THE LAST MILE
Here it is, the last page (kinda) in my journal. There's so much stuff to cover in this thread that I can't possibly do it all in one post. So there will be a few more posts going over what it is I want to go over and if anyone has any comments / observations / questions, then I will respond. But there will be no more field reports in this journal. Like I said, I've enjoyed posting in this thread. And I want to thank everyone for their feedback. In particular, I want to thank ChocolatePUA because he has been here start to finish. ChocolatePUA, if you are ever down in UK, let me know and we can definitely wing. Everybody posting in this thread has most gently and considerately told me that I need to pull my socks up and change my mentality in not so blunt terms.
And it is true.
Yeah, I'm still a virgin. But please don't think that doesn't mean there's nothing you can't take from my journal that will be useful. I have so many interactions with women, I have developed emotional rapport and sexual escalation with women, I have made out with women, and I do have SOME sexual experience with women (a blowjob that didn't go to plan - no erection but she kept on mercilessly plowing forwards regardless until I let out a small groan of despair).
I have also been rejected countless times, I have had my heart broken (a year before writing this journal)
In short, I am 'experienced', if that's the right word for it.
I could talk for ages and ages about PUA techniques and what is 'wrong' with my 'game' but the truth is that none of that applies. The real thing that is wrong with my 'game' is the mindset that I have and the unwillingness to break through certain psychological and emotional barriers.
But first I will discuss the barriers that I have, for the most part, broken through:
- Women are lazy / passive sexual agents because they do not approach men.
- Women are shallow or superficial in the sense that they are only interested in the confidence and charisma of the alpha male. Beta males provide, at best, a provider role in sexual relationships. This is to say that intelligence, looks, personality and other aspects can play an inferior role to DOMINANCE when it comes to sexual attraction.
With respect to these beliefs / mindsets I have simply grown to the conclusion that women are interested in something deeper than mere looks with regards to sexual attraction:
- Leadership
- Charisma
- Confidence
- Positive outlook on life
- Dominance
The list goes on, and the character attributes probably vary from woman to woman, but in short it is virtue of character. Wealth, status, success and looks all play an inferior role but they can contribute to the overall character development of a man. I'm not saying anything new here: you will find any decent book on pick-up says the same thing. Pick up the Game by Neil Strauss, or check out any video by RSD, they all say the same stuff. It's nothing new. There are probably ancient scripts dating back to Ancient Rome and Greece saying the same old shit. But I haven't read any of that yet.
I've had to man up and accept this simple truth just to get even a modicum of success with women and anybody reading this journal who hasn't already should do the same thing.
It's not a bad thing, it's actually good. Women like us for that raw caveman like sexual aggressiveness balanced with a kind of smoothness - the social accruity that the 21st century man needs to be successful with women, family, business and life in general. Besides, guys go for stunners, women go for hunters. We are definitely NOT in a position to call them shallow. Me, least of all (I would probably fuck someone I was emotionally repelled by just for the sexual experience).
And that brings me to the barriers that I have yet to overcome. I haven't lost my virginity yet because I have set my standards too high and too specific. It's like I've been trying to start off with a 100kg bench press rather than accept that I can only max out at 80kg.
In the mean time, rather than face the truth I've been avoiding the painful reality of that max out and just working on my push-ups, dumb-bell flies and skull crushers. All of this is in the hope that in the not too distant future, I will be able to max out at 100kg without having to get my hands dirty progessing through with lighter weights.
Maybe I will, but I'm not sure it's worth all the stress and anxiety. And it hasn't been worth the negative cynical way I've become accustomed to view women.
