I have not read the Mysetery method, but the book I am reading now is "Penetrating the Secret Society of PUAs". The book covers multiple methods and the most intruiging one I've read is the Mystery method. It is less bullshit and it makes sense. NRL and things like that may work, but just seem like complete bullshit (although I am making this determination without reading much about NRL other than the few chapters in my current book that touch on the subject).

Go with the Mystery Method.

i cant seem to find the venusian arts handbook anywhere. It is different from the mystery method right and if it is does anyone know where i can find it?

It seems the ebook by mystery is no longer available...
Instead its recoomends the "updated version" called Magic Bullets eBook by Savoy of Love Systems.

Is this the same thing?
is it still recommended?

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Double your dating first. It goes over inner game a lot. It doesnt tell you exactly how to get women, but tells you what women are attracted to and if you can wrap your mind around it, it tells you why. Then get the Mystery Method, a lot of theory there. After MM, i suggest you get Mehows, Get the Girl, it's a spin off of the MM. These are all mostly theory, they have a few techniques, but knowing the theory is really important as you can just google techniques.

Magic Bullets is an Amazing book!

Mystery comes of as weird; dresses extravagantly and speaks like a psychic sometimes, so it is easier for the average man to relate to someone like DD (who wears smart trousers and a shirt most of the time). However it would be an insult to Mystery to even put him into the same catergory as DD when it comes to their respective books. First PU book I read was DYD and it is helpful if you are completely useless with women (like me). MM is a piece of genius; could have been better written (like The Game), but when it comes to pure content and effectiveness in how it deals with PU, it has much more depth than simply being C&F, which seems to be DYD main message although his thoughts on inner game are good.

has anyone read the "48 laws of power" or the "art of seduction" by robert greene? and do you recommend them?

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Eh... This thread is getting WAY too old. I think it's time to let it rest in peace.

It's pretty much the general consensus of the seduction community that The Art of Approaching by Thundercat is a really bad ebook and a waste of time. Between the two ebooks presented by the OP, Mystery Method/The Venusian Arts Handbook is the better choice.

Just to clear up some confusion related to the Mystery Method products, Mystery (Erik Von Markovik) no longer works with the Mystery Method company. That company is now known as Love Systems and is headed by Savoy (Nick Savoy). They have their own variations of Mystery's material (such as Magic Bullets) which are basically the same method with slight, probably insignificant, differences.

Mystery is currently heading The Venusian Arts, LLC, completely separate from The Mystery Method Corp./Love Systems Inc.

As for everyone who's talking about other books and products, refer to the forum rules. It's against the rules to hijack threads to deviate them from the original topic. Start new threads for that shit.