But if your black like me. Forget about it.

Like seriously I never thought race matter so much until I started to think about it. I been approaching women for a couple of years and have 0 success. I am attracted to women off all nationalities but I guess none are attracted black guys.

I thought its approach so I tried tons of techniques all results futile.

I have white friends that say Hi, to chicks and get numbers. Just like that.

I say Hi to them, they just stare or seem uninterested.

So I figured online would be better. 0 responses and 0 replies back.

So then I posted an anonymous ad on craigslist and results! All is well till I send a picture, then all communication stops.

Tried black girls but since I am not a "G" they just laugh me off. Black girls I went to college with only date "white guys".

White girls are only into white guys.

Asians tend to stick with themselves or date white guys.

Hispanics tend to stick with themselves or a white guy.


Then I realized not a single PUA is black. All there students are non-black. Like seriously women would rather date an obese 250 white male, than a fit and black male. Idk maybe its only here in the States. But seriously if your white you can talk to any girl and get a number pretty easily. I been approaching women for over 3 years with nothing to show. Any tips will be greatly appreciated...Approach anxiety is not a factor been doing it for 3 years. Rejection doesn't even phase me anymore. Just hoping to get some results, is it even possible? Dark skin seems to be unattractive to every girl I talk too.

Two things:

1. You have what is known as a 'self limiting belief', which drains confidence you would otherwise have if you didn't have the belief.
2. Your self-limiting belief is being fed through your confirmation bias.

That's what I suspect anyway.

Let me start this off by saying that no, I'm not black. So, I have no idea if its harder to get girls or not. It probably is harder, but I guarantee that it does not cause a one hundred percent rate of failure.

Alright, think of it this way. Your race is absolutely out of your control. It is a non-issue. You can't change it. You shouldn't want to change it. It's you. Be you. Instead of focusing on something that is out of your control, focus on something that IS under your control. There's a reason beyond your race why you are failing with women. It may be a factor, but like I already said you can't change it so don't worry about it. What you need to worry about now is making yourself the best person you can be.

All you're doing right now is complaining and complaining get's you know where. Why are you complaining about circumstances you can't control? They exist. Get over it, and start analyzing how you interact with women. You make it sound like not ONE woman ANYWHERE would date a black guy. That is absolutely not true and you know it. Stop making excuses and start changing yourself for the better. Change what's under your control.

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Serious limiting beliefs, bro.Yes, race does affect PickUp, but your being black does not have much to do with it.

First off there ARE many black PUAS

Justin Wayne
Daniel Vercetti
Tariq Nasheed
Kino Suave
..to name but a few and all are VERY good at PU.

Secondly, your looks, style and location play an important role if you are black. There are some cities where it is challenging for black guys to get a date and others where it is easy. How do you look? are you stylish, well dressed (ie- better dressed than the best dressed white guys in your city?) are you well groomed? fit/ athletic?
You need to get the basics down first, because as a blackguy, you will face stereotypes from different women and being above average in looks will take you far.

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Change your mindset, seriously.
I'm black, I've dated/messed with different races. I usually date white girls more than other races. Why? Because I fucking can.

You're putting so much on what girls want in guys instead of what you want in a girl. Be the kind of guy that will attract the kind of girl you want.
I've been called inside-out oreo by friends since I don't act like a typical black guy, it happens, but if you're not following your style, your preferences, standards, and tastes you're only going to take what you can get.

In fact if you're like me, you'll attract varieties just by focusing on your good qualities.
And since there's so many different kind of girls you can find different personalities in every race.
Maybe it's where you're at. If you're a man that likes to dress classy, you're chances to attract a girl in the hood is slim-to-robbed.
Control your what you're able to (clothes, style, game) instead of focusing on things outside of your control. The only person stopping you from dating different races is yourself.

Dude... I have two black friends (not pua's) who had several girlfriends before... And the girls were white... And my friends aren't gangsta looking. They dress normal.

Edit: Btw, there IS a black pick-up artist who's working for love systems. You need to fix your inner game.

So I just ran across this thread and I had to comment because I dealt with the same thing. I felt like women who like black guys, especially black women, want the stereotype "Tyrone" character. Women who like anything else tend to date white guys. And It seems that us black guy who are in-between are kinda' left hanging.

But what I do know NOW that ZealousR is completely right. its totally a "in-my-head" thing. Its all a "limited belief." You have to grow bigger than that thought process.

My best friend is a gorgeous female and right now is dating a guy who happens to be one of the guy who totally not a gangster. But he's been around the world, he's intelligent, he has aspects to him that make him interesting. And that's how you overcome that barrier. Grow bigger.

OK. I'm Black male.

And I will say this - The game is harder if you are black.

Do white men have advantage with women ? Yes.

To the guys who say it could the OP looks. You don't understand female mindset. A female can objectively look at a black male and agree he his handsome.....but that is a LONG way off from her saying she'll F**K him.

A handsome black males blackness will OVERRIDE his handsome-ness, so women will think "I'd like to but never would" were as a white man can be average in looks, but his whiteness will OVERRIDE his average-ness in a woman's mind, so women would be MORE open to F**KING gim.

Why ?

Because black men have a stigma on our head and that stigma is VERY unattractive to non-black females and many black females.

