k i got the opening hb8 idk from here...on the fly from here



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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 7:18 am 
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i went to the club and ended up hanging with a friend her bf was bein a d bag so i kept her company that night and her friend caught my eye hb8 and she cant dance holy hell i didnt wanna ditch out on my friend so i just chilled with her and my frind (G1) is good with her boy now so i started the opening got G2's number that night cuz G1's phone was dead.
the opening happend over text here it is

me: sooo yea i saw u at the club and damn....
kat(G2's nickname): ha. what does that mean???
me:dance...lol dayyyyym chicka
kat:me dancing?
me:yes exactly what im sayin idk why we didnt dance but we shoulda
kat:haha. why? am i a good dancer?
me:eh...yea i would say soo
kat:lol good :)
me:is it? ha
kat:yes..lol
me:and hows that? :D
kat:idk
me:ok...lol make a deal with me??
kat:possibly?
me:this weekend we dance and ill tell u how it is good...deal?
kat:ha ok sounds fun ;)
me:ight sounds like a plan
kat:good

i see i need to end the convo so i said:very haha but imma bout to pass out ill try to hit ya up sometime before then (prolly gonna wait a few days and if she txts or calls i can say everyone has been tryin to hang and ive been all over the last few days and havent been able to talk much but im gonna have the convo sound like i was wanting to but havent had the chance so she knows im interested but im real social so she knows im a person people wanna hang with to keep her interested)

thats where i stand im gonna try to pull somethin off but its gonna be on the fly and idk how i should persue this further mid game is kind of a struggle but then again it is trial and error either way im gonna learn from it weather its me failing and learning what not to do and adapting to that and overcoming it or its a succes and i take what ive figured out and tweak it or apply it else where

any advice will be listened to and i will try to apply

thanks for any advice givin


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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 5:04 pm 
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it was kind of hard reading your post but i think i have some advice for you.

looking at the texts between you and your girl, the overall outcome was great in the sense that she was seeking validation from you whether she was a good dancer. the text that you sent to arrange the date was very good, you sounded very dominant, taking command, and being the judge of her dancing instead of the other way round.

but the overall structure of the texts and replies seemed extremely erratic and staccato like. so it would be better if the interaction was smoother and there was more substance to the text messages.

it's good to show that you are a very sociable person. it is better to tell her how sociable you in the sense that you have different things going on everyday, shows that you're a busy guy. but one should not wait around for the chick to make the contact with you as chicks are lazy, they have too many things going on. so you have to initiate the contact. if the chick initiates contact with you then thats very cool but don't be dependent on her to make the first move.

here are some notes on attraction, building rapport, and number closing which might be of interest to you. enjoy.

one thing you should know is when to tease (push pull technique, negging etc). they should only be used if ur target is a 7.5 or above (or the girls who think they are 7.5 or above whereas in actual fact they are not). if you were to tease a girl below that rating, you would end of hurting and insulting them. in exclaimer for using negging and teasing is that one should positively validate their target before they negatively validate them. the reason to do it in this way is because one must hook their target in order to get their attention. so after the positive validation (for a set who is +7.5) you negatively validate them (tease, push) in order to put yourself at a higher level than them because at the beginning they are higher than you. the main reason why it is good to use negging is to challenge the ego of a girl of high calibre which is something that a typical afc does not do. and by doing this, it shows that u r a man that has high standards and does not go for just any girl and this will make the girl more interested and it will compel her to work harder to gain your approval because you have showed disinterest in her, told her that she does not fit your standards (negative validation). girls always want the guys that is surrounded by women and guys which are difficult to get, its a challenge for women to go after those guys.

building rapport is a very interesting process. in order to build a great emotional connection one must choose to talk about things which have deep emotional content. it does not matter what the girl does or likes, you can connect with her even if you have dissimilar interests. as you know all occupations and hobbies are completely different in their complexity, principles and structure, but there is one thing which all of them have in common/share "EMOTIONS". one must be empathetic and show a girl that u understand why she chose to do that job or hobbie by expressing the emotions that one feels when doing that activity, it shows that you're really trying to get to know her, and she will think "wow this is a great guy to talk to, he's making an effort to understand me, but wait, i dont know anything about him" and this will compel her to ask you questions and u can freely express yourself how ever much u want as long as u express urself passionately and positively. all the men dont do this at all and do not understand how much empathy is a powerful force and openly allow themselves to be perceived to see a girl superficially. you can use the concept of 'rapport' to ur advantage as well.

in order for you to build greater rapport with her, get used to asking more open-ended questions e.g. "what have you been up to?" or "What did u get up to today?", my one: "What monkey business did u get up to today?". dont use questions like "wats up hun?", thats a closed-ended question which the girl would simply answer and she wont give u much material to work on in order to reach the hook point.

