One of the things which I believe is hard for me as a man who wants to win a quality woman, which is hard now, and which was hard years ago when I was on these forums without a clear purpose is that what seems to get results goes against my values in things- not my social conditioning alone I believe but my actual personal values as I project them onto others. Male values I am referring to. I suppose underlying all of these is the golden rule- do unto others as ye would have them do unto you- and if women are different than men- and they are, well then it is all satisfied. It's just hard to believe and understand that what we hate, they like, and vice versa. Of course women know what is attractive to them and they are free to do with their bodies what they want, but under patriarchy, under the watchful eye of fathers, the values I'm going to describe had to be followed- for women's protection. If women only wanted sex, ok, but if they wanted quality marriages, then these values would have helped them achieve it, as they don't always have the best judgment when they feel infatuation/attraction. I have the aim of marriage, which is one reason I should feel little guilt- not that you need to, but for myself I am clear.

Kill the value of respect. You don't have to really respect a woman (in the same way you respect a man)
kill the value of restraint
kill so many values. Gotta be a bad boy. They don't work for women. I don't believe, as others do, that this is just social conditioning that we are fighting against, trying to keep us men down. I believe it is masculine values of honor and order and hierarchy versus feminine values of "what feels good, do it", and "seek excitement and thrill".

I am so hardcore- in my nature- old fashioned- in both my beliefs and my behaviors I want to act out- not because I expect to get something in return but because it is reward in itself, but this, when wanting to win a woman, is something (I have long known deep down) I would have to kill, to be free. Men are fools when it comes to women, but women are fools when it comes to men, without their fathers guiding them. What that means is we can fool them and attract them mercilessly. If we have bad intentions, they are fucked. If we have good intentions, they should thank their lucky stars. I'm not just talking about using them for sex because they may be using us as well, but once you know how women want and need to submit to a man's authority, and give them great sex and oxytocin chemicals, then they can be putty- male destroyers of women. But because I believe my aim is good, the best, I have to kill my restraints. I have to be "bad". Why is it so hard to be bad? It feels "wrong". It feels chaotic. But if nobody gets hurt- even if I would fear my daughter being with a guy like this, I know I will commit. I will lead her in love and even give my body protecting her but I will demand her whole body and every hole. I must be an authority, a power, break guilt, kill fear, kill guilt, kill restraint, kill inhibition. Why is his so hard? Shark is right, we have so many blocks, though I don't share his world view. We do have so many blocks. I think we all could use deeper and deeper insight and understanding, what I am going for. Since we are not women we will never fully understand them. Anyway once I catch someone quality I believe I can keep her and keep her satisfied, with great sex and oxytocin, I think she will hang on to me as tightly as she can but in order to get there, I have to destroy and kill every inner block that stops me, the need to apologize, the fear of judgment, and I'm not just talking about with women but about taking what I want from the world. Righteous authority has been demonized. I believe my crown is waiting for me. There are usurpers in power. For me it really is a war and in many ways a deep psychological war. I don't want to kill these masculine values but I have to suspend them when courting a woman, leading her to love. Double standards are appropriate when with women.