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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:45 am 
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I have read many post on here talking bout how u don't have to listen to women n I wanna try to cover this matter.
How do u expect someone to be comfortable with u when ur not ever listening to them?
I think it's really important to listen to women because that way u get more things to talk bout n chances of running out of things to say is less likely, u can get attraction n comfort with someone just be listening n I also thing a good lover will be able to listen to the women's body.. I will like other people who disagree opinion on this matter because I really believe that listening is an important way to get someone comfortable n attracted.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:28 am 
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new guys should generally listen less than they normally do but rather have attractive things they know to talk about.

as you get good with woman you can listen more to gain rapport as needed.
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I really believe that listening is an important way to get someone comfortable n attracted.
you really need to know the difference between comfort and attraction, they arnt at all the same thing even though new guys think they are synonymous.


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I have a pretty good idea on what they are.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:12 pm 
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When I started pickup I use attraction getting line on every girl I talked to and cause of that I wasnt successful a lot cause some of the girls that I got into a conversation with actually liked me already till I go in with my crocky funny lines, negs and etc. most new guys do those things and when u do those things u expect a certain reaction outter the girl and if u don't get that reaction u fall and become sumassive.

I think that everyone should listen.. Most guys who learn tons of materials on attraction usually come out minutes later cause they ran out of things,they got stuck in their head, or their approach was too aggressive and the girl felt uncomfortable.
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When I started pickup I use attraction getting line on every girl I talked to and cause of that I wasnt successful a lot cause some of the girls that I got into a conversation with actually liked me already till I go in with my crocky funny lines, negs and etc. most new guys do those things and when u do those things u expect a certain reaction outter the girl and if u don't get that reaction u fall and become sumassive.

I think that everyone should listen.. Most guys who learn tons of materials on attraction usually come out minutes later cause they ran out of things,they got stuck in their head, or their approach was too aggressive and the girl felt uncomfortable.
Any guy who is socially adjusted.

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loveu18 is exactly right. In my opinion listining is the most important factor in getting girls. If you were talking with your friend and all he did was talk bout himself wouldn you be annoyed? I dont understand why anyone would think its any diffrent with women.


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^^ +1

And remember he tied listening to rapport, which is not attraction, and most of you new guys need to focus on attraction - not rapport.


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loveu18 is exactly right. In my opinion listining is the most important factor in getting girls. If you were talking with your friend and all he did was talk bout himself wouldn you be annoyed? I dont understand why anyone would think its any diffrent with women.
If that was the case every man would be getting laid 10x a day. Its not. Listening is an important part in developing rapport because that way you will discover more about her that you can re-feed and speed up the rapport building. Not because you give a shit about what she has to say (assuming it aint your GF we're talkin about)

Are you really going to listen when she starts yabbin about her EX or her girlfriend who's havin such horrific periods? Hardly. Instead, you're gonna cut that shit out and take leadership of the interaction and steer it in the direction you want.

The moment you start being a girls shrink is when you start to slide into the friend zone.
Actually listening has nothing to do with getiing put in the friend zone. the diffrence between comfort and attraction is caused by us, in other words we put ourselves in the friend zone. we talk to the girl and the conversation goes well but because we never tell her our interest in her, she thinks we just want to be friends so she puts us in the friend zone which is also why people gets flakes alot. most people would not be a man and tell them they want there numba because there interested in them, instead they lie and make some excuse of why they want it. when you tell them your interested in them and then ask for their numba you will only get the numba if they are interested back. also when you lie she thinks you want to be friends which is putting yourself in the friend zone, so when you start showing interest shes creeped out cuz she didnt like you like that which is why you should flat out tell her when you ask for her numba, tell her your interested in her, dont say u like her cuz your gonna scare her. also a tip, dont hit on friends, all you do is lose friends when you hit on them, keep your friends and potential girlfriends seperate. besides if she only likes you as a friend then fuck her use her to get other women, ask her to hook you up with someone she will help, girls love to help with that kind of shit.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:33 am 
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I have read many post on here talking bout how u don't have to listen to women n I wanna try to cover this matter.
How do u expect someone to be comfortable with u when ur not ever listening to them?
I think it's really important to listen to women because that way u get more things to talk bout n chances of running out of things to say is less likely, u can get attraction n comfort with someone just be listening n I also thing a good lover will be able to listen to the women's body.. I will like other people who disagree opinion on this matter because I really believe that listening is an important way to get someone comfortable n attracted.
women love good listeners. One way you can reel women in is to remember a couple small details about their lives , and days or weeks, or months later , ask about it. for instance; If her dog was sick In June, find out what his name is and in August ask how he is or something like that.

One thing I've done sometimes is act like I am listening in a loud bar. A lot of it is jibberish but typically I can pick up on what is important to them by their body language and store it in my memory for the next time I see them.


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