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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:21 pm 
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This is the first night I've gone out trying to sarge using night game. I went out Saturday night about 9:00 pm. I had scheduled a meeting with a lesbian friend, who brought 2 girls with her (HB6 and HB 7.5). I targeted the more attractive of the two friends and we talked and had positive interaction for about 2 hours. We danced, drank, and had good conversation during that time. We went to another bar on the strip where they all disappeared. It was very sudden though; they all went to the bathroom and just never came back. I got a text about 20 minutes later that said they had bounced because HB6 got sick from too much drinking. Never got the # close or k-close on HB 7.5.

** Sticking points-

Physical escalation- I found it difficult to gauge when, where on her body, and how to go kino. I'm still new to the PUA community, so it was difficult for me to see IOI's. Physical escalation is definitely a sticking point, not because of anxiety, but because I want it to be smooth and I'm not sure how to transition from a friendly interaction to a more physical, seductive one.

Verbal interaction- After the 2 hours of interaction, I simply went blank in my mind and we just didn't talk or interact at all and sat around. Had I verbally kept her engaged, along with physical escalation, I would have definitely gotten a # close at the least.

IOI recognition- I was not able to identify many IOI's during the interactions. I would get an unnecessary touch on my arm, or a loud laugh from something I said that was not that funny, but apart from those obvious IOI's, I was not able to recognize any more.

Raising Value- I was not sure if my value was raised or not in certain bars, because the bars were literally packed full of people where it was difficult to even move. It is hard to tell whether many people saw my interactions with various sets or not. Apart from that, I'm not sure about how to raise my value in the venue.

After they left, I walked between bars on the strip. I had several interactions with various sets. They were all positive, but I still found myself not escalating physically. The conversation was there, the eye contact was there, I had control of the group, I had the target watching my every move and hanging on to my every word, and then I simply didn't know what to do, so I excused myself from the group, "Hey, nice meeting all of you."

**Positive point-
I discovered I have no anxiety about approaching and opening, because I did it on dozens of occasions tonight and I was successful in gaining positive interaction, and being the center of the group's attention for as long as I was engaged with them.

Feedback is appreciated, especially on how to improve kino tactics and physical escalation.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:38 pm 
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Ive noticed that hanging out with a bunch of girls and trying to attract one is normally a poor plan over a prolonged period, especially without a wing and when they have their own gameplan. You have the least familiarity and thus, likely the lowest social value in the group. Guys with very good game may disagree but for guys below the expert level this is a bad scenario. Ive found that ive lost initial attraction, and my chances, by hanging in set too long where I don't have positional power.

When the girls went to the bathroom the convo probably went something like this "do either of you like rugged?" "umm... he seems nice but whatever" "ok lets bail and meet some other guys."

I would have attempted to isolate the target, and if that wouldn't work, get her number at the peak of attraction and leave.


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