Date: 19 november 2011

NO SARGING NIGHT


Wow.. I'm really pissed..no sarging night this week. None of my wingmen can come and I have some shit to study, or else I would went alone. By the way, I'm going to finish my school session in like 2 weeks.. and after that.. sarging 5 times / week.. 2 days day game - 3 days night game. I'm going to seriously improve my skills so tune in for some nice field reports!! Peace out!

Goal for this winter vacation: getting a nice Fuck Close

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And fuck close you will my friend !

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Hey quick question, do you consume alcohol when sarging?
If yes, how much?

.. I was wondering how many of the great Lay Reports are of people being 100% sober and not after a few drinks

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Egocentricfear,

My buddy Valentyn does not get drunk ever when he is sarging. He is always 100% sobered up. The max i've seen him drink is a beer or two.
The almost F-close you saw in his journal is the only time he drank while he was sarging and it didn't end up that well.

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Exactly..getting drunk is not only affecting your game.. but it's also like an excuse to talk to HB's.. because you are less shy to interact with people. And when you will not be drunk.. you wouldn't be capable of gaming because you rely on alcohol to eliminate your AA.. which fucks your inner game even more! With that being said.. with the HB that I was supposed to Fuck Close.. I didn't have a choice but to drink.. because all the 6 people were drinking and it would've been a big DLV for me to not fit in the group. I didn't really had a choice.. but now that I experienced it, I do not recommend you drink "while you are doing your job"!

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Date: 25 november 2011

Members: Valentyn, AG, Razb & a hole bunch of other PUA's

Location: Radio Lounge (NOISY NIGHTCLUB)


SHIT NIGHT

Allright so first of all.. I met some new PUA's on this forum and we had a meeting at a bar before entering the field. There were 2 particular guys that are doing this pick up stuff really good and we are the first 3 to arrive. Now as we talk, there's like a 5 or 6 set that past near us.. this PUA just opens them so easily.. after I think 15 sec the girls were just staring at him and each wanted to get his attention. I'll be honest right now, even for him maybe it was a piece of cake.. I never saw somebody that good in pick up do his thing.. I was really mind blown.. true skill.

Anyway we meet other PUA's and we seperate in groups of 2-3 just to not DLV ourselves (we were like 9 guys). We enter the club and there is not a fucking hamster in it.. the place was dead, but it was really early too. So we started waiting for some sets to arrive.. which didn't till 12:30AM.. but the music was fucking loud I'm sick of it you couldn't talk shit. We did open but it sucked balls.. my multiple threading was horrible??!! What the hell I don't understand.. is it because I missed a sarging night last week and I shouldn't miss field nights because I just started out? I don't know.. but it pissed me off. Plus, it took a lot of time before HB's came in the club.. there were only guys and 3/4 of the club was empty. Each approach we made lead to nothing.. no isolation what so ever.. there was one set that had a little bit of kino.. and I was just tired of talking loud man my voice was fucked up after. By the way.. I just bought "Rules of the Game" by Neil Strauss, because I love this author and I'm going to do his 30 day challenge..I think that I read so many stuff that I need to stop reading.. I don't even know what to use in field because I have so much information. I need to stop reading and follow an action plan. That's why this challenge seems like a good idea..I'll keep track of it each day in this journal.


OVERALL

I met a lot of new people.. I really like the fact that I met these 2 great PUA's that really know their stuff.. even if they didn't do anything extraordinary.. seeing them in action for 30sec was just enough to tell me they don't mess around. We catched a shitty of night in a club that was full of shit.. empty and it sucked balls. I'm not going to describe any interaction that we had because I'm just really not proud of my performance.

POSITIVE

I think the only positive element of this night is that we went out and didn't stay home. That's it. I'm not even proud of opening.

NEGATIVE

- could not hook the targets
- multiplethreading was horrible (which I usually don't have a problem)
- club was empty
- there was some hesitation before opening (it took me too much time to open)

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Date: 26 november 2011

GAME BREAKDOWN


Ok so I needed to write this because I think lately I'm doing something wrong in pick up. I need to stop learning or reading material and just go out and practice. Experience just cant beat knowledge and lately.. I've been trying to figure out which method is better, because there are so many in this community. Well I just realized there is no best model that gets you hooked up with girls. Anything can possibly work.. it just has to suits your style and your goals. I have a lot of knowledge.. more than I could possibly imagine.. I know all the do's and dont's from many methods and I feel like my head is getting fucked up in field. There's this constant struggle on what to use and what not to use or what works and what doesnt. The thing is that because I don't have enough experience, I just cant figure out which method is best for me.

I just saw a video of Sinn posted on the 21 convention site.. and it just made me realize all this stuff.. I need to re-program my pick up skills right now.. so what I will do from this moment on is that I will no longer read. I will read no shit anymore. That's it. I will kind of re-start from step 1 by choosing the best method I think suits my personality and way of pick up and stick to it for a period of time. Sinn was talking about how beginners should stick to a model because we don't know where we at in an interaction. Are we in comfort? attraction? seduction?? It's hard when you don't have enough experience. With that being said.. I truly believe my method is Mystery Method (for the moment). Sinn also said how he became so good at this by breaking down the steps.. he didn't wanted to do all the things at the same time. He started by only putting importance on opening (for 2 weeks).. his goal was to only open. Later, he started going to step 2 which I don't know maybe it was negging the target. So this is what I'm going to do. I'm taking a step back from all this shit even though I have some small experience.. I'll kind of re-start from ground 0. I will go out and try to not think about any material what so ever.