and connect on her answers in a positive way. dont be afraid to tease her as well. dont be afraid to create impact. when telling a girl about a situation that happened to u on that day or in the week, give more details about it, women love details. it is also good to read the local news paper, women are usually very aware what happens in the world, u should as well. u can get her point of view on something in the news (nothing to do with which celebrity had sex with who) e.g. political, environmental, sociological etc and then she would ask you what u think and you can manipulate the conversation which can lead anywhere u want.

another way u can have an "endless conversation" is the principle of "Question, statement, Question, statement, Q, S, Q, S etc". so u ask an open question, receive the answer, and then make a statement about the last thing she said in order to ask a deeper question. this process can go round in a circle, it can go on for ages.

after you have the girl attracted to you and built rapport, here's how to make sure that you can get a definite number close and afterwards ensure a date in the future.

the way to ask a girl out is by 'offering' not asking permission, never ask "Do you want to go out tonight?" or "will you go out with me?" or "so what time are you free tomorrow?". They are all questions which AFCs do. they make a guy sound needy, desperate, dependent on doing something with her.

so before offering a date, let her know how busy and sociable you are. girls want guys who are difficult to get. usually in rapport with girls, to make sure she does not flake on u after the first meeting, there's a pua principle called 'seeding'. this is when u in plant an invitation in the conversation with her but u havent actually invited her. for example, you could say that "im thinking of going to this really cool bar sometime next week which i heard about". now usually when a guy mentions to a girl about going to a bar, club or party that u know, the girl will always expects the guy to automatically invite her. but what you would do is just to mention the party or the bar and continue on the conversation. this will catch the girl off guard and the girl will be thinking "hey, this guy is pretty cool (depending on the attraction and rapport), but he has just mentioned this party but why is he not asking me out?". she will think this and will be more compelled and desperate for you to ask her and she realises that she needs to work in order to get the invitation. women want to go to things that are hard to get into, exclusive and even more if they are told they cant go. people always want to go to things when they have been told they cant go. sounds so forbiden and interesting.

dont be in the position to be waiting for a girl to call you, women are lazy or busy but definitely unreliable. you make the contact. but when u contact, dont sound like you are too eager to see her, bad sign to show that ur desperate. in between texting a girl, act like u dont care if she ever replies back. i know it sounds crazy, but it does not feel good waiting, checking ur phone every so often seeing if the girl replies. have the frame of mind that u dont care about a reply, then u will feel less anxious, and more focused on ur game.

Hope that i have helped. happy gaming dude ;-)


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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 2:46 am 
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yea that helped alot i tend to lose focus and ask the afc question and alot of what you tell me happens i just never knoticed i guess i havent been in the right mindset i dunno.
not too worried bout number close i have it lol or a KC but for now i wanna get another night with her and work it more i kinda know her and she doesnt give "it" out it will be a game with her...not necisarily a hard one but i dont really have any goals just testing how i do and what ever i get, i get ya know shes more of a test platform to see where i stand if it goes some where good if not i will know what i need to work on

ill keep this thread updated and friday/saturday ill have a FR up


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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 8:36 pm 
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well shit turns out shes real good friends with a chick i know and i got a message saying this

her friend:um nice...trying to talk to my best friend...
me: dance with...
her haha noo...she has a bf and isnt interested
me:ok then tell her not to play along if she isnt interested...its the club shes all over random guys what difference would it make if she has a bf??? lol doesnt look good on her

this one went south...
question, where did i mess up? and why are chicks friends such CB's? why did she play along for a few days but then not go thru? my thought on the last one she was interested and told her friend who either A) got jelouse and fucked me over or B)knew she had a bf and kept her from goin thru...
any comments are welcome


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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 8:59 pm 
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well shit turns out shes real good friends with a chick i know and i got a message saying this

her friend:um nice...trying to talk to my best friend...
me: dance with...
her haha noo...she has a bf and isnt interested
me:ok then tell her not to play along if she isnt interested...its the club shes all over random guys what difference would it make if she has a bf??? lol doesnt look good on her

this one went south...
question, where did i mess up? and why are chicks friends such CB's? why did she play along for a few days but then not go thru? my thought on the last one she was interested and told her friend who either A) got jelouse and fucked me over or B)knew she had a bf and kept her from goin thru...
any comments are welcome
This might of been a shit test on this girls part. She may of been jealous or something and wanted you to have this reaction your having now. Your doing something right if she has a bf and the girl agreed to dance with you. Don't sweat this one


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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 9:16 pm 
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well her friend fucked me up on this one should i keep trying to persue or fuck it and move to the next i did think i did good up untill this point she was playing MY game and that in and of its self is a confidence booster and shows that i can do it im not down by this at all.

she is pretty damn hot and i hate to see her go (and love to watch her leave lol) but so be it there are pleanty of others out there

my main question is did i get fucked out on this one? should i persue or let it go?


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