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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:10 pm 
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02/11/11 and 03/11/11



I'll summarise: on the 02/11/11 i opened 12 girls. Some were amazingly hot, super hotties. I really pushed my barriers in terms of nerves and AA.

Key Points

Smoking blonde i opened that i thought i wasnt gunna, hottest girl of the day. one of the hottest girls i've ever opened. Maybe hottest?

Girl on bench in train station: I had opened 11 girls when i was on my way home, thought i'd make it an even 12 . Saw her and i bailed walked around then came back, stopped by her and asked for where the town centre was. BOOM. Havent done that before, ive never bailed and then gone back.

2 girls who i felt i could have carried on the convo but didnt were a highlight too.

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03/11/11

Didnt open, i felt like a comeplete chode.

Also i saw the hottest girl ive ever seen in my, amazing body. Just a HB10 if there was such a thing. A rare sight. On the train home, i planned on opening her after i got off but this time DIRECT and a PROPER INTERACTION/PICK UP. but i didnt.

I pussied out :/


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Anyway, i know i need to be hooking.

Also i know that now ive gotten AA under my belt a better (although today was a train wreck of a day) i need to focus on

QUALITY

not

QUANTITY


As in EC and DELIVERY and VOCAL TONE.

Ill keep you updated.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 7:11 pm 
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04/11/11


went out in town during day

opened 12 girls

went out at night for the first time in a month, got horribly drunk, got a make out and number, was so drunk i texted some shit that sounded funny to me but she REALLY didnt like it.

I really didnt care, nightgame isnt my thang. Although she sent a pretty brutal text message, that in my fragile hungover state, kinda hurt me.

Saw One-itis girl make out with some guy i know she's getting with, went home like a little girl all sad. Made an ass of myself (I hate being too drunk and i hate clubs)

Went out today (saturday) too hungover and sad. Im such a loser





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Review

On the FRIDAY daygame session these are the good points:

i opened 12 girls, good experience.

I opened the first 3 pretty fast but then spent about 20mins in the street not being able to do anything. I genuinely felt like i COULDNT not even 'just not feeling it'.

So i took a deep breathe, and opened some ok girl, straight onto the next one then the next one and off onto the next one! One of them was super cute too.

It was funny, each girl was going in the opposite direction so i was walking in a circle for about 10minutes. Built state, felt good.

2 girls i opened, i made great EC and BL. I felt like i really could have carried on the conversation. As the opener went like a convo rather than just an 'opener', if that makes sense. 1 i actually did sorta carry on after the opener for 3seconds.


Plan

directions opener
"thanks you're really friendly"
Follow up opener (expensive clothes opener)


Plan 2

directions opener (but they don't know)
"oh right, you dont sound like you're from here actually [insert random area]"
"You seem really friendly though, ive actually got an interesting questions"
Follow up opener (expensive clothes opener)


Behaviours I Am Working On

Being Dominant
Being Persistant
Positive: stop moods and negativity
Stop swearing (i swear too much, its a personal thing)


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 3:10 pm 
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MONDAY 7TH NOVEMBER 2011

Goal

attempt 1 hook

Review


I spent 40minutes walking about not being able to open. Then i opened 1 another 20minutes of walking about doing nothing. Grrrr. Then i saw a girl standing against a shop, i walked passed but decided to turn around and open her.


Then i opened a hot girl after

then another hottie waiting outside a shopping centre.


This was it: 4 girls. I also felt like i was just 'opening' to open rather than to attempt a hook.


I wanna attempt Direct. Let me explain.

My main problem with Indirect is why the hell am i asking girls for coffee shop directions then following up with an opinion opener. Where does it end with material???

I want to have a real conversation with these women. I have nothing against material but i don't see where I'm supposed to have a real convo in Indirect?

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Rough Idea of my Progression

Well i hope to be hooking by end of December

Then i hope to be 'properly' hooking by the end of January.

Then i hope to be getting closes by end of March

Day2's by the end of April

Then full sex by end of May (my birthday)


BUT if direct goes well when i attempt it then maybe it will speed up the process or w/e. Who knows. I will learn both at the same time.


Last edited by Cornishman on Mon Nov 07, 2011 4:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 3:21 pm 
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Ive noticed its only been a month since i started this journal!!!

Ive actually come quite far(ish), i mean my personal journal only goes back to mid-June.

I mean when i started street game (i cant remember when i first started, March is just a guess but it was definitely after). Also i spent a long time trying to do more than i could, so i'd end up doing nothing.

Anyway, when i came to uni on Sepember 17th i didnt do any approaching for about 3 weeks, just to settle in. I only did about a weeks worth of approaching before is started this journal.

So its been about a month. If i call 2months before i start getting numbers and then after that i have to deal with flakes, day2s and lays.