Also, what I realized yesterday in field is this fact. Talking about gaming before entering the field fucks you up! Why?? You're going with this mindset that you're in the field with the goal to sarge and you put this responsibility on your shoulders that as a beginner.. will crush you. After you get out of your house.. get out of that mindspace of going out to hit on girls and game. Just relax and have some fun.. talk about the best NHL goals of the week with your wing. Don't put pressure on something that is supposed to be fun.


16 of december: End of college session and the beginning of the 30 day stylelife challenge. I will literally break down step by step taking small steps towards my goal. My wing Gamon will do the challenge with me..can't wait we start this buddy! I have a great feeling about this!

My method: Mystery Method

Goal: Have a nice fuck close the soonest possible!

It feels great to just realize this and I'm happy I'm keeping to write in this journal and that I didn't quit sarging from the moment I started. I really don't accept and don't believe in excuses. Everyone can make excuses.. easy shit to do..who the fuck can't make up excuses??. But if you know you took the responsibilty to get good at this.. man up and take action guys.. sitting around at your house will take you nowhere!

With that being said.. peace out guys! Have fun sarging!!

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What I meant was.. Knowledge can't beat experience lol.. messed up my words..

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Hey man,

I read your last post and you're absolutely right. You could know every method, neg, IOI, routine by heart but without actually going out there often enough to practice and gain experience and by not constantly working and tweaking something that actually works for you will never get you anywhere.
Can't wait to start the challenges with you and get that experience we're looking for man...
We're gonna OWN THAT SHIT!

Peace

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Date: 1st december 2011

ASPECTS OF MY GAME THAT I NEED TO WORK ON


Allright so at the beginning of each month, I'm always, if you read my journal listing where I would like to increase my skill in pick up. Because I just made a re-start on my skills which means that I'm going step by step following only the M3 Model (Mystery Method), here are the basic skills that I need to start getting very good at in the M3 Model

- Open every set in field (using the 3 sec rule)

- Give a root to the opener

- Give a false time constraint

- Create attraction - by DHV and by negging the target

Of course it's much more complex than this, but overall this is what you to do in A1 - A2 - A3

It's kind of hard to take it from step one again, because even though I'm not an expert, I still have some field experience, but I'm looking forward to see what this model has to offer! Sarging night tomorrow!

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I've read a lot from your diary, i love the detail you put into it, fuckin awesome! Im soon gonna start my own journal to .
I see you've read the definitive book of body language. You know the part where the handshake is dominant when holding it a certain way etc. How should you shake hand with the people? Should it be dominate with females and straight equal with the guys? It doesn't say about attraction in the book.
// ratchet

19 years old guy from Montreal. I don't have time to read your post now but I figured I should post something so I could keep in touch with this thread! Will read it later and try to help you out

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Dear Optimist, Pessimist & Realist,

Just to let you know that while you guys were arguing about the glass of water...... I drank it!

Sincerely, the Opportunist

Thanks a lot dude! I'm glad my journal helps you.. I think this is the best tool that you can use when you start sarging.. it helped a lot.. you realize a lot of things by writing. For the body language question.. I'm a pro in body language.. and here's the thing with handshakes. Never make a dominant handshake to another person.. your handshake should always be vertical so that is shows that you two understand eachother. That way.. you befriend the obstacles of your target and they will feel less threatened by you. With females... this is really important.. calibrate the force of your handshake with her force.. if she doesn't hold tight because she's shy, immediately match her force of handshake. It is also important to beware if a guy wants to give you the dominant hold.. that means he wants to AMOG you because you present a threat to him. Switch his hand in the vertical position to show him he's not the boss of you. Hope I helped! Keep reading that book it's unbelivable! And it does talk about attraction later in the book.. a lot!

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Thanks a lot for trying to help me man! I appreciate it a lot! We should sarge together somtime! PM me if you're down any time!

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Date : 2 december 2011

Members: Valentyn, Gamon & Froggy

Location: Chez Serge (BAR)


LEARNING LESSON

What up guys... I'm going to start this FR with a special shoutout to my new wing Froggy. He showed me something that I never saw another PUA do yesterday. He almost opened all the fucking bar by himself..he trully showed me that opening is not a skill. Anyway.. we arrive in field and me and Gamon are blown away.. the amount of sets and HB's over 7.5 was fucking huge. Music was not too loud and the place was just perfect for sarging.

Froggy starts by approaching a warm up set. I enter the conversation and we talk for like 5 min... and than he did an approach with the gay opener to a 6 or 5 set of HB 7.5-8.

F: Hey guys do you think my friend looks gay? *or something like that I didn't heard him*

So there's this one HB that she was really in to me.. she heard that and said " No he looks good". Than she came near me and started playing with my hair..