But I've started my course now, and I'm a fucking stubborn son of a bitch, so there's nothing that's going to stop me until I've seen it through. I don't care if my hairs are turning grey or there's nights I cry myself to sleep like a little bitch. I'm gonna keep pushing through until I get past this milestone.
My good and naively innocent nature has already been corrupted. There is only one thing to do now and that is to finish what I started: the process of character bastardisation that seems to makes women simultaneously hate and love me. It's too late. I played with fire and got burned. I could turn away and heal my wounds with water but I would prefer to fight fire with fire.
What spurred this aggressive, fighty mentality in me? I don't know. Maybe it was walking through Indian bazaars as a kid, having to ignore limbless, blinded and diseased beggars pushing their cups of loose change into my face. Maybe it was watching my mother haggle aggressive merchants and salesman down tooth and bone to the smallest rupee possible. Perhaps it was being forced into confrontational situations back home that I didn't want to be in and weren't congruent with my own naturally passive and easy going nature. The hours spent in isolation without much to do, the social rejection experienced as a kid. I don't know what triggered it all.
I won't point any fingers (the blame for my fucked up mindset is all on me) but I'm just not the same guy anymore. I'm like a stray dog, that's been nipped by other dogs, scratched in the face by cats and had cups of water thrown on it by grumpy old ladies. Now when you hand that dog a bone, it has a tendency to bite the hand that feeds it. But I'm a stray dog that's been kept clean and well nourished. Things could have been worse. I could have got rabies, gang-raped or starved until I slowly wasted away. I've found my scraps and mourcels. I've found my allies in life even though I have had a tendency to treat them with a kind of unnecessarily cautious and distanced affection. I'm grateful for every single one of them though because god knows I've needed them: psychologically and emotionally, if not for my own physical or material well being.
Without furtherado and without any more bitching about how rough I've had things, here is a list of the tips I've received, the links posted, the overview of my summary and the lessons learned the hard way since beginning this journal. It's all been a bit of an emotional roller coaster and I'm that much stronger a person because of it. I'm gonna stick with pick-up for a while, but there will be more focus on other areas of my life that need improving.
As mentioned before, these are:
- authenticity
- professionalism
- intellectuality
- physical prowess
- creativity
The way I see interactions, are no longer in terms of routines or opening lines but:
- initial statement of attraction (indirect or direct. can also be a statement of EMOTIONAL attraction: e.g. something about you intrigues me).
- rapport building and sexual escalation (calibrating the reactions of the woman and finding that balance between comfort and sexual escalation).
Throughout this, factors like touch, emotional progression, isolating the woman away from her friends (preferably with the friends' seal of approval), and moving her to different locations (eventually your or her bedroom) should come logically and intuitively.
Theoretically.
But then, what would I know, right?
A few simple conversational tools I've learned:
*Playful misinterpretation
*Neg but quickly retreat from that neg.
*Adding your own insight / personal experience or knowledge
I got this from Conquer Your Campus. I'm gonna give it my own take, though. I mainly use it for online game. The idea is that I won't have to think about it in real life, it will just come naturally.
To use some examples from online game, here they are:
The misinterpretation comes from turning around something she says in a playful manner which demonstrates you are not afraid to fuck with her reality a little bit BUT clearly communicates that you are not attacking her personally, just having a little fun. For example, one girl said on her online profile that she just wants a man to treat her right. I find this kind of gobbledy gook a bit pretentious, so I wrote:
"i know how to treat a girl properly, i'm a fucking white knight me"
In this case she replied, because she wasn't the type to take what I say too personally. Not every girl will reply to this so eagerly. Think of it as a screening test. If they can't take a little light-hearted joke, they're not worth your time.
