we go out. My wingmen and I have a big road ahead of us and I am willing to do whatever it takes in order for one day to become an MPUA as I dream that in the future I'll be able to teach others like myself the secrets of pick-up.

In order to improve myself, I also really need YOU guys. PLEASE do not hesitate to post any type of constructive comments after reading my field reports. Any comment, advice, tip etc. will be highly appreciated.
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Good luck tomorrow in your sarge day!!! Don't forget to put specific goals before each night! Peace out!

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Good luck tomorrow in your sarge day!!! Don't forget to put specific goals before each night! Peace out!
Thank you and good luck to you as well :).

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August 7th 2011

Place: Bar "Chez Serge"
Time: 12am - 2am
Members: Gamon, Valentyn and T_Rex

We drove to the bar. There were sets everywhere and lots of people and I just had a feeling that it was going to be a good night. I had just watched DJ Fuji's speech and I was really pumped :P.

We went in and for the first time I didn't have much fear of approach or rejection. Valentyn and I went for an approach (T_Rex wasn't ready yet). We were sitting at a small table and we got up and moved to sit at the bar. We kept on talking and made sure that we looked like we were having fun in order to DHV. There was this cute 8.5 on my left and I told Valentyn that I'm going to open her. He told me to use the tattoo opener by asking her what she tought about the tattoo that I wanted to get (Mystery method indirect approach). I don't know why but in that moment I really thought that it wouldn't work so I just told him fuck it, I'm just gonna ask her if it costs anything to ride the electric bull in the bar and then take it from there. Valentyn kept telling me that it was a wrong idea and that I should stick to Mystery Method and use the opinion opener but I don't know for what reason I still thought that my opener was better.

So I locked in at the bar right next to the target and over the shoulder I slightly touched her and opened:

G: Excuse me, do you know if it's free to ride that bull over there?
HB: (*akwardly*)...Heu...I don't know (*and she leaves*)

My friend told me that I should've used what Mystery said. He was right because a little time later, it was his turn to approach so I came along with him in order to wing him. There was this cute 7.5 french girl sitting close to the bar.
-He did the "girlfriend kissing another girl" opener and it worked flawlessly. While she was answering us, I could actually picture the girls from The Pick-Up Artist TV Show answering to an opinion opener that those guys were doing. It worked great. At the end of the night, SHE even came to get his number out of nowhere! #CLOSE for my man Valentyn.

At that point, I understood that Mystery Method REALLY worked!
Shortly after,hea pproached another girl at the bar and it went pretty well. I watched the whole thing. He then ejected because he wasn't feeling the chick. She was like a 5/10. He just went in for the skill ;).

Finally, before we left, Timmy felt like approaching so he opened a 3 set with the cheating girlfriend opener (I was winging him). We started talking to the girls and they were genuinly interested in us. We then left... happy that we finally broke the ice and approached. We've now pushed our comfort zone...and we felt the growth :). And I must tell you, it's such a GREAT feeling!

PROS:
- We've all approached.
- The girls were genuinly interested
- Great openers
- Valentyn #CLOSE

THINGS TO IMPROVE:
- T_Rex and I were sometimes leaning in the 3-set.
- I have to prepare and memorize openers before going to a bar.
- SMILE on the approach! GOD. DAMN. IT.!!! SMILE



Please note: We have gone out about 2 or 3 times before this night and we haven't done ANYTHING so this is the first night that we've actually pushed ourselves.

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August 11th 2011

The freeze-out!

Place: Fuzzy Night Club
Time: 12:30am - 2:45am
Members: Gamon, T_Rex, Valentyn and Eric


The title pretty much says it all. It wasn't a good night for me.
The night we went to this club was the same night that Pauly D from "Jersey Shore" came to "1234" night club in Montreal as well as Britney Spears who was having a show at the Bell Centre so we were a bit skeptical about the amount of people (girls) that there would be at Fuzzy night club.

But we were surprized as we saw the huge line outside. I guess NOTHING can stop guys to chase chicks :P. So, after talking to some friendly indians while waiting, we finally got inside. The place was really crowded and man it was a really nice night club, it was huge! Everybody was dancing and there were plenty of HBs to approach.

