Persistence v/s Self Respect



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:40 am 
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Hi guys,

I have started practicing pick up since a month or so and I have sometimes gone into situations where the question is of persistence v/s self respect. An example at airport,

After 10 mins of talking, touching her hair, shoulder kino e.t.c.
Me: What do you study?
She: Bachelors in Technical.
Me: I hate technical people. [playfully]
She: You can go away then.
Me: I won't, flight is still not there. Is there anything more than technical?
She: Forensic. I can kill you and no one will know.
Me: You can't. You don't exercise, drink a lot, eat a lot. You won't be able to catch me if we run.
She: I can.
Me: No, you can't. Do you run at all?
She: I run [and then looks at me for 7-8 secs.]

I look too in the eye and when eye contact breaks, I turned my back to her, talked to a couple on the other side. Flight announcement came in after 5 mins, went to the queue. When she passed, I looked into her eyes to see and she smiles nicely and genuinely, the way girls smile when they are feeling submissive or something based on my experience.

Now here, Instead of turning my back. I could have said something like
Me: Okay. You can kill me but there is a prophecy that I can only be killed in one way and it leads to a kiss or something or along those lines and I would have continued the conversation.

I see many times, I think being persistent is good but I am not sure when to actually leave as persistent might have continued and could have led to result. One school of thought says that we should be unaffected by girls and girls give shit tests to test this, so persistent can be one way to go. Any one here faced this dilemma before and any pointers on how to decide when to walk away?


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 2:48 am 
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I walk away if she ever threatens physical violence or to call security. In this case, sounds like she was joking about killing you, so I wouldn't leave that set.

I'm confused why you thought any of that was a shit test though. Seemed like she was flirting back

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 3:19 am 
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I agree with Chris. I leave if she ever threatens violence but it does sound like she was joking when she said that.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 3:37 am 
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Seems like you sort of just went up to some girl and insulted her with the intention of teasing her. She got offended instead of finding the sense of humor behind it, you didn't notice she was upset and you continued teasing her when she was not feeling it and then it ended.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:32 am 
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Seems like you sort of just went up to some girl and insulted her with the intention of teasing her. She got offended instead of finding the sense of humor behind it, you didn't notice she was upset and you continued teasing her when she was not feeling it and then it ended.
pumpington, I kind of agree with you. Her tonality suggested that she was a tiny bit pissed. But I continued coz these things have turned around in the past. But I think I overdid it when I said that she doesn't exercise, eats and drinks as she was on the curvy side. In my mind at that time, I said it thinking that she has already given negative comment[asking me to leave] and the best way to maintain the frame of me liking her but not liking her comment, would be to tease back playfully. Most likely, she didn't took it playfully.

So in these cases, when I want to maintain the frame of me liking her but not liking what she is doing and I am about to leave her, what would be the good comebacks? I think of following possibilities but do let me know if there are more.
1. A comeback statement with humor and tease light heartedly, about her. [For e.g., Me: I can say you are even scared of an insect, forget about killing me.]
2. A comeback statement with humor and confidence, about me. [For e.g., Me: I have killed 10 assassins who were against for me, you have negligible chance against me]
2. Go silent but be there, ignore the comment, and continue with something else as she said something stupid which is worth ignoring.

About the perceived insult I did, I think apologizing in a calm meaningful/playful manner will be sufficient.


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Sounded like you were trying a little too hard, maybe read a little too much b.s. on this site and others. I personally can pull off some sarcasm and teasing but the women always know it is a joke and they return playful banter. You sounded a little intense in your approach. If the woman tells me flat out that she is not into me, has a boyfriend, seems like she is stringing me along and stealing too much time with no connection in the near future, I leave it at that and move to the next one.

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Hi guys,

I have started practicing pick up since a month or so and I have sometimes gone into situations where the question is of persistence v/s self respect. An example at airport,

After 10 mins of talking, touching her hair, shoulder kino e.t.c.
Me: What do you study?
She: Bachelors in Technical.
Me: I hate technical people. [playfully]
She: You can go away then.
Me: I won't, flight is still not there. Is there anything more than technical?
She: Forensic. I can kill you and no one will know.
Me: You can't. You don't exercise, drink a lot, eat a lot. You won't be able to catch me if we run.
She: I can.
Me: No, you can't. Do you run at all?
She: I run [and then looks at me for 7-8 secs.]

I look too in the eye and when eye contact breaks, I turned my back to her, talked to a couple on the other side. Flight announcement came in after 5 mins, went to the queue. When she passed, I looked into her eyes to see and she smiles nicely and genuinely, the way girls smile when they are feeling submissive or something based on my experience.

Now here, Instead of turning my back. I could have said something like
Me: Okay. You can kill me but there is a prophecy that I can only be killed in one way and it leads to a kiss or something or along those lines and I would have continued the conversation.

I see many times, I think being persistent is good but I am not sure when to actually leave as persistent might have continued and could have led to result. One school of thought says that we should be unaffected by girls and girls give shit tests to test this, so persistent can be one way to go. Any one here faced this dilemma before and any pointers on how to decide when to walk away?


Sounds like you were being overly insultive. As a rule, I never tease a girl about her weight unless I'm SURE that she's ok with it.


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