Hi everyone,

I am looking for your advice/suggestion on what I should do next.
I've been approaching girls at my campus. I have known PUA for a about two years or such, but I never really started gaming until mid last year. There was this (HB 6.5) who was giving solid IOIs at my library and I decided to go up to her and say hello. I just added her on facebook and that was it as I discovered she was in relationship and has a daughter. We crossed each other again in library this year, later that day we chatted on facebook and set up a date (later in the week). It was my first ever date. We had a GREAT time. I KINOed her quite a lot. And she was enjoying it. But it's been a week since and I have only sent text ("what's up?") after a couple of days. I am not sure whether I'd chase her because she is not my type. She would agree with me on everything.

There is this HB 8 I talked up to two days ago. I was reading daniel's journal. And some one posted an opener of going up to a cutest chick and telling her you look adorable and you wanting to introduce yourself. I took the challenge and did that with two girls (both of HB 8 -). Both of them gave me their numbers.

The interaction with HB 8 (let say Piercing Chick) was dry. We were on the couches at end of the hallway. As I was leaving, I just decided to go for it and I got her number. I texted the next day. "hey this is AFC-Bat, just wanted to make sure I got your number right." No response, so I sent her another message in the evening, "Hey, girl with six piercings!" No reply again. So this morning, I decided to send a text for the last time and I texted her saying I need your opinion on piercing. She texted me back saying Hey man what's going on. Said she lost her charger and asks me what type of piercing I am thinking of getting.

honestly, I am not going to get piercing. But, how should I play texting game?
Btw, I learned she's in relationship from her facebook. (haven't added, and 'm not stalking )

Last week, I decided to do another direct approach and number closed this girl. I will name her pink shirt 'cause
I made jokes about her liking pink colour. The number she game came out to be wrong number (probably typo?). I met her again (been a week). I talked up to her. She was giving IOIs (playing with hair and at one point I said I have run out of things to say and she striked up conversation. I know that was an AFC But I said it in the alpha way.). As I was leaving, I asked her we should grab coffee sometime and this is where she dropped a bomb. LOL She tells me she KINDA has a boyfriend. I played it cool and asked what do you do for fun? Turns out, he is 2/3 hours away and do not hang out as much. The goodbye part was weak, I said nice talking to you and she didn't say anything. But during conversation, I got her number right and got her to text me so we have numbers.

I am really uncertain how to play. From my experience many of the cute chicks are already occupied. LOL
In the morning, I talked up to this other girl. She was giving me major IOIs asks me my name twice. I feel like she wants to know more about me. But, she too dropped a bomb, says "I kinda have boyfriend." I played it cool and didn't do number or facebook close. ((Btw, I have done doznes of approaches and a couple of number close. But none of them were fruitful). Just wanted to put for your information.


This is long, but thanks for your patience and I appreciate your inputs. =)

Honestly I don't think the false number was a mistake based on your second story of pink shirt. She probably felt uncomfortable giving you the number in the first place, but why not use a boyfriend destroyer?? say something like "Who said anything about us dating?? (with a sly grin at the end)" or "I have a gold fish..." and when she looks at you funny say "oh, I thought we were talking about shit that doesn't matter" girls will throw that last shit test at you to see if your alpha enough to still go after it. Because they want to give it to you, they just need your permission to.

If I straight off send such a text, she might not reply (and I might not see her until next Thursday). When should I send a text message (so as not to seem needy)? It's been a day since I last saw her.
I would like to talk to her through text and throw that line in the conversation. I'm afraid she may not reply altogether(?). I don't know how to go about this.

Today would be a good time. I have found that whole "two day rule" thing to really kill your chances. Shoot her a text. Have a convo to start that isn't too much hitting on her but if there is a chance to flirt and get her more interested throw a comment in there and let her play with it. almost like a cat and a ball of yarn. See where she takes it. If she flirts back you can continue to flirt back. if she doesn't really, take a step back from that aspect and just keep talking to her. Texting is tricky because you don't want to fall into that friend zone. Honestly the more you get her interested, and flirting the more she will be like "what bf???". And if you really want to hit it out of the park, this is what i do that gets an f-close just about every time. text her for a little while, if she's continually talking to you for a few hours, i would call her tonight. Have a conversation because i find that hearing a persons voice is very personable. Now here's where it gets ballsy if you can do it. Eventually you will get her so interested that the topic of sexual things can come up. It could be as easy as you asking her a question like "Can i ask you a serious question??...you don't have to answer it if you don't want to it's ok,...(and maybe even throw in something like...well never mind...and if she says no go ahead...then you have done every thing right up to this point...but kinda play coy a little ya know??)....do you ever masturbate?"...she says yea blah blah blah. And she might ask you...say "yea quite a bit.....would it be weird if i said i have done it sometimes thinking about you??" and then she usually 99% of the time if done right will say "oh yea what have you thought about??" and then i usually make up some fantasy right on the spot about her and go into detail. Pretty much having phone sex with her. Pay attention to your tone of voice, sound softer at times during it, and slow down your speech when you want whatever you are saying to....really...sink....in. See what i did?? kind of like that. It plants those seeds in her mind and she will think of you like that from now, and women love that guys fantasize about them. It makes them feel special in a way and lets them know your sexually interested. You don't have to use that routine. Somewhere during your conversation mention you have a very vivid imagination, an she usually goes "oh yea, prove it" or something along those lines and then you go into it. Not kidding the last chick i did this to had a bf, from the number close to three days later i f-closed her. Let me know how it goes, gl

I sent her message. I tried to make small talk about what we talked about yesterday. It was generally about tshirt colours, she was wearing pink tshirt on both occasion we met. So, I negged her a bit on that. Other than that, I talked about what sports she plays, some jokes on assignments she was doing and her eye glasses. The rest conversation I mentioned in previous reply.


