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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:11 pm 
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Hi all,

First post here, just starting out. Would love any advice.

Tonight, found a 7 who was out with a friend and that friends boyfriend. Keeping to the 3 second rule I joined that table with my mate (wingman in training) for a solid 40 seco ds before i made my approach. She was virtually alone.

Before my approach she had swiftly pushed away a drunk AF, looked at me and rolled my eyes - so my opener ended up being.

PUA "Wow, you have got some interesting friends!" (about guy she pushed away)
TARGET: "haha, they arent my friends"
PUA: (smiles) "Is that an accent I hear?"

Its obviously not easy to keep your stack in mind and stay on game, made it harder because of her British accent - Instant +1 in my world.

PUA: "Youre a long way from home! What part are you from?"
TARGET: "From Manchester."
PUA: "Ahh, so you must be one of those United scalliwags?"
TARGET: "No, I am into horse riding".
PUA: "Oh...... (bluntly)..... So that makes you a scalliwag with money?"
TARGET: "haha I guess so"
[Begin planned stack, went for the cologne opener]
PUA: "So listen, my ex girlfriend has left a heap of colognes at my house so I thought I would work out which is better, I need your help"
TARGET: "Ok....?"
PUA: "Ive put one one each wrist so I need you to smell each one and tell me which one is better"
[Smells and chooses]
PUA: "Hrmm, thats interesting.... Because every other person I ask says this (the other) one"

[Target Shrugs, feel like hard to get]


PUA: "But how can I trust you?"
[Shrugs again]
PUA: "Well my point is I dont know if i can trust any girl in here.... Its quite obvious that girls are Sexual Predators!"
[Target listens with interest]
PUA: "Well look, How many guys in here can throw on high heels, push up bra, tie their hair back and go to a bar and pick up in 5 minutes?"
[Target smiles]
PUA: "I just dont think I can trust you! 5% of guys might be able to pick up but i guarentee that 100% of girls who want to could pick up. They choose. Look around at all the poor guys thinking they are picking up by standing 1 metre away from the beautiful girls around here."
[Target Laughs a little]
PUA: "And then you girls go around hurting all these poor guys, you know that 99% of guys who get date raped commit suicide with a year? And did you know that if you just use a guy they walk around all sad and lonely for ages - I really dont want to be like that. You could be a Sexual Predator!? I dont know if I can trust you! (I turned away a bit".

[At this stage she didnt pull me back so i turned back and dropped sexual predator and moved to a bit of fluff]

PUA: "So what brings you to this CITY?"
TARGET: "My family moved here, Mum and Sister"
PUA: "And this is your friend?" (Best Friend routine attempt)
TARGET: "No, I just work with her" (bail on best friend RT)
PUA: "Where do you work?"
TARGET: "In a cafe"
PUA: "I guess you need a way to make some money" (neg?)
[Target Shrugs]
PUA: "Where else in Australia are you travelling?"
TARGET: "Nowhere"
PUA: "Surely you want to go somewhere though, this country is amazing!"
[Target shaked head no]
PUA: "You just havent seen it yet"
TARGET: "Well I do want to see (some place)"
PUA: "THAT is one of the best places you could have chosen! I love it there."
TARGET: "Take me there!?"
[This is where it went bad]
PUA: "I will have to check the bank, but im sure I can manage it, haha, How about tomorrow?"
TARGET: [shrugs] "But I have work tomorrow."
PUA: "Quit! You can get another job when we get back"

I was being sarcastic but she came across as serious which completely threw me. She just seem almost upset.

PUA: "Smile, This country isnt that bad. Or are you just trying to be a sexual predator again"
TARGET: "You dont make me smile"
PUA: "Have a good night"


Now I reckon I ended it because she was being a massive hard-to-get and even when I was testing the game on other girls they reacted. I didnt feel the game working as if her head was shoved right up her own arse which surprised me because she really wasnt amazing. She also apparently said to my wing at after I introduced them during a bit of fluff that she was "a sexual predator" so I was surely getting through to her. I did ask "What was that?" and he could hardly speak almost in shock that I had made any headway at all. So i couldnt use that.

I know at points that I got some IOIs but I possible didnt act when she gave the best body language. The best thing is that I can just restart next time, not feeling like shit as usually do. She really annoyed me that she was being the cocky one when there were much bigger fish to fry.

EDIT: Is it possible that some Targets have their heads stuck so far up there arses its not worth it? Are there some that just wont bite because they want some meat head to walk up and say "lets bang"?

Still a bit drunk but hoping this post makes some sense.

RESETS.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:26 pm 
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you did fine dude stop beating yourself up over some random girl with a shit attitude. Who the hell knows what her issue is but dont listen to anything she told your buddy and foolishly believe it. Maybe she didn't like you shirt, maybe shes mad at her ex and wanted to go out to shoot down guys, maybe your game was 34% too weak, maybe she was still in pain form her anal last night, who the fuck knows. All you can do is keep being aggressive and improve your game, if you start personalizing results due to a normal amount of failed outcomes your gonna loose in the game - move on.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:36 pm 
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you did fine dude stop beating yourself up over some random girl with a shit attitude. Who the hell knows what her issue is but dont listen to anything she told your buddy and foolishly believe it. Maybe she didn't like you shirt, maybe shes mad at her ex and wanted to go out to shoot down guys, maybe your game was 34% too weak, maybe she was still in pain form her anal last night, who the fuck knows. All you can do is keep being aggressive and imRprove your game, if you start personalizing results due to a normal amount of failed outcomes your gonna loose in the game - move on.

Thanks man, I did find it very easy to walk off abruptly, so it was still my game. Felt fantastic. I think my first word to my wing afterwards was "What.....a......b!tch".


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:35 am 
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Yup. You handled things perfectly. She didn't realize that you're worth keeping around, so she lost you. Simple as that.


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Yup. You handled things perfectly. She didn't realize that you're worth keeping around, so she lost you. Simple as that.
Thanks SnS!


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 3:19 am 
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Now I reckon I ended it because she was being a massive hard-to-get and even when I was testing the game on other girls they reacted. I didnt feel the game working as if her head was shoved right up her own arse which surprised me because she really wasnt amazing. She also apparently said to my wing at after I introduced them during a bit of fluff that she was "a sexual predator" so I was surely getting through to her. I did ask "What was that?" and he could hardly speak almost in shock that I had made any headway at all. So i couldnt use that.
RESETS.
This doesn't seem like a bitch playing hard to get. What you've described sounds like the reactions of a girl with no interest--she's vague, and doesn't respond to your prompts or probe for answers.

On the right girl, at the right time, your lines would've won the bounty. But based on the events in your account, this girl just wasn't interested. So it goes.


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