TERRENCE,DIAMOND

On saturday i met up with TERRENCE and DIAMOND to do daygame in town.
Due to boiling heat i was only able to do handful of approaches which i will summarise.
i was in Primark looking for clothes than i approach one of the staff.

me; hey, does this jacket make me look older.

shop girl; we have other jacket over there.

me: the reason why i ask is because some girls i talk to think i look too young for them.

shop girl; sorry am busy

me; are you a student?

shop girl; yes ( we had short 5 min conversation)

inside paradise forum

me; hey, i think you really cute so i had to come over and say hi
girl; am 15
me WHATT!!!

Approaching, was a minor issue. The big ones were that u offended every single member of the group. I gave u clear reasons and u chose to ignore them. U blame everyone but yourself. U got more and more dominantly negative as time went by damaging the other guys. U insulting Slick was the feather that broke the camels back. U do not know the difference between a neg and an insult. No one wanted to sarge with u except me, as I enjoyed the challenge of pushing someone paralysed with fear. Even after I shook ur hand as a peace gesture in a bar u continued your insults. U are one ungrateful man. U insult everyone, then behind the scenes u beg the same guys to sarge with u. I offered to mediate between u and the guys, yet for some idiotic reason u blamed me. U were suspended to cool off, I was upset that u still were not mature enough to accept any of your flaws. U were too proud to meet the terms to come back. U chose to be banned. I created the team to provide support. U have no remorse, empathy, nor do u show human compassion, u have absolute no respect for women and only see them as objects, I did my best to change your attitude. I pushed u further than anyone pushed u in your life. U chose to show ingrattitude to Slick, who is 10 years your junior who allowed u the luxury to stay at his flat.

I took u in, when other groups and guys refused to sarge with u. Before u got suspended u had many warnings, u r grown man, and I was very patient.

U read too much. U spend 2 hours in a bar not talking to anyone, and yet u have the arrogance of a mpua. Your posts are nothing but hatred and misinformation. It is disgusting that u like to attack and yet beg for sympathy like a child.

U r the architect of ur own self destruction.

U have absolutely no clue how to apologise, a one word sorry is meaningless as it does not show that u understand what u actually had done wrong. U make a post about your feelings, but not once do u even show that u understand the pain u have caused to guys u have offended. Some may actually call this sociopathic.

I want nothing more to do with u. Ever.

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The Field Reports.
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CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISMS FOR JACKAL - HOW TO MANAGE THE GROUP BETTER

JACKAL : You are totally right. I don't deserve to be in your amazing gang of hot guys. But don't be mad at me bro. I might have been a bad influence in your group. But there is always room for improvement in your group.

I have to give you some constructive criticism.

1) The group should not be "your" group. It belongs to everyone. You should not own the group. Everyone should own it and provide value to it. PUA is a movement for the freedom of men and improve their social status. This is not a group designed to improve the personal life of JACKAL because he is bored with his life. You provide value to a lot of people but it sounds a bit selfish that you can destroy it any fine day you choose because you started the group.

2) If a person joins the group, he should be allowed to sarge with another group if he wants to because he is a co-owner of that group and has the freedom to do whatever he wants. Restricting people from sarging with others is a seriously immature thing because you have to appreciate the passion someone has for his art and not curtail his activities and efforts to improve his art.

3) You do not have the right to "ban" someone from the group. If you do not like someone, just tell them you don't want to sarge with him again. When you create a fear among people in the group that you are going to ban them and not allow them to sarge with you, you will be judging people and creating undue pressures for them to perform. PUA is an art. PUA is not a competition. Everybody is unique and has his own standards and has to better himself only based on his standards. Not on others' standards. There should be no comparision between two PUA's. One could be good at approaching but the other could be good at escalation. So if someone approaches and never escalates, he is as good as a horse which can be taken to the water but doesn't drink the water.

4) Creating ranks in the group creates tensions among people. For example, the day you went to Brighton, you made me captain for that weekend. The reason I was made captain was because of extraordinary performance the previous weekend where I, you and slick went street sarging and we approached almost 20 to 30 sets without giving a single fuck. I was on fire. It was not taken well by VOLCANO and SLICK the next week when we went sarging. SLICK even personally sent me a message saying that he had AA and had to blame me and he joined VOLCANO in aggravating me for their own personal incompetence when they compared themselves to me. VOLCANO started asking me to fuck off and then I apologised to him for no fucking reason but still he started aggravating me again the next week. In fact, when I look back, all the interactions I have had with volcano have been that way. He was condescending and very patronising. He only makes fun of my Indian accent all the time or SLICK's American accent. I could not understand the group dynamic at that time. But I suppose my energy was on high frequency and some people cannot take it.