ME: Hey {her name}
HER: Who is this
ME: guess
HER: umm I have no idea
Me: Lol hint: someone who like blue colour.
HER: What
HER: who is this
ME: My name

ME: you know what, I looked at my wardrobe yesterday and found one red tshit. I thought I had none. LOL [ some 7-8 minutes later]

After I told her my name, she stopped. But She definitely knew(unless she deleted me from phonebook?)it was me because I had entered my name and number in her phone yesterday.

2+2 isn't equalling 4 right now. First off I think you got stuck on your "opener" in some case, she is probably bored with the t shirt conversation, stack forward. You need to find a hook point and i think you have missed it. Yes you have got enough to get the number and you small talked yesterday. Ever been to a club and you see a girl and all you did was say hey, whats your name, where you from? how old are you? its fluffing and it gets no where. now lets say you walk up to that same girl and say "do you believe in spells???" she looks confused because your not hitting on her, and then you say "lets see, pick a number between one a ten" and you pick her number. THEN YOU BECOME INTERESTING. because your not like every other guy that walked up to her and she will remember you as the "guy who could read her mind". From the sounds of it, there is too much fluffing and not enough attraction. She knew who you were unless she is the dumbest girl on earth, and it probably bores her with the fluffing. It's just another guy....make since?

RE: the piercing gal...this is too easy!

Tell her the piercing you want to get is very personal and you need her to take your question very seriously. Bait her like that. Keep saying that what you are about to reveal is heavy and you want a very in depth and well thought out reply from her. It's really important to you. Yadda yadda.

Okay, so now she's on the edge of her seat, well baited. Give her something juicy.

Tell her you're thinking of having your pecker pierced! But what you want to know is should you do the Prince Albert or the apadravya.

Some background, the Prince Albert is pretty safe and mundane (as far as penis piercings go). The apadravya could render you soft for life and you need to sit down to pee while it heals but apparently it enhances your sexual experience and for a lot of women too! You need to know this in case she's not quite sure what you're talking about and so that you can have some knowledgeable discourse with her. The sexual tension should build from there. Good luck!

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I have a feeling I maybe coming as just another guy.
I shot a message asking if she believes in spell. She replied immediately (HAHA What? uhmm.. No).
I responded with "No? You will make Harry Potter cry." after five mins, but she didn't respond. So I shot her another message in 15 mins saying she radiates great positive energy and I had felt it. I had genuinely felt it, I didn't make it up.
Then she responded with "thanks that is very nice but like I said I have a boyfriend I'm sorry."

How long should I wait before responding to text? She did not respond to last message for ~ 20 mins. Why does she say sorry? I will throw boyfriend destroyer and keep keep you posted.

I shot her similar message.
I have a feeling she is busy and terrible at texting. For now, I will wait for her to respond.

conversation with Girl B
Her: "thanks that is very nice but like I said I have a boyfriend I'm sorry."
Me: I have a goldfish. (one hour later).
Her: Yo stop texting her she's not interested. (~40 mins later.)

What am I supposed to do? According to her, he lives 2/3 hours away in a different city. I think this is clear sign I should not text her(?). I'm empty minded. She had not been very confident about her boyfriend and didn't mention the first time she gave me her number. I have experienced rejection from girls who have boyfriend and they clearly didn't give me their number.
I am the prize.
Should I reply her at all? I don't think saying "who said we were dating?" would be wise. I don't know. (confused). I am failing somewhere, I'd very much appreciate your inputs.

look don't sweat it, sometimes the best thing is to try and clear your mind. we all play this game and analyze everything and sometimes we fall victim to over analysis. I think honestly at this point the texting game is dead and she may be a dead set. sucks, because she probably is beautiful. But I think before texting her again you need to be real with yourself and with her. something i might say is "look, i know some of the stuff i say may be off the wall, and i know you probably get 100 guys texting you a day, and who am i?? i'm not expecting anything, and so what you have a boyfriend...it's obvious to me that your curious (kinda cold read her a little and let her know you pay attention), not saying interested but curious. And i'm not gonna lie i'm curious too...don't beat yourself up about it. But i would hate it more if i didn't explore it. (and then come up with something that ties that all together and kind of makes her feel like your leaving). I don't care what you do, this is just what i think, take it for what its worth."...see its like walking away (and it might be) but you preserved your alpha image in her, and she will probably text you back pretty quick. because she is the type of girl that doesn't, or really can't let anything go, especially if she's curious, and if she lets it go so what?? then you know where you stood while preserving your image. sometimes you have to show your real colors sometime to get her reeled in like you want, and thats ok. noones a fortress just let it fly, and see where it lands. just know you preserved your image in her eyes, and sometimes that's the best thing because whenever you see her again. You will be the one that got away, the one that could walk away and it didn't bother you.

I sent her this as per the suggestion:
"Look, I know u probably get 100 guys texting you a a day, and who am I? I am not expecting anything and so what you have a bf. It's obvious to me that ur curious and I won't lie I'm curious too, don't beat ur self about it. But I'd hate it more if If I didn't explore it. Anyway, it was nice talking to you. I don't care what you do, this is what I think."

She hasn't replied and I have absolute no exception she would.
Second, the piercing chick hasn't replied back to me (she has a bf too).
Looks like both sets are dead. At least I feel alpha though.

I have a question. How do I know I'm not feeding my ego by pretending/living alpha? Are they similar in any way? I don't want to unconsciously feed my ego.