| Hey guys.
I actually wrote this review about 2 days after I attended the bootcamp but I've been busy with other stuff in my life and I'm only just posting it now. This is going to be an honest review of Kezia Noble bootcamp that I attended a few months ago in London. Kezia used to work for Gambler's pua training before she started up her own company. Just a bit about current position and experience. I've been doing a lot of reading for a few months now. Only very recently have I gone out in the field. I've done only a few approaches in the daytime. I haven't approached in nightclubs (I usually don't feel comfortable there) and I've found the women to be cold there. HOWEVER, I do go to a social event (which is held in a bar by the way) every week. A lot of very attractive women go to this event and it is notorious because around 70-80% of the guys are solely there to find a girlfriend and these guys are truly the masters of pick-up. I do have a massive advantage over the other guys (I won't tell you what the advantage is). I've must of made 100s of approaches over the year but I had only limited success with women.
What I wanted to get out of the bootcamp was how to get rid of daytime approach anxiety (too often I've seen women at at the tube station and in supermarkets and I wished that I had the ability to strike up a conversation with them), how to make my conversation more interesting (I used to be painfully shy - I'm much better now but still shy and my conversations tend to be very succinct and straight to the point) and how to sexually escalate (I do not know how to do this especially how I've been fed the crap throughout my life about not viewing women as sex objects). The reason why I chose Kezia's bootcamp over other bootcamps was that most pick up artists like Gambler or Adam Lyons are full of bullshit, make exaggerated claims about their success with women and often incredulous statements about women. I felt that Kezia would provide and honest perspective into the female mind and both she and and her sister Hadassa (who works for Kezia) and very typical London girls. I had also seen a lot of their material online on her website and on youtube so I had a good enough idea of what she and her team are about. For £350 for a 12 hour course of which 5 1/2 hours are infield practice, I felt this course was good value for money.
My heart sank when I first learnt of the location of the bootcamp (I was told of the location just a few days before the start of the bootcamp). It was just off Regent's Street. As a Londoner born and bred, I knew that Regent's Street and Oxford Street would be the most difficult places in London to sarge. There are definitely better places to sarge in London. The vast majority of the people on Oxford Street are incredibly busy shopping and/or are tourists. They wouldn't be too pleased to have a random stranger stop them for anything longer than a half a minute.
Anyway, the day started with introductions from Kezia about what the day would be about and a bit about herself. After which Mark J (billed as the approach anxiety destoryer by Kezia on her website) gave a talk. I'm sorry to say this but Mark J looks shorter and not as attractive (sorry!) in real life than he looks on the videos. Seeing him initially gave me more confidence. If he can do daygame and get lots of women then surely I can do this. Mark J gave us a structure as to how to do daygame. It actually made me much more nervous about doing the daygame infield practice that afternoon because I wasn't going to remember all that information. In truth, I was actually disappointed at his talk because he didn't say anything which wasn't already on Kezia's website. Next up was Ali. Ali has a legendary reputation. Ali's game is based around being sexually direct and humour (two peronality characteristics which I'm insufficient in). Ali gave us two methods of stopping a woman (The second method was bizarre). Now, I stop women a lot to ask for directions in London (I can even get a woman to take out her earphones to give me directions). I do not use Ali's methods of stopping someone. I wonder whether his method is more effective than the way that I do it. Ali did provide a structure but his was spiced up with a few cocky lines and tips. After the talks, we had the the daygame infield practice. There were four coaches (there were 9 students on the bootcamp) - Mark J, Hadassa, Ali & Johnny Cassell. First we started with a few warm ups (ie asking for directions and then progressing). But after I asked for directions I could not progress the conversation. Then our coach told us to approach direct. He just pointed out women and told us to approach. But whenever I approached directly, I was blown out every time (every time I communicated interest). I got a few "thank you"s and then the women just walked off. Others just walked off (at the very point I said that they were beautiful). He then gave us an example of what say but it was quite lengthy and difficult to recite (and I also felt what he said would only work in a few limited situations). The feedback I got was about body language, to smile and he also suggested the negative reaction could be things due to speed of voice, tonality and a lack on authority in my voice (he did not hear any of the conversations I had with the women and he was often very far away). The blowouts and negative reactions damaged my confidence a lot. I felt that this was not going to work - women just find direct street approaches creepy. I do not believe that the feedback I got (from the approach coach) was correct. And anyway, if it was down to things like tonality, voice speed and body language - wouldn't it have been better to practise with each other before going out into the field???? (rather than listening to two talks. They could of just given a handout instead). That would have, at least, increased my confidence.