5) You have destroyed all my friendships which I had made with the people in the group. You have set all of them up against me by banning me. If you want to continue setting them up against me and try to do any psychological warfare and doing propaganda against me, you are welcome. Bring it on. I am here all alone. I will welcome all your aggressions with open arms. But let me put it simply. You will regret any action you take against me. Ima whoop yo ass so bad, yo mamma gonna pick up yo ass scraps ripped apart from da street.

I have been reading this thread for some time, It has been interesting reading all the reports from you guys. Very entertaining to say the least!
 
Talk about the blind leading the blind!!
 
Few things I'd like to point out-
 
Jackal-
You have clearly helped to put people in positions they would have not done without help. I.e talk to women!
However, I get the impression you did this to boost your own ego as you performed in front of your "students", thus making you look cool to a Group of people- I expect you were not the coolest kid growing up & this helped you gain some social status?! But credit where credit is due, you have helped push people outside of their comfort zone which is never a bad thing.
 
Don Juan-
You are obviously not happy about being excluded from the group & no matter how much you say you are not bothered- To an outsider, it's pretty clear that you are bothered!
You are coming across in a way which indicates you are bitter towards the group as you are no longer a part of it.
You are too "text book" & believe things should be done in a certain way. Even down to the way you deal with comments aimed at you! (ie neg amplification!!)
Your list of "alpha traits", Yea there is some truth in this but these things should come naturally!
 
My advice to you my friend- Go out on the pull with some new friends that want you there!
If you don't have any then use this as a positive & go meet new people, In the Gym etc.
 
I'm always bing told I'm an alpha male & have no problems meeting women I can assure you & am happy to prove that if needed!
 
Don't get mad reading my comments, I'm just saying it how i see it. Don't hate the player- Hate the game!
 

confidence_is_the_key : Yes I am totally bothered by the exclusion from this group. I dream about being with them every day. I miss them so bad. When I see JACKAL, I feel so much love for him. I sometimes have gay wet dreams thinking of JACKAL's hot body. Sometimes I also imaging kiss closing volcano who is a real handsome devil.

Yes, I hold a text book when I do game. I read mystery method routines right out of the book when I open a girl. Sometimes it does work u know.

From your username, it sounds that you are a real alpha male and you must be fclosing 3 fit birds in a night. I would love to meet you up and you can teach me how to meet women. Ok ? Good night.

That's the exact kind of response i expected- Your a predictable guy!
What does a username really say about someone then??
I practice what i preach- Confidence is the key my friend, I've always been complimented on being confident-
Have a read of my previous posts. You will get what I'm about!
 
"I would love to meet you up and you can teach me how to meet women. Ok ?".......
 
That sounds to me like a challenge, & i do love a good challenge!
Would Sir like to put his money where his mouth is?
I am happy to accept & go on the pull with u & if I am no good & you show me up then I'll hold my hands up & say well done-
Then maybe you can teach me a few things?!
 
I am more than up for a challenge!
 
Your call playboy????

Ok, so I have just received the following private message from jackal

"When I started I did not do much approaching, as I was verbally instructing. I did not do much purefuly for the reason u stated, due to allegations of being called a show off. If u think what I did was easy u r in clowd cuckoo land. Talking to girls is a lot easier than running a team.

After external criticism and accusations of being accused of not being able to approach, a became a demonstrator. I am frankly offended at your comments.

Cut me some slack.

I have provided very good reasons. Your reasons are cliched interpretations.

I am reasonable and have never turned down the offer of meeting anyone.

My rational has been explained to every student. It is pointless to explain it to external members."

I would like to respond publicly.

Jackal,
I am sorry if you were offended at my previous comments.
I was simply saying it as I see it.

The fact that you gave up much of your free time to help others out free of charge is commendable, if you are helping others that want the help then that is good of you and not to be knocked. Fair play to you.

However there are aspects I do not agree with for example, making people "qualify" to join you, such as silly phone calls etc.
This to me is just childish.

Like I said, fair play to you for helping others, regardless of reasons behind it, as I'm sure you developed and gained status/ confidence also for yourself?

