Alright lads,
we'll start on the day 2. Went to a nice pub had food a couple of drinks. Kino was really good I was testing constantly and getting no withdrawal. Put my hand flat on the table palm up and she was stroked my palm, big ioi!! 

Sadly she steered subject matter onto her "cunt" x bf (I think this was a Year ago). This tells me she may not be over him, correct? The bulk of the conversations that eve revolved around relaionships, how the hell do you steer the conversation away from this?

Carrying on i walked her home didn't k close, got 5 minutes down the road and remembered I had her stuff in my bag. I took it back to her had a bit of banter and went for a k close. She didn't pull away so I thought I did pretty well, pretty chuffed at that point.

Spoke to her last night for over an hour on the blower and she spoke about a guy she met on holiday and how she wasn't sure whether to have him visit. I steered the  coversation towards emotion and why holiday romance feels so good but has no substance. So sorted another meet this eve.

When I'm with her she's touchy, chatty, says she feels comfortable with me and fun, then she starts talking about this over the phone, WTF!!! she trying to make me jelious? Maybe hinting to make me move in or the other hand trying to tell me she ain't fucking interested... I know this sounds like the dreaded friend zone.

To sum it up...
What comes out her mouth says friend...
Physically she says I want you...

What girls say and what they mean are two very differnt things.

How'd you deal with ones like this? I'm being a total afc
about this, ahhrrrr!![/code]

Right first off, good to see that you realise that what a woman says and what she wants are two different things. But let me take that one step further.

What a woman says and what a woman responds to are two very different things.

Whilst you're getting the kino esclation, the kiss, she's having fun with you. Just how much attraction is there for her I'm wondering. Especially considering she's talking about other guys. Something is arie.

Don't get hung up about this girl too much, seems like she hasn't decided on what she wants to do and with who. So, you can still make this work for yourself. However, If you make yourself out to be a doormat well you know what to expect. Best to nip it in the bud about the talk about the other guys, otherwise it's the LJBF zone for you with this one. I can't imagine why a girl would talk about guys with a guy she is attracted to.

Oh, that's right. She wouldn't. Which means she's obviously more attracted to them than you at this moment. So what you going to do? Well take David DeAngelo's advice. Don't act needy or clingy. Keep up the cocky funny. Give her something but then take it away and see if she comes after you. I've been there in a similar situation. I've had girls who were all for holding hands, hugging, kissing. But none of that means that they've got that special feeling for you.

Yep it's official, this ones a dead end. Move on maybe this one will materialize without intervention.