If an Indian woman get's with a black man ? She's GONE
If an Oriental women get's with a black man ? She's GONE
If an white women get's with a black man ? Often she's GONE

When you are a white man, as long as they are not deformed and look half way decent, the looks standard is already MET. So women look for other qualities because to most women (From my experience) if you are white you are ALREADY attractive, there is ALREADY a spark, chemistry and connection that women always talk about.

I challenge the guys who like attack this OP to go take the drug "Psoralen", it's the same drug, John Howard Griffin took in his book "Black Like Me" to see what life was like for a black man in the USA in the 50's. Take that for a few months and that will turn your skin black.

Then run the same game, same routines on women and TRUST me. You will get a very different reaction.

This does not mean being white is a ticket to women's panties, it means that women cut white men WAY more slack. They cut white men way more slack, as far as their looks go, their job and their game and their flaws.

I don't think I have EVER met or heard of a woman of ANY race say that does not find white men attractive. Sure - They may be picky about the specfic white men that they go for, but nevertheless they still find white men attractive

A lot of women just can't get past the looks of regular black men. I'm not talking black guys who model or Trey Songz, Boris Kudjoe, Will Smith....I'm talking about everyday blk guys on the street.

You can say that beauty is subjective and all that but honestly, women prefer not just white guys, but men who have Caucasoid features. This means Latinos and Middle Easterners also are considered more attractive to women than Blacks. Same goes with men - most men would take an average Spanish, Italian, or Lebanese woman over a Nigerian or Ghanian woman who represented her country at Miss World.

I've noticed that the less "ethnic" the man looks in terms of features, not skin color, the more play he gets. That goes with black guys too. So, if a guy has sharp features (like what most white men have), he'll get more attention from women than a guy who has more ethnic features independent of his skin color.

Thus if you are black man and you approach women you will get three types of reactions.

1) She will patronize you. She will have a "Who the hell is the guy ?" mentality This will happen about 20% of the time

2) She will blank you. She will not even look around. She will be cold as ice. She won't even acknowledge your existence. She won't even know you are there. This will happen about 30% of the time

And the finally you will get the most common reaction which is ....

3) She will be friendly..............but she will shoot you down when you try to take it to the next level. This will happen around 50% of the time

I did a profile on an online dating site of an average loking white dude, and the replies I got where INSTANT and across the board (Black, White, Asian).

I was left thinking "WOW !! Is this is what it's like for white men ?"

If white man has a little bit of game and swag, you should be getting your share and if you're handsome white men with his S**T together ? Man - You are a JEDI in this world.

This does not mean that black or Asian men can't get women. Hell there are whole continents to prove me wrong, it just means that white men have broader range of women to choose from.

But I have NEVER believed in all that "Black guys get the girls" "Black guys are smooth with women" that's a crock of B.S.

We live in a world were white men promoted as sexy, chaming, nice, powerful and that starts early, hell my 9 year old niece has "One Direction" and Justin Bieber posters all over her wall.

Finally this is not about me craving white women. I like all women the same. I find black, white, Asian women equallly attractive. Beauty is beauty.

So I have pretty much given up all hope of ever having a woman as part of my romantic life. So I'm just going to focus on my career.

I am white hispanic and I have a hard time picking up white girls as a matter of fact I would say that 95% of all the 217 women I fucked are Hispanic and black. As a matter of fact last time I fucked a white chick was when I was in the military years ago.

So yes I would say that being black has absolutely nothing to do with it.

If you really think you're not getting laid because you're black, come to Germany. Black guys pull SOOO much ass here (more than white dudes) because of their lack of fear and aggressiveness. Man up and don't blame your race unless you truly live in a place where people are legitimately close-minded and ignorant. If that's the case, it may be time to move.

Lol it's funny how white guys are here saying it doesn't matter. And the light skin black dudes saying the same. You're totally right OP being black defiantly changes things, especially the darker you are. But there is people like Justin Wayne and TayIsEverything that's show if you improve you're game you can get results.

I hate it when i see white or light skin black dudes say it doesn't matter they don't have any idea. America is ran by white beauty standards in media so non-black races find light skin attractive more than anything. Create a black and white guy online dating profile (of equal attraction) and see which will get a better response. Also there is plenty of online case studies done that show white males get responses considerably greater than black males.

You were on the right track for a minute but then you started looking through a one way window. As a black PUA i am going to speak from experience and what i know of scientific nature.

First and foremost lets get to the bottom line that by nature women are attracted to the alpha male and The best provider.
Second we must remember that because of black history and different cultural beliefs, black people will always be stereotyped.

Now with that said. I can speak for myself and say that yes pick up as a black man is a bit more challenging because people will always stereotype me based off of the color of my skin.
I've dated and f-closed females from almost every ethnicity, race, country, etc

And one thing i always get from them, is "you're different from the other black guys"
So in other words. They already had a pre judgement of who i was and i showed them different and thats what attracted them

So the ethnic girls who go for the white guys are most likely seeking a better provider than what the average ethnic guy can provide her

Dont just look at the color of the skin or looks. Pay attention to the man over all and you'll see theres more value to him than just looks

That is partially why im good at picking up outside of my race, because i DHV like a crazy.
Bottom line to all black pua is to get your life together and be the best man you can be and women will gravitate to you after

Come to Ohio. Here you will get laid for no other reason than the fact you are black.

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Lol what race there likes black guys? i never been there but if it's black girls than that's an of course thing.

White girls.

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