I went inside with great energy, smile and body language. T_Rex was already approaching a 2-set but was somehow cockblocked by his target's friend. He then practiced Gambler's forcing IOIs by using it on a girl who had a positive response but he didn't open because the set left (they probably went dancing). While he did this, I couldn't do any approaches... it was so frustrating!! I was so disappointed with myself and felt like I had no balls. Everytime I wanted to approach I just froze and I couldn't explain why... I hate that feeling... If only I could get rid of it completely.
AA got to me...There were sets everywhere but I couldn't do it. I had fallen into the "what if...?" fear of rejection zone. It was so bad.
T_Rex was trying, Valentn was trying and I wasn't able to do anything, I was so angry with myself! I just wanted to leave...

My problem is that I ask myself to many questions! I just didn't know how to open in such a loud environnement. Loud Clubs aren't the place where you can use opinion openers or indirect questions (Mystery Method) as we did in the bar so I was just lost.

I should've used Gambler's method by forcing IOIs and then opening by simply saying: "Hey, what's your name?".

We danced a bit and then finally left.

PROS:
- T_Rex danced with a girl for a while.
- Valentyn tried to dance with a girl but was cockblocked by her stupid bitch friend who pulled her away. Bitches will be bitches.

THINGS TO IMPROVE:
- APPROACH by using Gambler's method!
- You go in for the skill ONLY!!! You give ABSOLUTELY NO SHIT ABOUT THE GIRL!!!!
- NOT approaching is NOT AN OPTION!

Ps. By the end of the night, I noticed some AMOGs with no game kiss-closing hot babes and it frustrated me because I know for sure that I can be so much better then them...

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August 13th 2011

Place: Bar "Chez Serge"
Time: 12am - 2:30am
Members: Gamon, Valentyn, T_Rex and our friend Serge

Owning the night!!
*My 1st Number Close!* :P

Oh man...where do I start? So we went to that bar again. Once more, there were sets all over the place and there was such a great energy in the bar. So we went to the bar and got some shots. We were nicely locked in at the bar. Overall we looked fun. We were talking, smiling, laughing etc. A short while after, these 3 girls come close to us and got up on the bar counter to dance (there's a stripper pole on the bar counter). We even helped them to get up there :P. Valentyn and I noticed that there was this cute libanese girl standing right in front of us. She was cheering her friends who were dancing on the bar counter :P. What a perfect opportunity to open :). Valentyn opened her with a direct opener: "Why aren't you dancing with them you horny slut :)?". No but really he asked her " Why aren't you dancing with them? :)". I helped him a bit then I let him continue as I started talking to T_Rex. While Valentyn was gaming, I told T_Rex that we should approach. I was so pumped :P.

There was this cute 2-set on the other side of the bar (Redhead 7/10 and Brunette 8/10).
T_Rex and I went there and I opened them with the "Cheating Girlfriend" opener.
-1st Mistake- I opened them exactly at the moment when they were making a toast with shots. I haven't noticed.
They weren't really interested and we weren't getting IOIs but at least they answered us. We then ejected by saying that we had to go back to our friends. To be honest, they were weird and seemed anti-social.

We went back to Valentyn and he told us that it went pretty well with the libanese girl and that she went outside with her friends.

So once again we sat at the bar, locked in and looked for other sets to approach.
A little while after, we noticed this really hot 3-set standing right next to us. They were really beautiful girls, at the very least 8.5/10. They were giving us big time proximity for a while and then THEY opened us. They asked us "Hey guys, where are you from?" (fyi: Valentyn and I are Romanian and T_Rex is from Liban). We immediatly went for it and started talking to the girls. I instantly isolated one of them and I tried the Neil Strauss "5 questions game". I won :P and I had positive IOIs from her :). I also kino-escalated very well. I was always touching her waist or shoulder when I was talking to her. While I was doing this, Valentyn and T_Rex were doing the best friends test on the other 2 HBs and from what I heard and saw, they were really impressed. Then my girl asked me to ride the electric bull and I went for it.