Its hard to deal with patience, i put so much effort into this and you don't really see much difference. I cant do social game either, i cant do nightgame and all my SPAM (all girls) always bringing home guys and shit. Knowing that they know i dont get any just annoys me whilst they're getting laid.

Fuel for the fire.

I have opened 91 girls as of today in this journal. Must get that one hook attempt by the 100th approach!!


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:18 pm 
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09/11/11

Goal: 1 hook attempt/follow up.

Review

I opened 9 girls in total which makes it a total of a 100 girls since i started this journal.

3 interactions to highlight:

One girl had red matching bag, jacket and shoes (stylish), so after i said "I like the red thing going on" or something to that effect as it was on the spot. She said thanks and went on her way.

Next i said to 2 girls "thanks, you're actually really friendly".

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This is 'follow up' material, im still finding it hard to even say the opinion opener as i never have anytime to practice saying it, so now ive been pretending to be on my phone as i walk through town saying it, repeating it and getting the wording comfortable (im bad at learning lines, so took my about 15minutes to even say it properly)

Also im going to start trying to follow it up naturally after and push the convo as I feel its more normal and better for me.

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Questions

Other ways of following up on the opener without opinion Q's?

Is going into an observation about them a good way whilst being Indirect


PLEASE answer these questions and help me!!

thanks :)


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11/11/11


went out into the city and didn't open one girl let alone hook.

Probably because i slept in late and i had really low state because of it, something to do with gaming being the first thing i do when i wake up. I dont even get to warm up in general.


So I'll go out tomorrow and repeat.


Strategy

Coffee shop/ Mensclothes/ Cinema Opener

Observation AND/OR Expensive Clothes Opener.


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Random thoughts

From now on I'll only think of girls as OKAY OR ALRIGHT not SMOKING HOT DUUUUDE. I think it's kinda chodey and you create a straw-man effect in your head, make it a bigger deal than it is. NOT denying a girls beauty, just not being so fussed about it.

My one-itis. Well she's not really, its just when you get along with someone who you live with and she's the hottest girl i know too, so its just that whole closeness and attractiveness NOT any actual connection.

Also none of these feelings became apparent until she started getting with other guys. So its just jealousy etc etc. Move on, i know nothing will come of it.



Rules

I will not EMOTIONALLY INVEST in any girl, whatsoever, until i have had sex with her at least.

note Why is it that i get on with the other 8girls i live with, some who are actually quite cute but don't care what they get upto. I could get with some of them too but NO ROOM-MATES.

I will not be a guy who does what his body tells him or his emotions or energy levels. E.g. im tired im not going to go to the gym.

Im a cool social guy, im a WINNER, im where the party is at. I don't rely on others for fun.

Im ambitious and hardworking.

I do what i want according to me, not others

Im a helpful guy

Im actually a smart and intellectual guy, i dont let it hold me back from messing around.

I see sex and sexual things as casual and normal. I dont judge people on what they get upto, how often or with who.

Im a persistent person, i stick at things and work hard whilst consistently moving forward and improving.

Im positive and don't try to pull the 'cool guy' look or act too cool for people and make negative remarks about it. There is always something positive about a situation

Im motivated and determined.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:47 pm 
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Also one thing i've learnt so far is this:

If i think i'll want to learn or do something NOW IS THE BEST TIME TO START. If i had learnt this stuff back when i first heard of it, I'd probably not be in this needy mess.


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So im going to learn NIGHTGAME. Only a few days a week 2 or 3.

Also learn DIRECT in my daygame. Because i want to learn them, so i may as well learn it now, so in a years time im not like "oh i wish i could get those girls in this bar waaawaaawaaa"


Strategy

Nightgame i will:

Go out 2, maybe 3 nights a week.

Each set i open, i won't eject, i will stay in until they blow me or blow me out.

I'll learn a few openers but generally I'll move towards Shock and Awe and Apocalypse Opener style game.
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I want to learn this partly so my SPAM (and one-itis) will see that i can actually get girls and that they arent the only girls that i have to rely on socially.

Maybe a bit of jealousy or realising im attractive might go on but meh, I just dont want to be same old 'friend zoned' guy thats constantly happened to me.

Not even friend zoned, i used to just fall 'in love' with girls who Id just be friends with, they wouldnt even know i liked them.

Well not anymore!


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:51 pm 
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I haven't posted in here in a long time as my Laptop got stolen, i saw the guy and chased him about 2 blocks barefoot and topless at 3am. . . in the colest weather.

Anyway this meant i havent really been able to go on my journal or website as i barely go on the comp and i dont want people to find out about this so i cant use other peoples comps.

Anyway. . .

Ive been going out very consistently and CBA to write out every field report but i will come to the conclusions i have had in them:

1) I have on/off days. As in sometimes or a lot of the times its 1 day i can open, next day i cant. So i'll go out 5 days but only open in 2 or 3 of them.