In this case, she decides to shit test me a bit for congruence:
"Lol im afraid you'll have to prove it haha xxx"
The conversation continued:
ME (dishing a somewhat back-handed compliment): well, I'm talking to you right now aren't I? and every little princess deserves my attention
HER: Is that what you call all the girls? haha xxx
ME: only the ginger fruitloops
HER: Am I a ginger frut
HER: Fruitloop then? Xxx
ME (using a little psychological manipulation since I am now mimicking her triple Xxx signature move): Hard to determine Xxx
HER (making me work a little to turn the conversation around): How? Xxx
ME (creating intrigue): I haven't undergone an indepth psychoanalysis into your personality yet
HER: Ah ok, how do you do that? Xxx
ME: i'm not sure you want me to, i might end up stalking you
HER (she obviously wants that cold read, but in this situation, I can't really be bothered with it to be honest): why? xxx
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Ok, I'm getting away with a lot more than I would normally get away with in this interaction, but my point remains: yeah there's a bit of light-hearted negging going on but I'm making it clear that
* I like her / am interested in her
* I am interested in creating a fun interaction.
Even if it is all a little psychologically manipulative, I can get away with it because I am bringing something of value to the conversation.
The other technique I am using in this conversation therefore, is
*Neg but quickly retreat from that neg.
In Conquer Your Campus he says, for you to just say
"Oh, that's stupid"
And when she asks "why", just say
"Nah, just kidding, I actually think that's quite cool because xyz"
But as demonstrated above there are a few more subtleties involved than just this. To reiterate, there's a bit of light-hearted negging going on but I'm making it clear that
* I like her / am interested in her
* I am interested in creating a fun interaction.
And this is generally the vibe I try to create in real life. But negging doesn't always take you the way you want it to.
Last night when I went out (this is real life game, not online convo), I used a pretty standard PUA neg, which was,
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ME: Stop smoking, that's bad for your health.
HER (trying to think of something witty): Uh ...
ME (kinda retracting from the neg but in a way that's superficially complimentary and sexually advancing): I wouldn't want you to damage those pearly white teeth of yours.
HER: You sound like my dad, "stop smoking."
ME (responding to this in a way that's dead creepy): Well, that's good. What that conveys to me is that subconsciously you are looking for a paternal figure in your life.
She is already looking away with discontent but I keep plowing forwards retardedly.
ME: That daddy figure to tell you what to do, when to go to bed and ...
I can't even remember if I went ahead and said this but it was definitely on my mind:
ME: ...to spank you when you've been naughty.
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Yeah, totally dreadful, I know. But you find yourself saying this shit sometimes. Raw, caveman sexual intent conveyed without correct social accruity or calibration. Julien Blanc and Owen Cook get away with this shit but I don't.
But whatever, that brings me to the final technique.
*Adding your own insight / personal experience or knowledge
Always talk from your own insight / personal experience if you can, because this is what demonstrates that you are an experienced man of higher value. Failing that, you can 'blag' a little with the other techniques (the 'neg' and playful misinterpretation if I haven't made it clear yet have lots of overlaps and there are lots of different subtle variations of the neg). But it won't sustain a deep, meaningful conversation for very long. And focus on values / emotional escalation if possible.
I don't know what advice I can give on this, other than to become a more well-rounded, intellectual and worldly human being that has read lots of books, travelled and has lots of passions that he can talk about all day.
I have some conversations like this, but it is something I need to work on myself. The best online conversation to date is the following (sharing of insight and personal experience marked in bold):
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ME
(if you're reading this, don't actually take this advice, haha): best way to read - skip to the end. then you can say you've read lots of books and seem very knowledgeable

