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jonander50
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Hello Daniel.

I wanted to highlight an issue that occurs in many communities of seduction. Your time you use it, you feel unnatural?

It has been the subject of much discussion that ends up being pua make you unhappy, making you repress your true personality.

What do you think of all this? I want to have pretty girls around and I also want to create a fascinating life. I forget everything and just go into battle unarmed with the intention of working on real me, or is there really a transformation?

I think in the process of getting beautiful girls, you can make friends level, and gradually introduce you to a world of high standard.

Maybe there are people who just play WoW all week, and then the weekend is PUA, pickup and return home. In that case, of course.

How do you feel? You perceive inner changes? Thank you.
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It has been the subject of much discussion that ends up being pua make you unhappy, making you repress your true personality.
Being a "PUA". What's a pua?


Anything external that you associate with your identity is going to make you unhappy in the long-run. You can go out, meet girls & become really good with women without creating an ego out of it. In other words, you do not associate who you are with your results with women.


If you start to associate your identity with "I'm a PUA", you're basically creating a false mask that's preventing you from being your true self. Your true self never changes, whether you lay 1 girl or 100, you're the same guy, same amount of consciousness trapped in one body.


Putting your happiness in the hands of anything external will only bring unhappiness in you. You cannot find something that's inside of you by searching it outside yourself.


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I think you're right. The question is, what kind of approach should I make to the material, and to the general theory? Suppose I stack routines, or think inside theattraction switches while I talk to a girl, or the typical "pua" theory. Although I do not consider pua, but I "play", it is inevitable to be in your head thinking about all these structures. Can you relax and be ever fluid and do whatever you want?

That's what I meant.

I think you are quite right about what you say about not place your happiness in something external. But then you take the "game" as a game of chess or something? You do for fun?

If I want to have an amazing life (I'm working on it) and also an extraordinary ability to get women (typically based on material "pua") what do you think I should do?

There are communities who prefer seduction theory completely forget and grow the hard way, but the truth is that the theory is effective.

I guess I have explained well, could you explain more deeply what you said before? Thank you.
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That's the answer I was looking for, thanks! Good luck Daniel, reading your diary, I think I see great progress. 'll Write mine too.
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I think you're right. The question is, what kind of approach should I make to the material, and to the general theory? Suppose I stack routines, or think inside theattraction switches while I talk to a girl, or the typical "pua" theory. Although I do not consider pua, but I "play", it is inevitable to be in your head thinking about all these structures. Can you relax and be ever fluid and do whatever you want?
There's only one approach and anyone who tells you otherwise is completely lying to you. It's ACTION. You can read all you want, know the theory, everything & you will not be good. Knowing words on a paper doesn't require seduction skills, it's just a memorizing / understanding of theory. Anyone can read and understand what the words say. Without action you're done.

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If I want to have an amazing life (I'm working on it) and also an extraordinary ability to get women (typically based on material "pua") what do you think I should do?
Have an amazing life? Work on your passions & strive to become a better man in everything you do

Extraordinary ability to get women? Action. Go out. Talk to hundreds, thousands of women. Try different things. Gather reference points every night out. Action, action, action. Stop the forum. Action.


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@jonader50, @FlaiR, @jonander50 & @Hobbit.

Jesus guys, hi-jacking my journal huh? Here's my thoughts as far as I'm concerned. I'm not really answering the question though...

Pick-Up is not about happiness... it's about picking up girls... and if that goal is indeed related to your state and Inner Game, it's still not about happiness. Yet, Pick-Up has changed the way I see things for the better... but it comes with a price.

I think we all see reality through the filter of our convictions, our beliefs or even our desires... and sometimes those convictions are just wrong... Those do not relate to reality. Some people believe in god, other believe that everyone is against them... When it comes to Game, the filter is composed of the Limiting Belief we have about ourself (we are ugly, awkward...) but also about relationships in general. Pick-Up broke that filter.

You know that strange feeling? When you buy a cellphone... you love it but one day... you start looking at it differently... Same for people who are close to you... You realize things you haven't seen before... for the worse or the better... It starts feeling awkward... it's not comfortable... it's almost a nausea.

The same goes with game... I realize girls cheat on people, I realize you can be the king to someone one day, and nothing the other day, I realize most people just settle because they don't want to be out there... When you break the filter of your illusions, you start to have the upper hand but reality is hideous. Pick-Up Material empty the relationship world of its magic. It's you and you're looking at the ugly reality. Girls don't like you, just the status you're able to show in a given time.