After riding the electric bull, I noticed that T_Rex and Valentyn were gone so I told the girls that I'm gonna go get them. I went outside to get them but I found them sitting next to the libanese girl that Valentyn was gaming earlier. So I went to sit next to them :P.
I then noticed that right next to me, there was this cute egyptian girl, 7.5/10. She was one of the friends who were dancing on that stripper pole on the bar counter earlier :).

So I got in a conversation with her. As we were talking, I noticed her getting more and more attracted to me. She then proposed us (Serge and I) to smoke some weed :P. I was down for it but we didn't have any rolling paper so she asked me to come buy some
at the closest convenience store with her :).

When we got to the store, she started giving me some strong compliment IOIs. I was wearing a pair of black diamond style earings and she told me: "I just noticed your earrings, they go really well on you :)".
And then, after I learned that she was 21 years old, I told her that I'm gonna be 19 in a month. She responded with: "You look older.." She said that like she meant "You're old enough for me to receive your delightful cock... ;)".
We then went back to the bar. On our way back to the bar, I qualified to the girl by saying "God, usually beautiful girls are bitchy. I wish all beautiful girls in a bar were as nice as you."

When we finally got back, her friends and her wanted to go to McDonalds and she kept insisting that I come to her (IOI). She even wanted to remain with me and let her friends go. But I told her to go along and that my friends and I were going to meet them at McDonalds. Immediatly after I said that she asked me for my phone number. #CLOSE :P.

She said: "Oh give me your phone number! Just in case! :)"
So we exchanged phone numbers and then separated.

*NOTE* Before going to the drug store, I went back in the bar to look for the HOT 3-set that we were gaming earlier but I couldn't find them. We've waited to long to come back to them so they left... I wanted to find them in order for me and my boys to number close their sweet asses because we really had them on a plate for us and unfortunately, we litteraly lost the opportunity.
*NOTE*

We then decided not to go to McDonalds because it was really late. The girl actually called me (twice!) to know if I was coming but I just made up an excuse and decided to see her some other time.

August 20th UPDATE: She actually texted me back and invited me twice to see her but I haven't had the time. I'm planning to see her next week :).

UPDATE #2: I changed my phone and lost her number -__-



PROS:
- MY 1ST NUMBER CLOSE!! on a 21 yrs old girl!!! :P
- 2 Sets approached
- 3 Set of HBs that opened US
- Used the "5 questions game"
- I kino escalated very well
- I qualified to the Egyptian girl

THINGS TO IMPROVE:
- Should've come back earlier to the HB 3-set to number-close.

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Omg dude! It sucks that you lost her phone number! She was such a slut ass bitch that chick! Really horny and down for some macaroni! You could'v fucked closed her in the ass my boy.. but not a problem.. there are way too many girls out there! ;)

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Hey man.. what the fuck has happened to you?? You post 2 field reports and thats it?? Dont forget if you want succes you have to commit to this lifestyle! Let's go I want to see you put the FR about that HB you picked up while you were working!

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Ok so after a relatively long pause from pick-up, I got my personal problems and shit fixed and decided to get back to the community, and this time is for good. No more excuses, no more wasting time, it's time to own this part of my life. I still feel like I own an explanation for why I got out of this for a while.
Well let me take you back about 3-4 months ago. Things were going pretty well. I was going out with my wings Valentyn and T_Rex (look them up) a lot. We were hitting the clubs and the bars together and we were all making progress. I started getting my first number closes, first dates, thing were starting to come together. I was feeling great.
Long story short, with my new personality and the new me I have also expanded my friends circle. I was regularly hanging out with beautiful women and respected guys. Now that's when it all started to go down... I have met this beautiful serbian girl. She was my perfect type, beautiful body, great personality and a smile that made your jaw drop. Things clicked between us almost instantaniously. She was so happy when she was seeing me and we were always hanging together. So I started to use some cocky-funny with her (btw my style isn't all scripted material. I'm mostly a natural using a lot of cocky funny). Things were going great. The guys starting to ask me if something was going on between us because she was giving me so many IOI's, everybody was noticing. Long story short again, I thought I had her on a plate and I waiting for the perfect moment to qualify. Before I had my chance, one of my friends fucked everything up for me and he told her that I was interested in her and of course for her I looked like a non-confident guy with no balls to tell her what's up.
Since then, things pretty much got fucked up for me.
I took this so hard. It hurt like hell. I could really see myself with this girl and now it was all wasted. Now I realise that it wasn't entirely my faut for not having qualified faster but mostly because my friend decided to to this for me without talking to me first. Of course he thought he was doing me some good but he is mostly an AFC. He doesn't know anything about game. Back then I haven't really realised these errors. I just took it like: "I learned all this game shit and when I try it on a girl I really want it's whortless". So I lost faith in the community, thinking it's just bullshit.
Now that I got my shit together and analysed what really happened, I see this from whole different perspective and I realised that I'm still very new at this and I can't expect to have results overnight . I just have to constantly improve myself. Pickup is a journey and not something that happens over night like I said.

