Hi Guys,

I occassionally come on here when I need to vent and hopefully get some advice. Theres a girl at work who is literally my perfect girl(her names Jess) . I have an acquired taste so most people would probably think shes kind of plain looking but naturally pretty and a nice smile, anyway that doesnt matter.

I am definitely on the amateur side of the pick up spectrum, but im not too scared to approach girls that I like and start conversation, but I do get nervous when talking to them. So I talk to this girl every now and then at the water cooler(I work in an office). And I have been chatting to her every so often for about 6 months now, so I'm pretty sure shes made up her mind about me and its probably not a good impression....

The chats we have are all nice and smiley. But I was out at a club a few weeks back (really drunk) and saw a girl out who sits next to the girl I like at work(her names Rachel). and we were just talking but I got the impression she was trying to annoy me or belittle me because her and her friends were just giggling to themselves whilst talking to me, and they were actually getting on my nerves. Then Rachel said out of nowhere, "oh Jess is back from holiday next week" so without thinking I said "Oh good, so I can perve on her again instead of you".... Now that sounds really bad written down but I am a very sarcastic guy and I was really drunk. Im sure Rachel knew I was joking and they did leave me alone after that. But I think theres a good chance that Rachel told Jess what I said when she got back to work. Now I must look like a right creep.

We talked a little since then and had a nice conversation, so I decided to add her on facebook but she didnt accept (sounds lame but I think thats a huge indicator in this day and age) and since then I think she tries to avoid eye contact with me when she walks past my desk (even though I know her and Rachel both look at me when Im not looking) but when I am looking when they walk past, theyve both got their heads down looking at the floor, which I know is very submissive.

Anyways, I am seeing other girls at the time of writing this and theyre going ok, but I only think about Jess. Its gotten so bad that I dream about her now. I know the best thing is just to forget her and move on but I see her everyday at work. Is there any advice on how to move forward with this? I ATLEAST dont want her to think that I'm a creep, and yes she does have a boyfriend and Id love to be with her, but I will settle for just getting out of the creepzone

Any suggestions??

Thanks

Other people's opinions of you are their business. It's going to benefit you to know how you can influence their opinions, but when their idea of you is affecting you is where you got it backwards.

You got it bad for a girl who has a boyfriend. In addition this is at work. Not much I can really say here, you go for it or don't but the odds are stacked legitimately against you.

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Ok thanks guys,

Just an update on this, looks like shes now blocked me from sending her a friend request on facebook or some shit. This whole thing doesnt make sense to me now. Like theres no way I have wronged this girl in any way for her to do something like that. Just makes me really deflated I guess because I really wanted to pursue her but she must be thinking the complete opposite.

Is there any other reason why she would have done this other than the reason I have described? I havent been creeping on her or acting weird around her at all. So this is why im just confused as to why shes done this.

Thanks

Do you think that she and her friend view you the way you believe that they view you? Is it possible that you may actually come off as creepy but don't realize it? The whole thing about you believing that they are walking by and looking down means that they are being submissive is what concerns me because it sounds like they want to avoid making eye contact with you. If they were showing submission, they'd still make eye contact. That makes me feel that you are in denial.

My advice is not to say anything to these girls. If they are at the water cooler...just walk away. If they seek you out, limit what you say to them and get back to work. IF IF IF they constantly strike up conversations with you...don't get eager. Let them put in the investment.

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No she's not. She could be horrible in bed, and have a pussy that smells like a garbage can.
Because putting any more commitment than that, into my lifestyle would be to much work.
So that I can sniff her hair and masturbate.
So is she perfect? Or no?
Because I'll never have the balls to do anything else...
With some hand lotion...
Any morsel she tosses my way, because although she's so plain, he has something I cannot obtain.

Sex, career, friends, money and power. i shall forsake all theses things just to stand at the drinking fountain with her one more time..


So then if a chick was doing this to you???

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Lol thanks for the replies guys,

First off - yeah worst case scenario is they do think im a creep. which obviously was never my intent but I guess I fucked up, just needed to hear it from someone else

Second - God that made me laugh Heywood. I appericiate the words though, I do need a slap in the face from time to time so I snap out of it. Seeing it from that perspective, thank god they dont know what im thinking because if they didnt think I was a creep already, they definitely would then. I guess the only thing I can do now is damage control by just acting like they dont exist. Sad but thats all there is to be done

This is wrong and in simplest terms your problem. You don't pursue her. She pursues you. At best, you give her the opportunity and she takes it.

You imply that she has an effect on you. How can this be? You are the masculine energy, you are the cause she is the effect. Hope you learned the lesson here, can suck but it's worth it!

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Yeah looks like you have all things working against you here. First of all usually not a good idea to date people you work with. Can be done, but can be hazardous as they say "Don't shit where you eat". Plus as you mentioned she made her mind up on you. When girls do that and slotted you often its pretty settled. Only way to get out of these situations is if you actually putting up a front and not the real you in front of her. And she finds out the genuine real you is the one she likes.

But as far as just getting out of the creep zone. Just be nice. Be kind, compliment her in a non sexual way. Don't make jokes around her about perving her. It probably will never truly recover you and just minimize on the damage. But will at least make things more comfortable at work. Probably will always think you're a creep, but will respect you for recognizing things for what they are and keeping things cordial. Which will make the best of a botched situation.