I'm amazed by our ability to lie to ourselves... and every time we see reality as it is, we feel uncomfortable and we can't help it... we have this nausea... simply because reality is mute, it doesn't give sense... we are the one making the sense out of it, and most of the time we're full of shit. :)

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Quick Update.

Back to Barcelona... I got home pretty late after that amazing night with the Cute German. I woke up the very next day and added her on Facebook as promised to her. I spent the day sightseeing and was really surprised to receive this message:
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I was walking around in Barcelona with my german friend the hole day and I really love it. Such a wonderful place :)
And I was thinking a lot, to be honest. About yesterday, as you surely can imagine. And I am really in between thinking it was totally wrong and thinking it was not...I don `t know what to say. Do you mean it's a good idea to meet up again? I mean..you `re so much older than I am and you're living in Paris, you're still working - you live in a completly different world. And after my year in France I will definitely go back to Germany, to study for at least four years, maybe more. Well..I`m out of words. Just wanted to tell you about my thoughts...
I didn't really understand the message to be honest... Did she think I was looking for a relationship and rejected me? I didn't answer since I was out.
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and please answer me..tell me what you think. I want to know it because I really like you, okay? I never would have done that if I wouldn't. And if you 're hating me right now for what I 've wrote you, than tell me this. But please answer anything ..
Hating me right now? huh? It didn't make sense at all to me at all but now it felt like a rejection. I think she wasn't as mature as I thought. She was feeling bad about last night... I guess that's what happen when you make out with a 18 yo girl. I should have paid more attention to that.

I answered her question though. I told her it was pretty simple, I really enjoyed the moment we spent together last night and wanted to share another good moment with her while we could. I wrote that I didn't mean more or less.
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Okay, good to here that. Like this I have no problem with meeting you again. Just wanted to clear things ;)
I wasn't sure I got everything right... but I had no agenda with her... but I wouldn't mind seeing her again and spending another nice night... well that almost happened.

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Quick Update.

Back to Barcelona... I got home pretty late after that amazing night with the Cute German. I woke up the very next day and added her on Facebook as promised to her. I spent the day sightseeing and was really surprised to receive this message:
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I was walking around in Barcelona with my german friend the hole day and I really love it. Such a wonderful place :)
And I was thinking a lot, to be honest. About yesterday, as you surely can imagine. And I am really in between thinking it was totally wrong and thinking it was not...I don `t know what to say. Do you mean it's a good idea to meet up again? I mean..you `re so much older than I am and you're living in Paris, you're still working - you live in a completly different world. And after my year in France I will definitely go back to Germany, to study for at least four years, maybe more. Well..I`m out of words. Just wanted to tell you about my thoughts...
I didn't really understand the message to be honest... Did she think I was looking for a relationship and rejected me? I didn't answer since I was out.
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and please answer me..tell me what you think. I want to know it because I really like you, okay? I never would have done that if I wouldn't. And if you 're hating me right now for what I 've wrote you, than tell me this. But please answer anything ..
Hating me right now? huh? It didn't make sense at all to me at all but now it felt like a rejection. I think she wasn't as mature as I thought. She was feeling bad about last night... I guess that's what happen when you make out with a 18 yo girl. I should have paid more attention to that.

I answered her question though. I told her it was pretty simple, I really enjoyed the moment we spent together last night and wanted to share another good moment with her while we could. I wrote that I didn't mean more or less.
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Okay, good to here that. Like this I have no problem with meeting you again. Just wanted to clear things ;)
I wasn't sure I got everything right... but I had no agenda with her... but I wouldn't mind seeing her again and spending another nice night... well that almost happened.
Mate, you have to realize something. You're playing to not lose. What on earth are you doing, she's super hot as to what you're saying, she obviously wants to see you again.

You don't mind spending a nice night? You had her in your arms & you say: "it was nice putting my hands on her"..you basically just touched her. That's not getting the girl. You're running away from opportunities. Stop giving excuses and trying to rationalize everything she says.

You still haven't got this girl. Stop framing everything in a way that you're winning. You are not. You're maybe having small improvements, but you don't go all the way; I'm not taking away your credit, give yourself credit for the things you do good but still...wake up & go for it, stop waiting..


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Night #2: A-Game.

