Chief's Online Mentorship Review



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 12:07 pm 
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"I am missing words. Really. Chief, your program is beyond my dreams, and really effective and I think you are a great teacher."

I wrote that after 29 days in chief’s program. It was the morning after I had two same night lays one on Sunday and one on Monday. I achieved my initial goals. I was just so happy when I wrote that. It really worked! You probably know the feelings after a lay or a cool night out. I was really enthusiastic! Also, I was still curious about Chief’s teaching methods. But then I had the answer: works well.


Before signing up, I didn't know Chief at all. Just his posts. From what he wrote, like his review of 60 Years of Challenge, I was very interested and quickly thought "I am in" on his program. I applied and paid in advanced. I lingered just a bit, what if this is a scam. Shortly afterwards, I was a relieved: He is the real deal!

I was very happy that he is indeed very experienced in pick up and a role model to learn from. He is also an excellent teacher in my eyes. The only thing I needed to do is put in real effort and and it will get me results, in other words the mentioned lays. Both same night lays! With the second girl I applied the feedback I just received from Chief that very same day in the morning. Cool!

I got access to short workshop clips from chief (part of the program) and noticed that Chief can act very cool and confident. A good vibe. I could see why girls would fall for him. It's also the "good guy" way to becoming a pickup artists, as I later learned. He cares about people, cares about relationships, currently has a girlfriend. Hew seems like having a great life, not some pickup nerd. He can teach and his students get results, from what I have seen.

Why this program? You can't really learn pick up from videos and books. It is inefficient. Imagine it’s martial arts. You need to learn from someone how is good at it. A real "master" or trainer. Someone who looks at what you do and tells you your sticking points. I was totally unaware of the real problems and the priorities were. I said: "how do I get better at cold approaching?". Chief said you are already quite okay with that, but you need to focus on this and that (things like a clean room for lays, more cool friends, better clothing / shopping for clothes with girls). I didn't expect that. Another reason for Chief's program was that in my location (Austria) there are little options for a bootcamp, and 2000-3000 bucks plus an expensive flight is insane for a boot camp. Chief's program works for the whole world.

What I'd say the main key point was that I learned is how to really apply stuff in my game. I knew a lot of points from Chief's outer game guide but couldn’t apply it. I was hoping for a lot of personal time with Chief and this is a great part of the program, with regular SPAM sessions. With today’s technology it is much easier to learn via distance, with things like smart phones, skye, voice recordings, etc. For instance chief suggested to play him voice recordings of me opening girls, so he can give specific feedback. One point was that his outer game guide mentions to start a conversation with a handshake. Before the program I didn't field test it, I was skeptical, but it does work very well. When Chief explained via SPAM, it was easy to to understand, as he thought the concept behind and compliance in general. Also, there are much more possibilities in SPAM sessions, like asking specific questions.

Lastly, In the past I learned from different sources (books and videos). I can definitely assure you that learning via a coach like Chief is exponentially more effective! I wish earlier in my life I had the option to get in the program and fix that part of my life. From my experience the program is blast. In general I can say that Chief’s material is really effective.


At the moment, Chief’s mentorship program is not open for new applications.

However, I there is a cheaper alternative, a new program called Seductive Introvert. I had access to it, and it the same amazing stuff thatI learned, it teaches the same principles, but in a more structured way.

I definitely recommend to enter the program for one month, as this way you get the book Attraction Arsenal and the first month of the program, both for just 37 bucks.

Furthermore, you can write Chief an email with your personal questions! This is key!

In my eyes Chief’s current program, Seductive Introvert, works also very well for more extroverted people like me, although it includes special tips and is tailored for introverted people.

I summed up key points what I learned, so you get a picture what the online program I took is about. Please note that this is a review of Chief’s Online Mentorship program, although the principals are the same and the content is very similar to Chief’s current program.


A FEW KEY POINTS THAT I LEARNED SO FAR
(there are more, but these stood out a lot to me)

1. Focus on the very core and essential principles of pick up. It’s like like a martial arts thing (“the water becomes the cup”). If it is not the most efficient way, it’s not good enough. If you can take something away and still get amazing results, it is not good enough. Focus on the core principles and focus on why they work.

