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Are you willing to try the diet for 10 days?
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@PUA Lucky what specific foods did your diet mainly consist of? Are oats okey to eat?


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@ MotownSoul,

Never heard of the gersen therapy but there is NO need for enemas. Actually, DONT do enemas if you're doing this diet.
Also, juicing is expensive yes. But after trying it I learned that is not needed. It is the same to eat raw veggies. The only thing juicing did for me was learn how to "chew" properly. Before I use to chew fast and swallow fast, no homo : ) But after juicing I chew fucccckkiiiiinnnnnnngggg slowly.

btw, is occasional cursing bad in this forum? umm, looks like somebody needs to read the rules

I'm not saying to this or do that, or claiming to know what is beneficial for anyone in regards to my last post....I was just stating that the diet you have been talking about, is almost identical to the Gerson Therapy/SPAM.......You should really check it out and learn some stuff about it, as well as the doctor, Dr. Max Gerson.....He was a brilliant man who cured several people of their illness, including some types of cancer, by means of a strict diet change....He was later frowned upon by the medical community for offering a "magic cure" so to speak, which if embraced, and worked as well as he, and his patients claimed, would have crippled the medical industry as we now know it......Again, I'm not a doctor, scientist, or know it all, and I'm personally not on a diet myself....Just pointing some things out that relate to your OP, and reminded me of when I stumbled across the information about Max Gerson on youtube...look into it.


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@ Rushin,
Fuck OATS, those are cereal grains
My diet consists of every vegetable known to man, except red shiny apples (they add casein to make shiny) bananas (the have been breed to be sterile, nobody I know have said that's bad for your health but I believe it doesn't help)
My daily diet consist of mostly starchy vegetables (potatoes, carrots, sometims beets)
Then mostly vegetables
then SOME fruit (as in 1 a day or noone)
caloric intake usually 1200 or less....usually less

Keep in mind, NEVER eat GRAINS or DAIRY...that's the main thing
saying that, almost ALL proccess food has GRAINS or DAIRY : )
life's a bitch, and then you die hahaha

@MotownSoul,
Gotcha, I will research it....
my bad if the reply i send sounded assholy but im in a bad mod cux i have to take three exams next week..... FML

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No worries bro


Could you give a little more detail on what your daily meals are?

I mean, you just mentioned what you do and do not eat...but, say on the average day, what do you have as your meal for breakfast lunch and dinner..obviously vegetables, but can you describe the portions of your meals?

I'm thinking about doing this, starting next week when its time to go back to the grocery store


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@ MotownSoul,

ALL OF THIS FOOD I EAT RAW (some raw vegans heat food up to around 110F, but to me that's stupid, I eat all food at room temperature)

Example of a day in my life:

BREAKFAST
Whole potato
one bowl full of cabbage


SNACK
A pear, or a none-glazed green apple (make sure not to eat the sticker of any fruit because it also contains casein)

LUNCH
Whole potato
A salad (tomato, lettuce, onions, NO SALAD DRESSING OF ANY KIND)
I want to clarify that I only eat FRUITS AND VEGETABLES RAW. Nothing else. No salt, no dressing, no sauce, no nuts, no grains, no legumes, etc. ONLY vegs and fruits raw...and ONLY water

DINNER
4 medium size carrots
4 celery stalks

And for the water, I always try to squeeze lemons in it...
sometimes I make cilantro juice (not the cilantro you buy in a bottle to spice your food, but the cilantro you buy in the vegetable aisle that rots in like 3 days)

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There are several reasons why many people should take certain supplements. Not in any particular order:

1. Many foods simply do no have the amount of nutrients that they once had. Lots of research in this field.

2. "Food In" ≠ Nutrients assimilated. Many people lack proper levels of various enzymes. Some are genetically predisposed while others suffer from environmental influences. Either way, supplements will help.

3. Accepted levels of nutrients 'needed' are is a vague idea. The current level of Vitamin C 'needed' as suggested by the FDA is the amount of vitamin C that they deem necessary to avoid scurvy. Vitamin C, as well as most vitamins, have multiple benefits. For example, In higher doses, Vitamin C is often used as a chelating agent of heavy metals.

4. The all vegetable diet is sorely missing some essential nutrients, mainly, the healthy fats. Again, the levels 'needed' are often misunderstood. Healthy fats are commonly known to support heart health and balance cholesterol levels but more than that, healthy fats are the building blocks for your cells. Your brain is in fact a big glob of fatty tissue. It's a good idea to support it.

Finally, although general guidelines are a good idea, ALL PEOPLE have different nutritional needs. I'd urge you guys to research more, follow some guidelines, and experiment with your diet/supplements as opposed to going all in on a strict diet just because it seems to do well for somebody else.

Again, the general idea behind the OP's suggestions is a vast improvement over the typical American diet.


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@PUA Lucky do you ever eat meats in this diet?


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@ Rushin,

I don't eat meat, but feel free to do so. I just don't do it for other reason, and also because it's hard to find a good steak/barbecue sauce with no gluten or casein.