HER: Hahaha, that's very true. How have I not thought of that before?! :p
ME: I feel like I've just unwittingly shared a manipulation technique ... please use for good not evil

HER: Hehe, I can't promise anything... But I'll try ;p
So how are you? How's your day been?

ME: My day? I feel like I've been struck down mercilessly by the train of boredom you?
HER: Oh dear! Well hopefully today will be a bit better! And yeah, my day was alright yesterday - overslept by an hour for work though (oops!) and then had a very clumsy morning, but the rest of the day was okay! Planning on meeting up with a friend on her lunch break for a drink today, so that'll be nice

you got any plans for today?
ME
(interchange of personal experiences just begin here): ha don't even talk to me about oversleeping, I'm the king...literally. my plans today? just going to
change gym membership and dream up something else to do between then and when my barshift begins. any awesome youtube vids you can recommend? hope you enjoy your date ... any particular restaurant? Xx
HER: Hahaha, well I don't usually oversleep! Only when it's really important that I get up :p
And unfortunately no good YouTube videos - I don't really watch many videos... Do you have any good ones you can recommend?

And it wasn't a date - I used to work with her on the beauty counter before I moved to a different store, so was just catching up

) how's your day going then? Managed to find anything to fill in the time?

ME: know, I just say 'date' for everything...
meeting my parents up for lunch? It's a date. Happen to be sat next to an old man in a coffee shop? It's a date 
Good youtube vids? Seriously are you asking me to do your job for you? Nah just kidding, I'll think of a few...funny, serious or romantic? Depends what you want...but first let me ask you something:
what do you think your best friend in the whole world would say about you, your personality? I mean, if it was just me and him/her and nobody else in the world and she/he wanted to paint me a picture of everything: the good, the bad and the ugly...what would they say?
HER: Hahaha, ah fair enough - yeah, a date with a random old man in a coffee shop sounds divine

And yes, I am indeed asking you to do my job for me! Get to it! Something funny ;p
Ohh, that's a deep question for so late at night... If I am 100% completely and truly honest? I think she would say that I am a complete pushover and allow people to walk all over me, am far too generous and need to think of myself first more often and that I need to see myself in a different way because I am a very pretty girl who only sees ugliness and constantly puts myself down and worries far too much about absolutely everything. Now, I know she would say this because she has said each of these things on multiple occasions... So now that you know I'm a complete softy, don't go using me for my niceness ;p but can I be lazy and ask you to answer the exact same question, rather than repeating the question to you?

ME: Aww, now that is absolutely adorable. Ok I'll go, I know that I am clumsy and catastrophic as hell my friend/friends have told me this and apparently I am funny when I don't try to be but not funny when I try. Ok that's actually pretty critical but I am also a good person to be around since I only have fun when everyone else is, although on the flip side some people are more concerned with their own desires that they don't necessarily care how the rest of the group feels. Sometimes those are the people that get ahead in life...
Youtube vids:
Ok so if you are looking for funny it depends whether you still love the Lonely Island videos as do I, although most people have heard of those, so maybe I can recommend some pranks by VitalyzdTV (Russian Hitman and the "Do you even lift" videos are especially good but that's pretty old too)...VitalyzdTV is my favourite for pranks in general (nobody else has the same edge that he does)... Umm the killer clown 4 massacre is absolutely hilarious but cruel and scary as hell
So I'm hoping there will be something there you haven't heard of already!
HER: Hmmm yes, those types of people do tend to get ahead in life, but I think being a nice, decent person is far more important than being more successful and a real douche :p but yes, I know exactly where you're coming from with the funny when I don't try to be and not at all funny when I am - I think maybe our humour is just so evolved that other people just don't understand our hilariosity (apparently that's not a word, but it should be so I'm using it)... We're too advanced
Y'know, I don't think I've seen ANY of those videos! Unfortunately I'm just about to get ready for work, but when I can watch them I will!
There's this fairly old prank video where these people volunteer to do something in a lab but they've got this little rat-human hybrid running around and growling at them. It's funnier than I make it sound! Not sure if you've seen it, but I've got no idea what YouTube channel it's on :p
So why have you been up all night?
ME: Up all night because I don't have a workable sleep pattern right now heh Xx
That's fine though comedy is all about the presentation, if you say something and somebody doesn't laugh just look at them with a straight face and raise an eyebrow...they will soon be in hysterics. It's one of the 1.000 things I wish I could have told my 14 year old self. I hate to be a grammar nazi but I believe the expression you're looking for is hilarity
But I agree it's not the language that you use, it's a question of whether the meaning get's interpreted: slang, formal - both are acceptable modes of communication. But semicolons look real classy even if they're not being used properly. And I probably shouldn't use conjunctives at the start of the sentence but I don't care: so-called professional writers do it ALL the time
And they use commas before and. I just said that people that always try to push their way to the front of the cue are more successful but I believe Dale Carnegie would be one to disagree
Listen, I've really enjoyed our conversation so far - not that I'm wrapping it up or anything! I just feel we have some rapport going...it's a shame that you live in BLANK but otherwise if you would like to meet up some time, give me a shout.
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The problem with the above conversation is that apart from the 'best friend' question, there is very little sexual escalation or discussion of emotions / values. It is basically more like sophisticated small talk than seductive game.
You can see though that there are numerous PUA techniques being used in this convo. I can't really describe them all.
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