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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:22 am 
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Instead of having canned material to fall back on. Why don't you get used to having ro improvise?

I understand what you're saying, it gives you a sense of comfort, a safety net if you like. But it's these safety nets that can keep you from progressing.

A lot of people tend to say to avoid fluff talk. I actually find fluff talk a good oppurtunity to focus on other things, and is a better moment to throw in teases and such things. The teasing makes the fluff talk fun and playful and all light, and whats best you don't really have to 'think' much. Banter with her, I know you can do this, just pretend she's me ( ; (don't batter her, just take the piss).

If I'm totally honest, I guess you could say I have a 'routine' for the initial opening. It's generally ShowInterest>Start talking ...about whatever, make statements, make assumptions about her. Tease a little, tiny teasing is good, because, it's more likely to spark a reaction, and getting a girl to react, is good. Unless her reaction is *bored - walks off*.

One time, I could'nt think of anything to tease her with, so just said I'm actually starting to wonder if I wanted to approach her/she was worth approaching, or something along those lines. Some may say thats risky, but, if you're doing things my way, you've already paid a compliment and this usually gets the :O reaction. I find this works in most situations. I tried something like this on a really high value woman, like, seriously fucking high value, much more mature than I, she was shocked, paused, shook her head and walked off. I was a bit ghetto scatty at the time though, was funny none the less.

But in most situations, this works for me, say something that makes a woman gasp at your cheekyness, and they will more than likely respond to it.

You have a cheeky look to you, try it. I'm pretty sure you can pull it off, im pretty sure you probably have. It feels 'scarier' to try it on girls you perceive as HOT, because you're worried you'll offend them and they'll fuck off. Or would you rather just bore them into the ground?

I'd rather a hot girl telling people im an 'asshole' as opposed to 'boring'. Think about it.

I missed the main point i wanted to make. But, try it. It's easy to be a twat. You've seen me, it's effortless :D

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:13 pm 
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ok so saturdays report.

i met up with Garaa agian this afternoon... we were meant to meet up at 1, he didnt get there til 2, then i didnt get there til half 2. we went for a coffee and then as soon as we left the coffee shop i ran into an old friend and chatted to him for half an hour, so didnt even start til about half 3.

so my objective today was to go indirect and try and get some actual conversations going.... after the last day out with Garaa i thought it would be easy to open sets... he has a real fire for sarging and its infectious... anyway only indirectly opened 2 sets all afternoon.... not good, just freezing all the time. im not even thinking im just completly frozen.... fuck im only asking if they know and good restraunts,,,,, how hard can that be.

anyway so second set i opened the girls said that there was a good bar... that they were on there way there themselves.... if i had of been opening and not been in my head i could have turned that into an instadate quite easily i think....

ok so night time was no better, i met up with the guys they opened a 2 set and i just stood there like a sore thumb so went for a cig and walk round the joint..... stood against a wall and realised i was seriously dlving myself so i started texting people just for something to do.... i then re entered the set about 20 mins in.... couldnt really get in the convo but stuck it out... i really should have gone off approaching and am totally frustrated at this AA.....

we were leaving and i was waiting for them outside when a girl asked me for a cigarette.... she said she had quit but really wanted one.... so i played about a bit said she needed to do a challenge before i would give her one.... bantered a bit... i was struggling like hell talking to her, just couldnt think of stuff to say but struggled through.... made a few funny comments,,, told her i would marry her then said i was gonna find a homeless guy to pretend he was a vicar.... no idea how this came up but she liked it.....

anyway i ran out of things to say and ejected. however i asked her for her number and she said errrr sorry i cant, i asked of she had a BF and she said erm sort of i have a girlfriend....... anyway so she said she would like to hang out and then we exchanged numbers....

no idea what to do next really so any help would be good....

went to another bar and wandered around aimlessly watchin the guys open sets etc..... spent an hour or so doing this.... my friend eventually taped a girl on her shoulder and hid behind me.....

she loked and looked away... i then tapped her on her shoulder and apologised for my friend.... then explained he was getting her attention for me.... we had about a ten min convo and she kept ripping me down.... this girl was sharp and i just muddled through. i have no idea how i got through the convo but i did and although the girl wasnt interested in me at all it was nice to actually meet them.... they were fun girls....

anyway im out on this girls birthday doo next saturday night and my objective is to make her jealous... so no lair, no friends who know what i do.... and an objective to get this girl into bed..... im actually looking forward to writing next weeks report.....


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:24 pm 
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HANK! Where has your progress gone? I got faith in you dude.

Remember my post about working the room? Its really great thing to do in a bar like setting, start talking to people, socialize, be yourself +. If a girl rejects you, you are able to turn it back to her by making it feel as if you were just saying hi and had no intentions of picking her up! Really get into the habbit of talking to the first people you meet at a bar. The faster and quicker you start working the room the better the entire day will be at that venue. I know it seems hard but just saying hi as your walking past someone can be all you need to get started!

We all got faith in you hank! Do work son!

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