Hey guys,
So I went clubbing for the first time 2 weeks ago and have been going a lot since. One thing I've noticed is that a lot of routines/lines/openers are pretty useless in clubs since they're so fucking loud. If you do want to speak to someone, you have to scream in someone's ear, and I'm pretty sure that conveys way too much interest to a complete stranger, especially is she's an 8+.

From my experience of clubbing so far, I'd say the attraction phase in a club is mostly handled non-verbally. The way you dress, your body language, the girls you entered the club with, how you dance, who you dance with, the other guys in your social circle your smile and I'm sorry, but I think good looks and height and shit actually matter in a club (of course it's more than possible to be ugly and short and still get the girl so please don't bitch at me for saying that.)

What do you guys think??

Also I would love some tips on gaming on the dance floor, in the line to get into the club and meeting chicks walking on the street when they're on a night out.

Thanks again,
Shinobi

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I understand your problem honestly, in some loud clubs you can't have a good solid conversation very easily indeed becouse of the sound. However you can improvize your game a bit to make it les dependend on the chat aspect. Try to engage her in a physical game in a teasy way ofcourse. There are many examples of those posted around the forums. After that am quite sure she'll b in for a lil chat outside or somewhere away from the noice.
I hope I helped you out!

I completely agree with what you said in your post; in loud / noisy environment, specially clubs, words is the least important factor. The way you behave and interact with others is what builds up your value in a club. The way you approach the girl, how you stand tall, how you don't lean in - even with your friends your friends - shows who you are, and girls are master body language readers.

Agree with much of what you said - it's hard to transfer day game directly to club game for the reasons you mention. You can certainly take aspects of it though and change the rest slightly to get results without having to be good looking etc. (although obviously that helps in day and night game!)

One tactic I do quite like using on the dancefloor is to take the piss out of the girl's dancing and make it a bit of a competition type thing (competition is great by the way, one of my favourite dates is bowling because you can then tease her when you win, or have an on going joke about "letting her win" if you lose!).

But anyway, back to the dance floor - easier if she's in a small group of only two or three rather than a big group. Go up to her and say "are those your best dance moves? Wow, they're terrible! My dad could do better!" But do it jokingly, not nastily. Then I tend to imitate her moves, but over exaggerate how bad they are - usually gets a laugh. Then tell her you'll teach her a move or two, this gives you an excuse to start touching her as you move her body how you want. Then take it from there!

Doesn't matter if you can't dance - I can't! Most of it is exaggerating bad dance moves, so you're actually trying to look like a rubbish dancer. Even at the end when you're trying to teach her a move you can keep it as a goofy move, just with you directing her body to do it!

Its mostly about physical apearance and social status.
If you dance good but your not too good looking, you can still get good girls. And if you look bad and dance like an idiot, then go for the fat ones.