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I had a lot of fun the night before and got home around 5 am. I woke up 5 hours later, I didn't sleep well but hell... I was in Barcelona... I wanted to enjoy the city. I took a shower and got out with my camera. At the end of the day I was dead tired though. I decided to sleep right before going to the Pub Crawl.

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Hopefully, there were way more people than the night before. Again, I did my best to build value by meeting everyone. I've already met the majority of them the day before, I only had to start building value from where I left yesterday. We entered the first bar where a pretty nice DJ was playing. I was one of the first on the dance floor... I encouraged two British guys to join me. In a few minutes the dance floor was full and I had a huge smile in my face. Lot of people coming to me. That was great but I still had some people to meet.

As I was heading to the bar, I noticed my friend was speaking to two girls. One of them was really hot actually. Since he was by himself in a set of two, I joined him. I introduced myself to them... and started to speak to the cutie. She was German. We chatted for a bit. She smiled a lot to me... That was clearly an IOI. At some point she asked me to guess her age... I got it wrong... She was 18. The group started to move to the next place. I walked with her and started to escalate, touching her front arm, doing the claw when I was joking around with her... She had an awesome body. I decided to act as soon as I got in the club.

I left my jacket at the cloakroom and found her waiting next to the bar. "Let's dance". I grabbed her hand and started heading to the dance floor. At this point, I knew I already won. The music was so good... I love Barcelona... I was actually pretty impressed at my dancing skills... I was moving with her wonderful to the sound of music. I reached her lips and started to make out with her. I was on. I disarmed all the ASD: all the "I don't usually do this" "I'm not that kind of girl" "Am I not to young for you" became "You're cute".

Soon enough, I was getting bored of the repetition of our dancing moves. Told her I wanted to get some fresh air. We ended up on the beach. I sat on the upper march of a small stairway leading to the beach. She sat right in front of me. I had full access to her neck. We started to chat again, told her she kissed well and I'd like to see her again... I knew I couldn't get a SNL since she was in an hostel... and honestly, she was young, I was a bit undecided about all that. But I did like her a lot... she was extremely hot... and wearing a G-string. It's hard to focus when you have that kind of instrument in your hands. I only had one day left in Barcelona... could I see her again? I don't think so... but since she was living in France, she could visit me in Paris... Didn't know what to do. Got her contact to though. I kissed her neck which drove her crazy... I put my hand between her legs in a "I'm cold" way kind of move... I didn't dare go further because of her age.

The club was closing, I lost my friends. So did she. Grabbed my jacket, took a cab and got her to her hostel... and then to mine.

Result.
Everything went extremely smoothly. This night is definitely a keeper. I felt congruent, didn't hesitate, just went for it and jesus... she is gorgeous... she had an amazing body... so sweet. I was really happy to put my hand on that...

What I've learned.
- It's not really about the dancing/approaching skills but more about the congruence. If I feel congruent (in state, with enough value) I don't have any issue taking action.
- I have some not-so-bad dance moves
- Getting experience from one day to another is the best way to go
- I think I could get a girlfriend in a few weeks easily in Barcelona!
hey daniel,

it's it's been a while, you see the above?
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I knew I couldn't get a SNL since she was in an hostel... and honestly, she was young
are you sure about that?
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make out with her, Told her I wanted to get some fresh air. We ended up on the beach, I already won
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@pumpington.

I meant I couldn't "logistically". We were both in an hostel in shared rooms... and I know how hard it is to find a room in an hotel for the night... I had a bad experience in Brasil... spent more than 2 hours finding a place... it sucked. I'd rather invest in the long term... seeing her the day after... and maybe in Paris since she lives in France...

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Night #3.

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Last night in Barcelona. I've spent the day sightseeing. I've received Cute German's messages through Facebook but didn't really understand what she was saying at all. I just assumed she freaked out a little since she's young. Anyways I was to go back to the Pub Crawl at night and knew I might see her again that night.

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It was a Saturday night and we all went to the club directly. I had no way to warm-up and build value in the way... Most people were new to me... this night lacked the security net I usually build... I couldn't build the consistency I like and I clearly wasn't in state but I wanted to fight. I put my smile on and starting building value trying to meet people in the way to the club.

That's when I saw Cute German... I was pretty happy to see her... she was with some friends... came to her and got her a "claw job" to say hello... The thing is, she was incredibly cold... not smiling at all... I was really surprised. "Are you okay? Seems like you've just seen a ghost or something"... Started to chat her a bit trying to bring a high energy but she was not answering at all... I thought whatever... I'll come to her later on the dance floor and figure it out. But I was really surprised, I didn't expect such a "warm" welcome after the amazing night of awesomeness I had with her. Come on I had an A-Game moment the night before...