Now I feel better then ever and I'm ready to continue my journey.
This week my new wing (hypnötik) and I will start the Neil Strauss 30 day challenge and we will both put all of our heart into these challenges. After every challenge, I will post a report on this forum.
Can't wait to start!

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It's great that you came back..however I have to make a comment on this..
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Now I realise that it wasn't entirely my faut for not having qualified faster but mostly because my friend decided to to this for me without talking to me first. Of course he thought he was doing me some good but he is mostly an AFC. He doesn't know anything about game.
It's your fault for not being a man, grab your balls and tell that girl you think she's amazing and fucking hot. You didn't need any qualification..she was giving IOI's and things were clicking between you two. Qualification is done to solidy attraction. You said the girl was attracted so forget that. Even if your friend said to her that you want to have sex with her..you can get away with anything. 3 Weeks ago it took me 7 rejection kisses to a girl till I was able to kiss her. What was the secret?? My response to her "rejection" was that I didn't give a fuck and because I knew she was attracted to me..I kept pushing forward. It's always your response that matters, not what you say or what you do.It's your response to that situation that makes you win the girl or not. Are you seeking her approval or simply dont give a fuck? Your friend did nothing wrong, your situatian wasn't worse than before but you let your emotions get in the way and let fear take control over your situation. You did not express cues of a dominant man and that made you lose the girl. For dominance and how to act like a true man read "The Attraction Code" by Vin Di Carlo

I just want to remember you one thing. AA will never go away. If you focus on removing this feeling, guess what it will never go away. The only way to learn how to manage is to simply act upon the feeling. Whenever a state friction (anxiety) causes you to not make action, the only cure is to focus your intention and simply act. Stop being a pussy, grab one ball in each of your hands and say whatever the fuck you want..I sarged with guys who close girls by opening with: "Where's my chicken?" to "Hey girl you look like a starfish". In time and experience you will learn how to control your anxiety, but that feeling will not go away

If you need any help at all I'm always here..it's been almost 8 months since I do this every week and I know my stuff pretty well. I'm also hanging out with guys from "The Game" by Neil Strauss so feel free to ask any questions man you know I'm here for you.

Take care and good luck in field!

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It's great that you came back..however I have to make a comment on this..
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Now I realise that it wasn't entirely my faut for not having qualified faster but mostly because my friend decided to to this for me without talking to me first. Of course he thought he was doing me some good but he is mostly an AFC. He doesn't know anything about game.
It's your fault for not being a man, grab your balls and tell that girl you think she's amazing and fucking hot. You didn't need any qualification..she was giving IOI's and things were clicking between you two. Qualification is done to solidy attraction. You said the girl was attracted so forget that. Even if your friend said to her that you want to have sex with her..you can get away with anything. 3 Weeks ago it took me 7 rejection kisses to a girl till I was able to kiss her. What was the secret?? My response to her "rejection" was that I didn't give a fuck and because I knew she was attracted to me..I kept pushing forward. It's always your response that matters, not what you say or what you do.It's your response to that situation that makes you win the girl or not. Are you seeking her approval or simply dont give a fuck? Your friend did nothing wrong, your situatian wasn't worse than before but you let your emotions get in the way and let fear take control over your situation. You did not express cues of a dominant man and that made you lose the girl. For dominance and how to act like a true man read "The Attraction Code" by Vin Di Carlo

