Hey i was wondering if anyone could help me out with 1 of the 2 areas that i struggle in..

Basically in nightclubs im a dancer, and so my main way of trying to get girls is by starting dancing with them.
(i dont like approaching although im trying to work on it, but so i basically trick girls into approaching me)


If they fancy me and so start dancing n grinding with me, but dont want to go straight in for the kiss after 30-45seconds of dancing im gna have to chat to them.


Once i know the girl fancies me, as if they accepted dancing with me that would confirm that for me, im fine and extremely confident in chatting to them n flirting with them and stuff.

However i struggle and go completely blank after the chatting about the basic topics-

*Hi whats your name.
*You come this club often?
*You live around near her?
*Whats your job?


My mind just goes blank as i dont know what other topics to chat about after that.


Anyone have a few other topics that can be used on any type of girl and wont ever make you look dull, boring, or like you have runout of stuff to chat about??


Thanks

*Hi whats your name.
*You come this club often?
*You live around near her?
*Whats your job?
......these are very generic Q's girls hear every time a guy tries to meet them, chris rock has funny way of translating this, everytime she hears this she sees it as u sayin "how about some dick".......u will luk just another ordinary guy
the fact tht ur dancin with her means.....u already isolated her

.....instead make her ask u the Q's, u cud do this in many ways,
note: DISPLAYING VALUE .....this is the basics of all the below

1.you could comment on any of her accesories and say it tells you about her personality (you could run a palm reading on her after tht).....more details on tht in the "rules of the game" by neil strauss (girls best subject is herself....trust me this worked wonders for me)

2.say she's a good dancer and hire her as ur dance assistant......ofcourse fire her few seconds later (say this in a funny way or u will luk like a jerk)
note: if she punches you teasingly.....thts an IOI.....ur in

3.do an opinion opener....then introduce her to ur friends, this helps break the ice, and u luk like the leader of the gang.......girls like tht

.....if this works she'll start askin u generic Q's.....ofcourse if she asks u wht u do, dont say e.g.: i'm an engineer.....instead make yourself more mysterious.....I design the newest buildings.....girls will give u more status than u actually have

make sure she introduces u to her group, ignore her and focus on her friends....doin some of the tricks noted......cold reading on girls hands (where basically u define a girls personality on which finger shes wearing her ring, there is a page on tht on "rules of the game".....and yes it works) is the best at gettin the groups attention.....if done properly the girl ur after will want ur attention.....make sure u neg her if shes HB 7 or above

good luck mate

just think of stuff that you would talk to youre mates about..

and remeber stuff that was funny when you were a kid are still funny now...

Don't ask those basic questions. Those are boring, There is a list from this site of some interesting questions, do a quick search.

Thanks.
Fancy pointing me in the direction of the list though??

Just to give you a good mental frame on this, being a good dancer is a very attractive thing but its not much more than on the level of being very good looking. It will buy you some more time and a little more attention but from there you have to display your personality.

Thats fantastic that you are a good enough dancer to get women to approach you. That is a great skill, but look at it as a tool, and work on personality display from there.

Remember, women like to have fun. Thats why they like to go out and dance, drink, etc. The important thing is to be fun with your personality. A fun personality is what they are looking for.

So work on that a bit. What do you say when you are hanging with your boys? do you talk about work? where you live? etc? no.. sports, games, cars, etc..

see what i mean?

when i go on a first date (or second or third), my focus is to never at any time have the conversation turn to any of the basic interview questions.. jobs, work, etc. my attitude is we cannot have a fun convo, then we probably wont get along. it takes practice, but go places where there is a lot in the environment and its much easier.

she will eventually either start asking questions herself or become so curious about you it will drive her crazy..

good luck!







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as said above avoid the boring questions.

try opening with an assumption (forget the name), something like:

"you look like a drum and base girl, are you just pretending to have a good time so ill come and talk to you?"

maybe that was a bit mental but just what came into to my head.

this happens to me all the time, haha i was actually about to post a new topic askin for help on it too until i spotted this one!

a typical thing that happened to me was at a club last week. I was dancing facing my friend Al and there were sofa's behind me. after a few minutes alan said that one of the girls on the sofa kept staring at me , so i turned around. as soon as i made eye contact she actually got up and walked right over to me and started teasing me (flirtingly) about how i was dancing . I held her hand but still just asked those same dam questions. im absolutely terrible at phase shifting in to seduction even though ive got confidence.

she ended up dancing and kissing sum other guy! that sort of stuff happens to me almost every night i go out. i get the girls attention and interest , but cant bring it anywhere!

can you guys suggest some sites/ books that deal specifically with 'phase shifting into seduction'?? i just ordered rules of the game, and am currently reading 'the game'.

also, how would you have closed that girl that came up to me?? i think i just said 'its my american dance moves that are better then your european ones' haha but thats bout all i said , im just funny and confident without the crucial seductiveness!! i appreciate the help!!

I'm liking this thread, I can kind of relate, and being in the UK it helps. Some good opinions from people and I guess women want someone different, not boring, they want fun and games, seems that if you humour them, engage good and different conversation than the usual AFC your in with a shot, most of it becomes natural instinct.