2. Don’t do any routine based game. None! I started from “the Game” book that teaches routines. Now, the focus is only on the principles why routines work. I got lays with that. I didn’t want to let go of routines. Now I see that routines are bullshit. Some suggestions on how to handle a shit test are okay (shit test, use the claw and say we would never get along).

3. Do the missions. Start with the newbie mission. In the program there are many missions to get you starting. By doing them you learn various outer game tricks. Like getting/being in a good state, using state transfer for attraction, get compliance, get numbers, give value without expecting anything back, using emotions is story telling, etc. The mission are cool, because they give structure in the absence of routines. In field my brain remembered stuff from the missions, just at the right time. An inner game mission was to describe things why a girl is attracted to me, like positive attributes. There was a situation like “who is cool” and I said I am cool because an idealistic, I help people, etc. Another mission was to describe the best friends and what I look in a woman. At one point I ran out of topics to say and then I just talked about those topics. [The missions are also part of Seductive Introvert] ]

4. The compliance ladder. In the beginning my sticking point was to get compliance and to effectively get phone numbers. Compliance is a very strong part of Chief’s approach. So much in Chief’s game is about the “nice guy” way in PUA. But this is badass! It is the missing link. In some way, you get the girl to do what you want. It is effective, it is universal, it is easy to do and it multiplies the results. It works verbal, can be used for escalation, etc.. However, I did so many mistakes in the beginning. In the heat of the actions, I forgot to do compliance. That’s where I needed several SPAM coachings from Chief, he gave me new tips every week and I am quite good now. Example: I saw a video from the RSD crew where they drag / lead girls to different location. Then I go in my mind: okay, that’s one way to do compliance. It’s a great model. I get the principles behind the what works. If it goes wrong? A clear process: one step back on the compliance ladder, do three things and try again. [see chapter “The Compliance Ladder” of Attraction Arsenal.]

5. Touch girls more. In my mind, I thought I already did tons of touching. But the feedback was: do much more! Do as much and quick as possible without getting weird. One girl told me I did go so far so quickly, she almost wanted to slap me in the face. But it did end in a same night lay. [see the last chapter of Attraction Arsenal]

6. Have a positive, loving vibe. Have the “don juan” frame (from johnny depp
movie). It’s genius, get inspired (in state) by beautiful woman. Give them compliments, focus on the postive things (“you have a beautiful voice”). Get people addicted to your positive way, let them feel positive around you.

7. Don’t avoid something you want to do. I thought I want to say “hi!” to a girl. It was simply a warm up set. But in my mind it goes: “this is a metro station!” amd “she is with a good looking guy! what do I say”. No excuses! Just do it if you want to do it. Shit. How? Am I really able to do this? So I befriended the guy, cool guy actually, but “just a friend”. Took her number within minutes. Wow! Met her again and it became a same night lay. A cool feeling that you can cold approach a girl in the metro, which leads to lay. Yeah! It’s so much more motivating, if you get results for your efforts.

8. Get out of your comfort zone. Chief told me some stuff to do and I did it in the end. It felt so good! I loved the when often times got a lot of social momentum from it.

9. Then I was happy with my “outer game”. I wanted more! But then Chief said: Inner Game, from now on we focus mainly on Inner Game. It’s the most important part in PUA. The real you always shines through. I can’t tell you much about this, as I am still learning. The inner game stuff is genius for work, too. If all hell breaks loose, like missing deadlines, etc., you still need to be very positive and confident in yourself. [the Seductive Introvert program starts with inner game right from the beginning]

10. Social skills. There are also tips on how to win friends. I remember one situation at work. I had to take a difficult decision at work and a guy was than pissed about the situation. Later I needed his help in a different. In the past I wouldn’t have called him again probably, but I did and said “hey, I feel really bad about that situation that happened. Can I invite you for lunch, or if you like that better a few drinks? Later I said “.. and a second questions, I would need help with this..”, I mentioned a high per hour rate he would get and he said, yes sure, just text me in advanced and we arrange it.

If you have any questions, please ask me.


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