ok ive been studying from magic bullets like fuckin crazy (literally spent writing notes till six in the morning!!)

ima just going to throw out im 17 years old and im just learning this stuff



this is my story

my friend wanted to go over one of my friends house (she is a girl) to just hang out and nothing else

so i go, and one of her friends show up (my target) and i went into PUA mode

i lean back, you do what im supposed to do to show DHV's

she is a really outgoing girl that talks alot (notice how i didnt say to much lol) and it was really easy to talk to her. really fun

so we talk, trying my fuckin hardest not to DLV, and i maintain eye contact, and the conversation, we play basket ball, i defended her but didnt give her any IOI's (i want to know if that was wrong) but i got plenty of kino escaltion out of it girljavascript:emoticon(':twisted:') hehehe

we talk afterwards, i got a small isolated conversation, maintained eye contact, now im in the qualification phase, im attracted to her we have things in common, and when her friend asked her to come over and play cards she told her she was really into the conversation but we both go and play cards anyway.

we play cards, i lean back, i have my friend across from me playin with us (just to put out there) and i start a opinion opener about micheal jackson i didnt really pay any intention to what her friend had to say, i kinda ignored her and focus on my target still holding eye contact


after we are done i told her it was a pleasure meeting her and i leave

the next day we go to my friends house a again. hoping my target comes to, and she does (YESSS!!) we play video games as a group and again i got to an isolated talk with her it was shorter than last time

and then she plays resident Evil 5 with me (awsome ass game!!!) and i was really impressed how much she kicked ass!!! it made my attraction to her stronger

i leave my friends house, she tells me is was nice meeting me and she gives me a hug outside my friends house alone, and i walk home

and now today

she came to my place with her group of friends we watch a movie but i wasnt able to sit next to her (dammit!!)

after awhile they all get hungry and leave (im lookin like aww shit!! ) but they had to ask my target to come with them in my head i was like (stay dammit, you got to stay!!) but she leaves and im lookin at what the hell i did wrong (you know how PUA's think to much)

but she was the first to come back, then her friends. but one of her friends stayed over at her house but who the fuck cares?

so im a painoist and she goes near my keyboard and starts to act like she is playing

i go over and show her how its done (ooo yah i DHV'ed!!!) and she was really liking it, and she was sitting right next to me.


so her friends leave, she stays we play cards. then all of a sudden ms cock blocker (my sister) sits at the table, and my mind went blank, for about 35 seconds or so, i got nervous but my sister didnt say anything (thank God!!!) it was late and said it was time for her to leave, and i walked her home

we talk but i didnt kino escalate (FUCK!!) so i near the end, we get into a deep conversation about our family i told her we need to hang out more and she tell me im a really cool guy and we should

we talk some more and i give her a hug goodbye

So what the hell did i do wrong?!?!?! or what i really mean is what should i have done and what didnt i do?

please leave a detailed reply

hey dude,
i just gotta say i'm only 19, so i was where you are not too long ago. One thing you gotta do i kino man, thats the most important thing when it comes to not getting stuck in the friend zone. I got LJBF'd by countless girls in high school casue i didn't know I needed to sexually escalate using kino. Another thing I would have done differently is: During your michael jackson opener, I would hae focused more on your friend's answers more than your target's. You're trying to get her to qualify herself to you, and if you more or less ignore her in group situations then she will ask herself "why isnt he paying attention to me?" and she will explore it (you) further.

i mean i did that i have ignored her. when i first started talking to her she would go on in a conversation ill just would keep focused with her friend intil she asked me my name then i started talking.

one thing i SHOULD have done was get her number.

but i told myself if i can see her everyday why bother?

i mean im not in the LJBF zone yet

but i really hope im not close.

Cidane,

You need to escalate physically! Use some of the kino routines, there are a lot of them on this forum.

When you play a video game and you beat her, take the joystick, hold it together with her and playfully pretend you are showing her how it is done. When playing cards, perform one of the simple card magic tricks with some kino (you can find these trick online).
Of course you can also use the well-known routines (trust test, tension test, hand shake routine, palm reading, etc.) in a playful way, she will not object!

There is a lot of opportunity for kino escalation in this situation and you aren't using any of it!!! Next time you get the chance, get down to business!

dude i just asked her friend and i think im stuck in the DREADED LJBF ZONE!!!!!!! (NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!)

PLEASE SOMEBODY TELL ME ITS NOT TO LATE

THIS WOULD BE THE 4TH TIME I MET THIS GIRL!!!

PLEASE TELL ME ITS NOT TO LATE!!!!!!!

dude, kino escalation! i actually pulled myself out of the LJBF zone two weeks ago with a girl that i was friend zoned by over three years ago. It just takes some balls. get her to sit on your lap somehow, don't go into deep meaningful convo's with her. keep them light. shut her out of the group subtly with your body language. its not too late, but you have to escalate.

One of the biggest eye opener (yes the other type of opener) I've had since starting on this PUA/Self improvement route is that there are always other girls. Don't give this one a pedestal yet. What is important is that you learn through this. It may not be over yet, but one way or the other it's no biggie.

Textbook wise, I think your options right now are DHV (Jalousy would work wonders here) and Kino escalate. Go out to chill somewhere and flirt with other girls with her watching.

But be ready to get over it.

thanks man

she is coming over today i and i need a game plan fast

what can i do with a paino, and A living room? i was think of play twister

i was thinking of a pillow fight but that would seem FRIENDLY