At this point I was highly demoralised. I was ready to quit game altogether and give up finding a girlfriend. We returned back to base, where Kezia gave her talk about nightgame. I have to admit that I did feel more positive after her talk. She gave some useful insights about what's goes through a female mind. She was suppose to talk about her 10 hook lead system and deep connection but she didn't. I'm glad that she didn't because I've read her book and am already familiar with both subjects. Craig Phoenix spoke up next. I felt that he was a great motivational speaker but his talk lacked content and it actually contradicted what some of the other speakers had to say. Due to time constraints Johnny's and Simon's talk were curtailed. Johnny spoke after that but again most of what he said is already on Kezia's website. Simon Satz spoke after that about sexual escalation but I wasn't convinced by what he had to say.
Anyway, the group headed of to Tiger Tiger about 8 (Tiger Tiger is a popular bar/club in central London and is also seemed to be populated by wannabee puas). The coaches for the nightgame were Ali, Johnny Cassell, Hadessa, Simon Satz and Rupert. Only Ali, Rupert and Simon provided coaching for me. We had split into twos and threes and went around the club with our coaches.
Ali gave me and my wing an (somewhat humorous) opening line/routine to use. I was not confident of using this because I didn't think it was that funny or appropriate. I saw Ali open pretty successful twice and get a good response. Unfortunately I couldn't hear what he was saying although he did tell me what he said on the second set. He then showed me some sets and told me approach (although my wingman went into the set with me, he seemed to act independently from me). I tried my own thing (mainly because I couldn't remember the teaching they provided earlier in the evening - if there had been any teaching). I didn't get very far. I had a word with Ali about what to do in which he replied to remember what we have been taught. I then asked him if he could show me again how to approach and engage a set. He replied by saying he couldn't because he had already approached hundreds of sets that evening and he told me if I remember the girl who was ready to go to the toilet to have sex with him. I didn't remember this (I wish I had). Again, Ali wasn't near enough to provide any sort of feedback about what we did right or wrong. I didn't like his attitude. I don't think he could help could me, as for one, his personality is totally different to my personality and I was glad when I moved on to the next coach. We moved onto Rupert.
Rupert told us to warm up by opening sets indirectly. I had quite a lot of success with method which increased my confidence a bit. I found the girls very friendly and pleasant - I wasn't expecting this. But honestly, it was no different to the way I open at the social event I usually go to and the interactions are similar as well. He then asked us to go in directly. I had the same results as I did in the dayime. I just got blown away every time I communicated interest. I asked Rupert if this was purely a numbers game. His response was duh! of course this is a numbers game. I don't believe this is a numbers games, I just didn't think approaching this directly works. We asked Rupert to show us how it is done. He then proceed to grab a girl, spin her around into his arms without saying anything. Simon was the final trainer to coach us. He seemed like a good guy. I told him what happened about approaching directly. He told us to approach semi direct (saying something like "you are fun and friendly and I had to come and say hello". I would agree that it's better to open something like this. With the first girl he approached, he kinoed very quickly and playfully trying to kiss her although he didn't get very far after this. It was interesting to see him how he sexually escalates. He was also shut down by a few women. Although Simon provided many good tips I would have to say that one of my good friends is exactly like him. I didn't really need Simon, I could have just gone to a bar with my friend.
Overall, I was thoroughly disappointed at the bootcamp. I felt that I didn't improve on anything and, if truth be told told, I went backwards. In terms on knowledge - I got very little. Right now, I don't really know where to go from here. After this experience I doubt very much the efficacy of pua methods. I would like a long term girlfriend but I feel that goal is outside my control.
I welcome any feedback you have and also where I can go from here.
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