I appreciate you responding to me. Unlike Mr Don Juan, who is yet to respond- maybe he doesn't wanna put his money where his mouth is!

Any other explanations u require I will give u in person.

Small note. Publicly posting a PM is not something I would do. I do respect peoples confidentiality. No big deal though, I am a big girl and can live with it.

Apology accepted and thank you.

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The Field Reports.
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The Lay Reports.
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Why do you want to meet me ? Are you gay ? If yes, then lets meet.

Unfortunately I'm as straight as they come. Sorry to disappoint you.

I wanna see you put your money where your mouth is Don

To be honest i am fed up off Jackal hiding behind his words.
Nobody has accused you of not being able to approach a set. People have said that you are not able to seduce a girl or fuck close. You have in the past bragged about being a great pua but you are never able to get a girl to kiss(i meen snog) you and get a fuck close.

Mauybe DON Juane is right and making valuable points. Not one of your students have ever seen you take a girl away the same night or kiss(snog) the girl that you open. You use your words carefully to try and decsve people.

I know from meeting you that you are a unconfident man and need a group around you for you to feel better.

Aaron and Peter both agre that you cant do what you tell others to do and this is only for your benefit to make you feel better in your life.

Don Juane needs to put his words across in a different way because it

If you are honest to everyperson then you dont need to explain yourself. dont hide the truth because it will hurt when it comes and you dont want it to.

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Why did u not introduce yourself. As the guy from online. I am not afraid of being judged.

Where u frightened I might judge u back. U r not much of a man If u did not have the balls to say any of this face to face. I could understand If I lived in another town. This is not a challenge. It takes no effort to debate online, it takes prowess to debate verbally. U had an opportunity to put your thoughts to me, but u chickened out. Honestly I still do not know who u r, nor do I care.

Drop ur ego, and be happy feeling superior.

Really being critizised by a spineless chicken who is too scared to talk to women on his own. Who needs his friends to hold his hands, and needs alcohol to give him courage, does not impress me.

Groups have their uses. But if u cannot do this on your own, u do not have leg to stand on.

Apologies to those that have a need for support and alcohol, but are not as arrogant as Zennor. But since T Zenor thinks he is superior. He needs to think before he barks.

I talk this way because I spend a lot of my time learning social dynamics. I do not sit on my arse, sarging once a month, then lord it online.

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The Jackal an Introduction.
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The Field Reports.
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The Lay Reports.
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your arguement doesnt make any sense.
Still you are using your words to turn things around.

How honest are you then, why dont you introduce yoiurself?

Is your real name JACKAL? I didnt think so

Think before you speak(or write).
I said I would meet you and you wrote some crap to me sayin g about a phone test. Why should i have to do a phone test to sarge with someone? What is the point of that i am probably better than you anyway.

You constantly talk rubbish

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Of course his real name isn't Jackal.He tried to be stand up comedian but failed. You can watch his vidoes and get his real name from that and watch the other videos of his foolish students that do as he says.
If you want to go into honesty let's start with some questions for Jackal.

Are you married?
How many girls have you slept with not including prostitutes?
Have you ever got with a girl by yourself?

Jackal talks big but infact he just hides behind a fake character with the intention of making people think he is an alpha male and strong man with a happy life. Don't be fooled by this persona. He is not an honest man at all. Any further questions you can inbox me I am always up for a debate.

When I first joined jackal's team, JACKAL used to ask me, Diamonds and DOLPHIN to meet in front of Jam House. He then asked us to stand in line like we are soldiers and he is the seargent . Then he would ask us to salute him. He told us the rules of the jackal crew. Then he asked us to repeat the rules of the jackal crew loudly. Although it was all utterly ridiculous, I followed all this thinking that it would somehow benefit me to overcome my inhibitions. But infact, the only intention of the jackal in getting us to do all this was to maintain a hierarchy and establish his dominance over us. I clearly didn't give a fuck for his dominance till the end because I only treated him as a friend and allowed him to do whatever stupid things he did so that he feels comfortable with himself. He could feel that all the time that I didn't give a shit while the rest of the crew were fighting for their status and power in the group. Everytime someone complained against me, I was just cool and didn't react much. I was only concerned with my self-improvement and making friends. The only reason I managed to stay in the group was because I was a genuine friend and a very good wing who brought value to the group.