If you think Gamblers book is going to be a good read then please take a look at the back cover.
A picture of a disinterested Paris Hilton with Richard looking like he has won the lottery.
Surely any decent PUA would realise that photo isnt a DHV.

Buy the book, read it, i dont care

Good stuff this

Cowboy your very naive, gambler doesnt do it for money only. He was even selling this book for 1p at one stage. He does it to help others unlike some of the other PUAs out there, he does it for the community.

Has anybody bought gamblers inner-game installed?

No need to have a go at him dude, he posted that months and months ago

But on the subject of people taking jabs at gambler and adam lyons because there material is "beginners" etc.

Firstly, if you were to show their material to a normal guy who doesn't know what PUA game is, he would be like "WTF is this shit!"

Secondly, I can never understand why some guys, unless they are profession pua's, really hate the beginner material and want more advance stuff...doesn't it make more sense to just use material that gets girls and makes you natural.

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"Do I look like a gentleman to you in this shirt and these pants?"

"I know you from some place."

I think everyone is right in their own way.

Cowboy has a right to be angry and think that Gambler and Adam are poor PUA's, because what proof has he seen to disprove that statement?

Anyone can write a book, and the thing I have realized is a lot of books for pick-up or can be related to *body language, NLP, et cetera* is all aimed at beginners.

I'm at a point where I look at these books and go through the index and glance around to realize that I know all of this. It seems that ADVANCED books are few and far between.

But the whole point of these books are to teach you the basics, they are all THEORIES. They have not been proven, it can't be replicated with a 100% accuracy. To develop skills is a two part process starting with reading about material and understanding it, then trying it out.

You will soon push away from this basic material because as most things printed, it is outdated. You will develop your own style, and as much as I and many others want, there probably will never been a TRUE advanced book for the game or anything related. Its a learning process, reading is memorization, you got to practice it to truly get it.

So I agree with Cowboy that we should see more proof of these mPAU's and not random people giving thumbs up but videos or in person. But at the same time, I think he should calm down and accept the fact that we were ALL newbie's once and would have killed to have someone take us by the hand and help us even a little.

~Stjimmy

Let me take you through marketing 101 dude.You give away a product to get people on your mailing list and to up sell.
Why did gambler go on Dragons Den if he wanted to help PUA's?
He went on there because he wants a media career and my beef with this is that his book is shit. His courses wont teach you anything , and people coming new into this actually think that to get good they have to read everything and go on courses.

You dont, you just need to go out and do it yourself and find your own stlye.
And going further into this, Gamblers book is a complete re hash of the game and very naive in its writing.

Hi Cowboy, why don't you ask me WHY I do things instead of trying to guess. I am right here. You are way off on everything.

The only point that you are welcome to is your view of my book. I didn't expect 100% of people to like it, it's tough to please everyone, and that's why there are 10m books out there not just one, I'm sure you can find plenty you like.

Because i dont need to. Its a business. No one is so altruistic that they don'd work for money.
I dont see any videos or you picking anyone up. I dont see any success stories other than a few people leaving your bootcamps saying they got a phone number, and then most likely falling back into the same old patterns

What i do see is a book with your own face on the front. TV opportunities and you hanging out in high end London clubs with Z list celebrities.

I have nothing against you running a business i just dont buy into marketing and fail to believe that you know what you are talking about.

Your stealth attraction is the kind of stuff that sounds like it should work but in reality has absolutely no chance of working in a club and i havent found anyone yet who has actually used it and got results.

There you go, you asked

I thought the book was really interesting at points and painfully self indulgent at other points by the writer. Its a good kicker book if your wanting to get into the game, its not at well written as the game or as in depth as the mystery method but i got mine for 1p so i cant complain.

Im not so sure what i think of his most recent stuff but am thinking about checking out one of his seminars down in London. I've got him on Facebook as well and there are a fair few photos there that may satisfy those AFC's who need to see visual proof about how good Gambler is.

Quite simply i would say that i feel that the whole community is saturated by a competitive advertising media slant. So i recommend his book as a quick read but PLEASE have a look at older material so you can have a grip on where this all developed from.

Regards, Saint

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gambler is like god to me nw... i watched his videos in 8 tabs and almost 10 times through out... and i am preapered for my kiss coming up with another date,,, not to mention i have almost screwed a date with this girl and had to almost beg for another one... (am not gonna let you leave b4 u kiss me baby)... Greatfull to Gambler and always a faithfull student..CARD

Although being a major AFC, I've never had difficulties with women, even before getting to know the community or any kind of material.
I live in Brazil, where girls seem outgoing for foreigners, but they have the hardest bitch shield to break considering all the countries I have ever been to (it is at least 10 times harder to have a f-close here with a complete stranger than it is in England, for instance). Unless you are famous and wealthy, you have to struggle.
I haven't read any of Gambler's book, but just seen a couple of videos which were sent to me through Brad.
I tested them on the field right away and they were miraculous! I was able to f-close a complete stranger I met on a bar right away and a girl I used to see, but could never f-close. I am not sure about his other techniques, but the little I have seen from his method worked wonders and sounded pretty real-world (since a lot of things I've seen doesn't).
The material I've seen has the same basics shared with MM or so, but it seemed to be on a further level.

Surprised this thread hasn't closed yet ~ But I really enjoyed reading this book. It was the first book that I've read all the way through (on my own will), and has been the lighterfluid to my newfound hobby ~ an addictive one I might add. But ever since I've joined the community, reading has been much more exciting for me and has given me a lot to look forward to.

Sure, "The Natural" offers a lot of basic theories and strategies for Aspiring PUAs to follow, but they should be used primarily as a 'guideline' in which you follow to develop YOUR OWN style. Like Style mentioned in "The Game," he later realized that Mystery and him were going around the world and making 'clones' of themselves. As PUAs, we should adopt our own style of game.

However, these basic rules/strategies/theories (whatever you may call them) should not be underestimated as simply being 'basic,' but as FUNDAMENTALS that we can always fall back on. Like sports, we all start with the fundamentals of the game. Once we master these fundamentals, we move on ~ and eventually adopt our own style, which makes each of us unique as individual PUAs ~ but we all started somewhere.

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Sorry for the late post. I'm new to the Game and only recently read Gambler's book.
Exactly, this book is really good if you want to improve your conversation skills.

I think Cowboy is wrong. Gamber offers a new insight into certain areas of Game. For example, the tips about conversation in the book CANNOT be found in MM or other books that advocate canned crap. Gambler specifically recommends that we have the ultimate goal of becoming a natural - different approach to MM

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Failures are sign posts on the road to achievement.

It's a great book, worth the $10 I spent on it.

and I consider myself "advance"