2) i still only do daygame but i will start going to Manchester City to do nightgame 4/5 nights a week

3) My main problem with street daygame is that its not a SOCIAL area/venue so its weird trying to CARRY ON a conversation. Although this is no excuse, just something i have to accept.

4) It is okay to chat to girls in the day and many seem to enjoy speaking to a friendly guy, sharing good EC.

5) GOAL SETTING. From now on my goals are ridiculously tiny. LIke in deadlifting, it would only ever be "do 150kg for 2 reps", next week "do 150 for 3reps".

Minute goals. And they will slowly add up to big ones.

6) My nightgame will be rather vague goals as i don't want to have to handle 2 types of game to be dealing with on top of Uni, Personal projects and the Gym. It will be more like "go out and open, have a fun conversation, if it hooks close".

Then when daygame is under my belt I can focus on my nightgame from which i will already be able to open and attempt close.

7) Daygame goal: Add "thanks you're really friendly" after directions BEFORE leaving to eject and an Observation/Cold read - pre scripted or spontaineous.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:12 pm 
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25th January 2012


I had to go back home for christmas so in the small wintery town i couldnt really do game, i also felt like taking a break may allow me to come back with a fresh mind, a better perspective and new enthusiasm for game.

It did not, i don't think.

then when i came back i found it REALLY hard to get back into DAYGAME sarging. Especailly as i had:

A) a terrible sleeping habit which means i rarely wake up before 2pm.
B) I was out of routine and practice
C) Lots of uni work the teachers didn't bother to mention and had to be handed in.


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My only revelation: What I've been doing so far isn't good enough. Aiming for a 'certain amount' of girls to approach isn't a goal but a neccessity.

Its BEHAVIOURS you have to work on whilst you're out. So now i will go out with the intention on fixing HABITS rather than amounts.

E.g. frequency/time between opens, EC, vocals, follow up/hooking, BL, Leading, Commanding etc etc

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I'm also going into DIRECT purely as i don't like having to come up with REASONS and routines/questions which i really couldn't care about at all. Which also, more importantly, hinders me following up, as i feel very weird doing so.

Also if you ask for directions, some girls will do just that and walk off.

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How i will get into direct game:

open []
follow up compliment []
follow up more 'explicit' compliment (this time on attractiveness) []
now with good EC []
now with good vocals []
now with it being more of an interaction(both stopped facing each other)[]
DIRECT OPENER[]

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since the 20th december before i left, i havent had a real day out gaming since.






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SO............

Stop using numbers/amounts of girls to open as a goal, its a nessecity

Build up to direct

spend a MINIMUM of 3hours infield each time.


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30/01/12

Today i went into Manchester at night, my only goal was to SHOW UP.

So i managed to get into the city, i opened 2 girls in the street for directions to the clubs and complimented one of them


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Game Plan

DAYGAME

5 days a week.

Work up to DIRECT GAME.

Ive come to accept i can't really set 'goals' and set targets as i don't really know what happens in the interaction.

So my only goal from now on is to push it further each day or ever week. And i will decide whether its because of flirting, dominance, persistece, rapport, EC and voice.


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NIGHT GAME

4 - 5 nights a week

* I will open/make small talk with people. Push it further each time. And when im doing it well i will make decisions on how to progress. Its best to just get out and make the interactions.


EXTRA GAME

Around Uni etc i will chat them up as i go about my day. So maybe 3 girls, ill just start a convo and make convo, close etc.

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After a few months of these interactions i will begin to add in 'PUA' techniques, routines etc etc. Good to get in natural experience, as i cant do this whole techniques and tactics.


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01/02/12

Today my goal was to add a compliment after I opened because Im still a little rough.

>Open
>get the conversation going (talk about opener further)
>compliment (thanks you're really friendly)

Review

I went in town and it took me 3 HOURS to open 5 people. I still managed to use the compliment on 4 girls though. The only girl i didn't use it on was the girl who i opened and she just stared and walked off lol.


I need to open faster and quicker, i always make excuses or think too much, chicken out on the open.





03/02/12

Goal: To go out and SWITCH TOPIC, i realized this is the foundation of what you need to do after you open. Just one person will suffice.

Review

I opened 7 girls and even got the conversation going a little (only a few add on q's about the opener) but i failed to switch conversation. I added the compliment on to about 4 girls again.


*need to open quicker or at least not bail on the ones i go to open.


REMEMBER

[] open
[] keep opener going
[] compliment
[]switch topic

*this should be about 2-3 minutes all together



SWITCHING TOPIC

I could use a compliment and talk about that

I could use an opinion opener


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07/02/12

I went to Manchester, really starting to get into the groove of it all.


Goal


To approach and compliment after.