Joined my friend, we entered the club and I started to dance with some friends. My friend isn't into clubs so he was starting to be a bit impatient. We also had to get up early the day after to go back to France... I had to clear the air with Cute German. I started to look for her in the club.

Took me a long time but finally found her, she was just standing with her friends... God she was so hot... I came to her, grabbed her arm and told her in the ear "Let's dance"... She turned to me and told me "I don't think it's a good idea"... Wow. I was pretty pissed here.. I took her to an amazing night yesterday and now I'm just being ignored/rejected? What did I do wrong here... I actually asked her... It's a bit beta but that's the first thing that came to my mind "Did I do something wrong?"... No answer... Her friends started to approach me like I was annoying her or something... She didn't say anything... Just ignoring me... That hurt a bit.

I came back to my friend and got back to the hostel. Pretty lousy night in the end... but I've learned a lot though.

Result.
I just didn't understand at all what happened here. I know I wasn't in a good state of mind since the beginning, I realize it... this party could have been a winning one if I was in a better state... Could have taken that rejection easily and go back to dance... but I just didn't understand where that was coming from. She had an amazing night with me the day before... she was smiling like crazy... but now she was ignoring me... well... This night was a counter performance for me.

Areas for improvement.
- I need to learn to build value in a shorter period of time... Be better at it.
- Club environment... I like them when I have my safety net... otherwise I perform poorly: it's harder to build value.
- I'm not the kind of guys who gets pissed off easily... but that rejection had a bad effect on me... I didn't appreciate it. I should have stayed calm and try to speak with her and the friend who came to cut me off.

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Quick Update.

I've sent Cute German a message some days later... I just told her I didn't really understand the whole "ignoring me" situation but was still nice to have met her. She replied:
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I didn't ignore you. I just wanted to make clear that I won't get on like we ended the day before. Maybe our expectations where a bit different in this situation. I'm sorry if you felt ignored, that wasn't my plan. I was just a bit suprised to see you there and wouldn't have known what to tell you. In addition, I didn't want to loose everyone again and be in the same situation as in the first night. I promised to stay with my friends, because I scared them to death in the first night, and I didn't want to repeat that...
Sorry for me behaving rude, but I just don't feel good about all that..
Apparently she doesn't feel good about the night we spent together... I didn't treat her inappropriately at all, I took care of her actually... making sure she got to her hostel safely and all... I think the issue is just that she is young... that's pretty much it. If I was 18 and had a guy 7 years older (jesus sounds like a lot right now) than me dancing and making out with me... I would probably freaked out to.

I don't have any regret to be honest... but I don't really know what to do now. She kept me as a friend on Facebook after all... so I assume she realize I actually treated her well. I don't know if I should answer to that message... what I should answer... or if I should even try to see her again... If someone has an idea of what is actually going on... please be my guest. My only explanation is she is young and regret what happened (even though almost nothing happen... haha).

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Quick Update.

I've sent Cute German a message some days later... I just told her I didn't really understand the whole "ignoring me" situation but was still nice to have met her. She replied:
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I didn't ignore you. I just wanted to make clear that I won't get on like we ended the day before. Maybe our expectations where a bit different in this situation. I'm sorry if you felt ignored, that wasn't my plan. I was just a bit suprised to see you there and wouldn't have known what to tell you. In addition, I didn't want to loose everyone again and be in the same situation as in the first night. I promised to stay with my friends, because I scared them to death in the first night, and I didn't want to repeat that...
Sorry for me behaving rude, but I just don't feel good about all that..
Apparently she doesn't feel good about the night we spent together... I didn't treat her inappropriately at all, I took care of her actually... making sure she got to her hostel safely and all... I think the issue is just that she is young... that's pretty much it. If I was 18 and had a guy 7 years older (jesus sounds like a lot right now) than me dancing and making out with me... I would probably freaked out to.

I don't have any regret to be honest... but I don't really know what to do now. She kept me as a friend on Facebook after all... so I assume she realize I actually treated her well. I don't know if I should answer to that message... what I should answer... or if I should even try to see her again... If someone has an idea of what is actually going on... please be my guest. My only explanation is she is young and regret what happened (even though almost nothing happen... haha).