But make sure you DONT eat any kind of meat in the 10 DAY TRIAL

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Got a bit confused in the thread in regards to potatoes, beets, and carrots be allowed or not. I really would love if there was comprehensive list of allowable veggies. Also are fruits allowed during the first 10 days or only afterwards. I've been throwing small amounts of goat feta in my mix for the 3 days I've been on the diet, and now I'm guessing that's not allowed considering dairy is not allowed. Also how about vinaigrette as a salad sauce, allowed or not cause I've been having that too? As well how about protein rich veggies, are there any you suggest. Thanks.

P.S. mother has gluten/dairy allergy, might be a family thing.

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@ DA,
I hope you're not being sarcastic - _ -

@ K1NG,

1) For the 10 days, DO ONLY VEGETEBLES...NO FRUiTS, NO SALAD DRESSING, NO VINAIGRETTE....just vegetables and water...no if and or buts

2) after the 10 days, you do have to maintain a healthy diet to keep feeling great. this is not a one time thing. the 10 is strict to make you feel better faster

3) NO DAIRY EVER, not before, during, or after the 10 day TRIAL...fuck milk

4)After the 10 day diet, you want to maintain a slighly high starchy diet. Starch food are grains (rice, pasta, bread), potatoes, carrots, beats. THE WHOLE POINT OF THE DIET IS TO AVOID GRAINS, so to maintain a slighly starchy diet AFTER the 10 DAY TRIAL, you want to eat plenty of potatoes, carrots, or beats.

5) for the 10 day trial, dont worry about protein. after 10 day trial, don't worry about protein...every vegeteble/fruit has protein...but the most are potatoes and broccoli...but these whole "YOU NEED PROTEIN" to survive is bullshit in the sense that there has NEVER been a protein defiency. All foods have protein. The only way to have a protein defiency is to eat around 100 calories and day and work out like a pro...in other words, dont trip about protein...that's just marketing bullshit in everyone's brain

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This thread has insanely unhealthy advice! Please DO NOT follow it for even 10 days!

Advising people to eat grains and starchy food? I'm not perfect when it comes to these, but I eat fuck all. It's basic biochemistry. These are the LEADING cause of heart disease and so many other illnesses.

The staple part of our diet for millenia has been vegetables and fatty foods (saturated fat). This is a fact. A diet of this sort is FAR more effective than the diabetes diet, far more effective than any weight loss diet, and just all round makes you feel great and more productive.

Paleo nutrition all the way, baby!


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@ Pinocchio,
If you would have read carefully, this thread is AGAINST grains. I know how unhealthy they are...Also, you will see that grains are wayyyy more unhealthy than what you think

I'm 100% glad you are against grains!

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Hey guys, read this thread a few days ago and just started this diet today (with multivitamins) but am having second thoughts because I have exams for the next 2 weeks and am reconsidering to do it after my last exam which is on the 17th.

I just wanted some feedback from those who have already tried the diet. How did it go? Did you also show signs of sickness/insomnia the first 8 days and feel amazing the last 2? I'm asking because it seems some people have tried it in early November but have not posted since. There also seems to be people who think the idea is stupid, and I would like them to continue supporting why they think so. I'm leaning towards attempting this diet (after my exams) because the people who claim this diet was a bad idea have generally either not read the entire thread yet, or have not made an argument that I deem to not be strong at all.

Thanks for the help.


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Wouldn't this destroy your social life? Do you just not go out to restaurants or bars? Also, I can't imagine pulling this off with Christmas and New Years coming up.


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I wouldn't really have a social life during exam times since I'd spend most of my time studying.

I go to one of those universities where the top students from all over the province/country go to. Essentially, the only way to do well is if you spend the majority of your time studying. The only social life I have nowadays is studying with groups of people; I'm not going to lie, I spend the majority of my time studying both outside and during school hours. I do go out, but that's usually only once a week. I have a full scholarship, and at the moment, keeping that is a lot more important to me than banging "HBs" on a consistent basis.

I realize it might be a little ironic for me to write this because I'm posting on this forum, but I don't really consider myself a PUA or anything like that. I've only browsed through these forums to learn a few interesting things and perspectives regarding dating and relationships.

Don't get me wrong, some of the the "gambits" I've learned are very useful, but I've been deterred from joining communities like this. Sometimes, I've found that the kinds of people you meet on these forums are not the kind of people I'd want to hang out with in real life. A lot of them seem very immature, and seem to think they're superior because they learned a bunch of tricks that help them "get laid." These guys don't seem to have anything going on for them, which is scary, because they let pickup define their life. I personally think the people who let pickup define their life, are usually the really insecure people, because they feel the need to validate themselves by surrounding themselves with girls.

Back to vendata's post, I think you could make it work if you look for those opportunities. For instance, instead of going out to bars and clubs/restaurants every night, you can hang out with your friends at other social venues like the skating arena. I've found that I meet women during the day time more often, so when I go to coffeeshops, I generally drink green tea. As for Christmas and New Year's, I have always found myself controlling my food intake as I have a history of terribad metabolism, so I'm kind of used to dieting. I personally plan on going out almost every night after my exams, and sure I might run into the issue of food choice, but I've always found a way to bypass that problem.

I ultimately want to try this diet out I'm more interested in the fact that I can potentially remove all the bad stuff in my body and lose weight at the same time.


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