V: "Hey stop it.. hands off the marchandise!"
HB: *Smiles* But touches my hair again
V: "Wow It costs you 5 $ each time you touch me "
HB: *touching my hair again even more*
V: *taking her hands* "Omg.. it's really not nice to touch other people's hair you know?"
HB: "Haha ok...I'm sorry!"
V: "Don't worry about it"

* She sits down on a chair and we start talking... here's the thing... SHE was sittingdown and I didn't have a chair.. so I did Mystery lock-in spinning move*

I put my hand in front of her suggesting her to get up and make a spin for me...which she did and that was a big IOI compliance test. When she got up I make her do a spin and as she's spinning, I sat down and took her place HAHA I felt like a boss Wow... the impact of my move was mindblowing. After just a sec that I sat down.. she made me a big smile and she came to me.. took me by the neck and sat down on me with her arms around me...(fucking big IOM and IOI). At this point as I said to myself allright this chick likes me a lot I have to close this HB (she was cute..like a 7.5). So her friens were giving us looks and one of them asks me if we want to take a picture together. I'm like.."guys.. usually I charge my photographs..it costs you 2$ each picture" The girls laughed...great. I wanted to DHV so I made an ESP trick... I tried to kino her a lot when I made it.. she gave me a lot of kino back her hands were always touching me so I took it again as an IOI..but here's the thing. FUCK ESP! FUCK man it didn't work... she chose another number than 7 or 3 and I just negged her.. I told her "You didn't really believe I had magical powers did you?".. I do not recommend you do an ESP.. it never works..

Now here comes the problem of our situation. There was this mother of cockblocks.. damn after my girl sat near me and we started talking..I should've isolated her and take her from her friends.. fuck I didn't think of that when I was in field.. but this little tiny shrimp of her friend started saying that they want to leave and that everyone should get a cab. My target says that she wants to stay another 10 min or she can come home by helself later on! I took that again as a fucking big IOI this girl is not going to leave with her friends because of me.. and here's what happened next. Another friend tells her to come to the bathroom implying that she wants to tell her something. My target leaves and I'm like.. I think she's going to talkshit about me.. and guess what? I was right.. what the hell happened?? My target came from the bathroom she passed near me and all the group went to get their clothes. ?!!?!?!?!?!?!???????????????????? What the fuck man?? Woww so pissed.. so fucking frustrating.. Bitch if you're jealous that me and your friend were getting along get the fuck out of the bar! Anyway.. special thanks to Froggy and Gamon who tried dealing with the mother CB but they just couldn't deal with her Bitch Shield.. Froggy also made a good statement towards me and my target when we were sitting down.. he said "I think you guys look really cute together".. I didn't really knew what to respond so I just made a smile and let the silence talk for me.

So again I was pissed because my target was like 21 years old man I could've fuck closed her so well...but I tried to forget about it in field. Froggy made other approaches I think and like there's this one girl that stands alone that's like a...3/10 lol so I open just for fun and for practice. Basically, I called her.. but she didn't heard.. I called her again.. didn't hear.. the third time I gave her a small kino like really small.. she jumped 2 feet away from me and looked at me like I was going to abuse her. I'm like chill out vanilla face we're in a public gathering... we talked for like 3 min than i ejected.

We sit down and there's this HB that goes to the bathroom but bumps into me.. so I give her a look and she says sorry. When she comes out of the bathroom I tell her..
V: "Hey it's not nice to bump into other people you know?"
HB: "I know I'm sorry" *She stopped walking, so if I would've multiplethreaded in a great direction she would stay more*
V: "It's okay.. but you didn't say sorry when you bumped in to me though"
HB: "Yes I did!" *at this point our interaction isn't bad*
V: "No.. you're a liar!"
HB: "Allright nice to meet you"

Damn... neg too harsh and I didn't smile...I learned my lesson though.. it's still great to practice and gain experience. So yeah these were my interactions yesterday.. I'm fucking mad I got cockblocked man.. that girl was feeling me a lot.. I don't understand. Here's what I also noticed yesterday! It's fucking important to know some canned material...the lines I used from Mystery were great! His model gives you great structure.. I just realized that I was no more in the Attraction phase.. I shoud've went in Comfort (Isolate) becaues the attraction was there.. she gave me so many IOI's and even the IOM.. but I didn't thought of that and I was doing material from A1-A3... but it's good.. I'm gaining some experience!


OVERALL

Not bad night.. I used material and I followed the M3 model..Froggy showed me that opening is not a skill.. I really have to give him big props man.. he's the only asian guy that I know that would've approach hot girls. This field is just great for hooking up! Guys if you live in Montreal.. go there! The sets are fucking hot! With that being said.. vacation in 1 week and a half guys! Sarging marathon is coming up! Peace out!

POSITIVE

- used the M3 model
- builded great attraction with my target
- used the spinning move for the first time (great shit wow)
- kino well my target..even got the IOM

NEGATIVE

- didn't fucking Kiss close my fucking target fuck!
- didn't at least number close her ass
- didn't dealt with the CB
- shoud've approached using the sec 3 rule
- shoud've approached more sets..

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