one of the most inspiring stories iv read
top man!

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its pretty awesome u wont know wat the outsome is if your dont even try !

but im curious ..how did u transition for openin to other stuff..did u use dhv or wat did u say....if u dont mind can u post ur conversation?!?

cheers,
V

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same here man... I'd really like to know the conversation and a bit more of what happened from beginning to the #close. How were the transitions?

Arcane426

Heyy guys,
Well, first off - this pickup was a while ago now, so i dont remember exactly what happened (i'm still seeing this girl btw haha)
But with transitioning - This is something alot of guys have trouble with, you just need to have decent convo skills

Like, I remember with this pickup it was:

Me: Opener
Her: Thanks
Me: So yeah, what are you doing out here? clearly the library is inside!
Her: blahblahblah

And the rest is just flow - All you have to do is converse with her, flow, just talk - everyone has this ability.

The problems arise when PUAs get TOOO much into the game and the routines and concepts. U have to remember to keep things as natural as possible Otherwise:
1) You'll be picking up with routines and not urself - this can be good initially but after awhile this can be really depressing
2) You will become a social robot, knowing only routines and gambits...

You really need to trust your own mid-game and do what i do, namely:
Keep the concepts in the back of your mind (practise) so keep in mind that u have to tease, push/pull, and quite honestly, my mid-game is just my conversation skills with push/pull, disqualifiers, qualifiers, and maybe 2-3 routines as backup if i run out of things to say.

Just for you curiosity, these routines are:
- Who lies more?......and then i go into 5 Lies Game
- ESP routine... Guess a number between....
- Best Friends Test (if its a 2-set or something)

But please just go out, TALK to people, try to focus on keeping a conversation flowing and alive, with everyone you meet - at the same time though, know when they're not interested and excuse urself politely.. this will also help your calibration.

Hope SOMETHING of this helps

Cheers,
- Fr33stylez

P.S - if any of you guys are from Melbourne, i've got a group of melbourne Wings i met on forums with me, and i'm always up for a day sarge with some fresh faces.
Hit me Up

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Hey dude I'd like to read your guide but it came up as a broken link for me =[

Any mirrors or any other places it's posted that I can check out?

When I've got a bit more balls, I'll give this a shot. Been just trying walking past and smiling but honestly like suggested on another thread, but honestly I can't be fucked.

I'd sooner just walk up to them and get talking.

i had a great chat with his chick last weekend in a shop where i buy all my cool trendy shit and was having fun with this chick helping me pick out clothes, it wasnt routine cos it was all me and it worked, we were both having fun! but i couldn't fukin #close just gave each other the long meaningful look and I was gone, hated myself for it since she i could tell she wanted me to ask her out but just couldint do it. I went back this week to see if she is there again. she wasnt.

so I went on to few different shops looking for some ec i was goin to #close that day if it killed me!

started talking with this chick eventually as i was about to leave but despite my entire mind screaming "danger dont do it!!" i though fuk it wasted last chance not happening again! and i went for it

asked her out for a coffee date to help me pick out some new jeans (lame but hey!) for #close.

hb: aww im sooo sorry but i have a bf wouldn't be fair.

crash and burn. but as i was walking out the shop i just had a massive grin on my face. i went for it, failed, but god! did it feel good to give it a shot anyway its funny but u realise how silly that fear was!

going to try more approaches as i can manage to get out!

hope this helps someone!

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