I just want to remember you one thing. AA will never go away. If you focus on removing this feeling, guess what it will never go away. The only way to learn how to manage is to simply act upon the feeling. Whenever a state friction (anxiety) causes you to not make action, the only cure is to focus your intention and simply act. Stop being a pussy, grab one ball in each of your hands and say whatever the fuck you want..I sarged with guys who close girls by opening with: "Where's my chicken?" to "Hey girl you look like a starfish". In time and experience you will learn how to control your anxiety, but that feeling will not go away
Hey man, I appreciate the help. It's true that I let my emotions take control and I didn't tell her what's up. I waited and spent to much time and that caused me losing the girl. But the fact that my friend told her before I did made it even worse for me because I was actually planning to tell her what's up.
I suppose that I lacked experience and I left my emotions take control. The thing is that I actually got attached to this girl and it was hard for me to just say "she's only a girl, I don't care about her response" you know what I mean? At that point I had feelings for her and her response HAD to be yes, that's why my emotions came in. I couldn't accept a no from her. In conclusion, I had a one-itis. But I now learned from my mistake and won't let my emotions come into play again.

Also, I know for a fact that nobody can erase AA, not Mystery, Style, DJ Fuji or any PUA out there but I have trouble understanding how to shift this emotion (anxiety) towards actually making a move and approaching a hot babe. Anxiety is the contrary of actually wanting to approach so if you have any tips or mindsets or whatever on how to do this I would really appreciate it ;).

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Hey man, I appreciate the help. It's true that I let my emotions take control and I didn't tell her what's up. I waited and spent to much time and that caused me losing the girl. But the fact that my friend told her before I did made it even worse for me because I was actually planning to tell her what's up.
I suppose that I lacked experience and I left my emotions take control. The thing is that I actually got attached to this girl and it was hard for me to just say "she's only a girl, I don't care about her response" you know what I mean? At that point I had feelings for her and her response HAD to be yes, that's why my emotions came in. I couldn't accept a no from her. In conclusion, I had a one-itis. But I now learned from my mistake and won't let my emotions come into play again.
Don't beat yourself up. This is more than normal and we all had it once at least in our lives. This is actually a good thing because it woke you up to reality. You need these experiences (kind of like a slap in the face) to make you suddenly realize that things need to change.

For the anxiety part..we'll actually have to meet and I'll have to give you some "lessons". It's hard to understand this by reading and the best way is to actually show you and explaining it to you live. I also have great exercises for learning how to control AA so any time you want I can definately increase your chances in learning faster. Tell me if you're interested and take care!

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Hey man, I appreciate the help. It's true that I let my emotions take control and I didn't tell her what's up. I waited and spent to much time and that caused me losing the girl. But the fact that my friend told her before I did made it even worse for me because I was actually planning to tell her what's up.
I suppose that I lacked experience and I left my emotions take control. The thing is that I actually got attached to this girl and it was hard for me to just say "she's only a girl, I don't care about her response" you know what I mean? At that point I had feelings for her and her response HAD to be yes, that's why my emotions came in. I couldn't accept a no from her. In conclusion, I had a one-itis. But I now learned from my mistake and won't let my emotions come into play again.
Don't beat yourself up. This is more than normal and we all had it once at least in our lives. This is actually a good thing because it woke you up to reality. You need these experiences (kind of like a slap in the face) to make you suddenly realize that things need to change.

For the anxiety part..we'll actually have to meet and I'll have to give you some "lessons". It's hard to understand this by reading and the best way is to actually show you and explaining it to you live. I also have great exercises for learning how to control AA so any time you want I can definately increase your chances in learning faster. Tell me if you're interested and take care!
Yeah I guess we need to fall in order to get back stronger and better then before. Like the saying goes, life is not about how hard you hit but about how hard you get hit and keep moving forward, that's how winning is done.
Anyway, yes it would be great to meet for the AA part. I'm free on sunday but it's Easter so I'm not sure you will be able to go out. If not, I'm free anyday next week except for friday, saturday or sunday because I work.
See ya!

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decided to get back to the community, and this time is for good. No more excuses, no more wasting time, it's time to own this part of my life
Where's this dedication you've been talking about? I don't see one field report in 9 days..

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I decided not to post everything here.
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