Next city: Berlin.
it's interesting you know, often times gut feelings can be pretty accurate asumming you have some empathy and are paying attention, but sometimes as you said in an earlier post, our own reality filters what we are seeing into a context that we understand based on our own reference experiences

the above underlined and highlighted is the gut feeling, paying attention to her, this is what she is showing you, but why?
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I think the issue is just that she is young... that's pretty much it. If I was 18 and had a guy 7 years older (jesus sounds like a lot right now) than me dancing and making out with me... I would probably freaked out to.
this is your filter on the events at hand, but what isn't lining up here daniel?

-I didn't treat her inappropriately at all, I took care of her actually... making sure she got to her hostel safely and all

-she realize I actually treated her well

but lets review her filter, what are her issues, what was she showing you that night to put these issues into a context?
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Maybe our expectations where a bit different in this situation
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I didn't want to loose everyone again and be in the same situation
she had a different expectation then you, she feels she risked it all but did not enjoy the outcome, so what would have made the outcome better for her, based on what she was showing you?
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I knew I couldn't get a SNL since she was in an hostel... and honestly, she was young
do you think she agrees with you and how you see the underlined above? do you think she abandoned her friends at the risk of looking easy, told you that you were cute, danced with you, kissed you, and left the club with you because she thought she was too young for you and that it wouldn't work out because she was in a hostel?

or

do you think maybe she is a little dissapointed you didn't just fuck her on the beach or find a way and now she doesn't want to put herself in that vulnerable position again for the same outcome?
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My only explanation is she is young and regret what happened (even though almost nothing happen... haha).

you might just be on to something here
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Took me a long time but finally found her, she was just standing with her friends... God she was so hot... I came to her, grabbed her arm and told her in the ear "Let's dance"... She turned to me and told me "I don't think it's a good idea"... Wow. I was pretty pissed here.. I took her to an amazing night yesterday and now I'm just being ignored/rejected? What did I do wrong here... I actually asked her... It's a bit beta but that's the first thing that came to my mind "Did I do something wrong?"... No answer... Her friends started to approach me like I was annoying her or something... She didn't say anything... Just ignoring me... That hurt a bit.
Perfect. You deserve it. That's what happens when you're not a man. They punish you. She's hot, she has guys all over her. Last time she made efforts to put herself in a situation where she's vulnerable and in a situation where you could've escalated towards sex. However, you didn't do anything. You bailed out at the last minute. No pulling the trigger..

"Amazing night yesterday". It was an amazing night because her emotions that night were up the roof and she was enjoying herself. You didn't won her at all, I already told you. You thought you won something by going to a beach and have a make-out. Not at all...her emotions changed. You didn't demonstrated that your a man of action / seeing escalation opportunities.

Also, she tested you to see if your emotional state relies on her responses. Is how you feel directly related to how she responds to you? If so, you failed to be a man. They punish for this & I'm glad it happen to you. This is what happens when you're playing to not lose, or when you think "I won" when you just got a make-out. Emotions change, you're thinking with logic. Her enjoying the night with you yesterday doesn't make her at all yours & it doesn't mean at all that she'll enjoy or want to see you again another time.


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@Pumpington & @FlaiR.

I wrote the post you're speaking about (filter) in lights of this event actually... I realize I can't trust myself to see things as they are. I always end up putting the filter of my desires or ego in front of my eyes... and it's hard not to do so. In this case, I've been brought to reality pretty harshly... I honestly didn't understand the situation and tried to make sense out of it. I just want to be able to understand what happened here a next time, learn from it.

You're telling me she was basically expected more that first night and that's why she reacted this way the next day? Really!? I didn't copy this at all. @FlaiR and you seem to think I should have had sex with her the very first night... I did say I wanted her pretty badly... and she was pretty OK with it.

In my view, she was young, realize how "slutty" it was and regret. That's how I read it.
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Perfect. You deserve it. That's what happens when you're not a man. They punish you. She's hot, she has guys all over her. Last time she made efforts to put herself in a situation where she's vulnerable and in a situation where you could've escalated towards sex. However, you didn't do anything. You bailed out at the last minute. No pulling the trigger..
Is this what happened? If yes... I guess I'm way too naive...
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Her enjoying the night with you yesterday doesn't make her at all yours & it doesn't mean at all that she'll enjoy or want to see you again another time.
I learned that yeah.

Anyway still was a good experience... :)

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