Switch topic with 1 girl


Review

I went out and approached 10 GIRLS, i complimented many of them with "thanks you're really friendly"

BUT i didnt SWITCH TOPIC, its like i freeze up and it all feels weird or something but i know i must push passed this by:

turning the OPENER into more of a conversation so im passed the AA stage

and not TURNING MY BODY LANGUAGE AWAY FROM THEM, i always try and get out, its a force of habit and nerves.


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09/02/12

Goal

To SWITCH TOPIC after the opener

To COMPLIMENT after opener

Review

I went into town and did 8 APPROACHES. 3 of them i thanked for being friendly but i still could not SWITCH TOPIC which really fucking annoyed me.

But then just as i was going to go home (on my 5th approach i think) i saw a girl, not particularly attractive but enough to open (i only approach girls who really catch my eye) and i used a situational topic switch on her accent - it was only a quick remark and a quick reply but a switch nonetheless!!!

THEN after i approached another 3 girls, 2 of which i complimented on an item of clothing - one of them being so hot that when i actually approached and saw just how hot she was, i was taken aback.

Anyway, i did a TOPIC SWITCH and it was raining during my entire sarge too.


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Tomorrow, switch again but make it last LONGER, try to use material.

Compliments again too but DONT BE EJECTING AS I DO THEM.


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Sunday 26th February 2012

Issues Addressed

- Getting back solidly into daygame
- revised goals and daygame strategy
- bootcamp
- new lifestyle improvement to be attractive


Okay since my last post i have gone out a few times but it was just university getting in the way and me falling out of place over friends coming over to stay the weekend and trying to catch up on other stuff then all of a sudden going into town sounds like a big deal in my head but im back on track

Today's goal: Show up

Which i did.

Anyway I've found out a few cool things and realised my entire approach to game was wrong. Firstly I've been reading stuff about NIGHTGAME which is entirely different to what i do - DAYGAME.

I found Sashapua and although i wanted to get to that level i cant just skip from asking directions to full blown direct.

Then i found DAYGAME.com or something like that and its actually really good as I addresses all the problems and stuff I've ran into on a normal level that i can apply, such as how to get properly opening (a thing I've actually known vaguely but never implemented).

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My weekly set times for game:

Monday - 12-5
Tuesday - Open once around Uni
Wednesday - 1:30 - 5
Thursday - Open once around Uni
Friday - 12-5
Saturday - 12-5
Sunday - 12-5

* Each day my goal is to get myself into a playful, spontainious, creative and fun STATE, through interacting with new people in a non 'typical' way.

E.g. making a joke or compliment or a real conversation rather than "hows your day" "cool. fine"

This is my new timetable that i must adhere to.

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Whilst im out my goal will be to:

OPEN
STOP (them)
MORE DIRECT COMPLIMENT

and hopefully I'll be able to take it from there. Im being vague about that part as i wont know what to do till I've got the first part sorted out.

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Bootcamp

Im applying to a DAYGAME.COM bootcamp its around £600 in london and it seems to accomplish what i need/want in terms of goals, my realistic goal ive wanted since I've joined; to be able to approach a girl, let her know whats up and go for the close.

Also i made it based on a FINANCIAL DECISION.

1 day = £2.40 train ticket

5 days a week = 5 x £2.40 = £12

50 weeks = £12 x 50 = £600.

I believe if a bootcamp can get me going direct and going for the close with girls i want then its shaved off more than a years worth of effort. it took me half a year to be able to open indirectly, god knows how long DIRECT will take.

The equation doesn't include food i eat whilst out, the lonliness of not meeting girls, the one-itis neediness i have and will have until i meet girls for real, all the graft and time.

I also see uni as my time to get to grips with women and the quicker i take a bootcamp, the quicker i can get onto the laid and relationships part. A big reason for going uni was to get game and go to the city to find a career - not even the degree haha!

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Recap

o Stick at timetable
o New goals (I'll put them up later)
o New Mindset when in streetgame thanks to a method/website that caters my need!
o New goals for in the field: to get into right state each time and being complimentary to women AND to keep escalating to opening DIRECT rather than learning INDIRECT.
o Take a bootcamp (this means I'll have to get a job to afford it as im a poor, poor student.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:35 pm 
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Hey man,

Interesting log, I noticed your at uni - do you night game at all? Perhaps you should include those journals here as well?

Also you spoke a lot about the "coffee shop opener" what is this?

How many kiss/number closes have you managed?

Check out simple pick up on youtube for more inspiration on day game.

Also, you seem to ask a lot of questions - I've found from my own journal that whilst a lot of people view your messages, very little reply. So I can recommend setting your questions outside of your journal as seperate posts to improve the response rate.

Have you read any books ect? - What have you found most benefical?

Good-luck, will be interesting to hear how the bootcamp goes!

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