Hey,

I'm new to this forum but I'm familiar with basic PUA stuff so bear with me. Anyways, this seems like a great, active forum so just thought I'd ask for some advice off the more experienced gamers out there..

Approached an HB8 outside a club in town. Got some IOI's and got her to feel really comfortable talking to me. Managed to get her number by the end of the night.

I always felt like you should ring a girl first even if the conversation doesn't last long just so she gets familiar with communicating with you on the phone. Spoke to her about her uni stuff, going abroad and similar interests. Again we spoke for like 20 minutes without any akwardness and threw in some DHV by telling her about some of my experiences abroad. Everything seemed fine.

I text her the next day by using "I like your opinion on something" she responded to it ok. I thought things were going bad when she tried to neg me but I managed to turn it around and we just teased each other for a bit. This girl is very confident about herself and I'm naturally confident too so we had our banter.

I than text her the next day late at night.

Me: Madam
Her: Yes?
Me: You're a late night warrior. Wuu2?
Her: Just leaving a friends house. Im going bed soon.

That answer felt a bit cold so I just left it there and didnt speak to her for a day or two. Didnt want to lower my value. I thought its time to set up a date or it would never happen. I think I fucked up here though. Here is how our last convo went.

Me: Hey, let's grab abite to eat towards the end of the day. How does 6 30 work for you?
Her: I already have plans
Me: (Threw in some humour about her decline relating to what we have been talking about)
Her: No I really have plans.

Again that felt cold so I left it there. She also took more and more time to as all this went along. I know I made some mistakes so I just want someone to show me how I could have done this better.

I'd suggest she was never really into you... but I wasn't there and couldn't read her reactions.

What'd you do wrong? Well if my theory is right all you did was mis-read her... You chatted her up, but maybe didn't build quite as much interest and attachment as you thought.

Then you called her, and that maybe didn't go quite as well as you thought - and she was being polite.

The one area where I can tell you definitely made an error was where you asked her out - you need to do that after reading 'interest' queues from her... One word answers and quick "going to bed" messages are not interest queues.

You could have tried doing it on the phone but I'm not sure it would have gone any better. She just doesn't really seem into you (it happens).

Ok, thanks for that. It seems like people on this forum only respond when you made some posts which is fair enough. Appreciate that, I guess I got a bit too confident in myself. Need to learn more about IOI's.

If a girl is negging you or teasing you, it's always a good thing. Think about it, who teases someone they don't like? The only guys i tease are my good friends. The only girls I tease are ones that I am trying to build report with. I would never walk up to an ugly chick and begin teasing her. Same with a girl. If a girl has a guy friend she isn't attracted to, or a "friend zoned" guy, she doesn't tease them. She shares feelings and shit with them, but doesn't neg or tease. So when a girl gives you shit you should be genuinely smiling and happy about it and ready to return fire.

Also, nothing in the texts, to me, tells me that she isn't really interested. It sounds like you texted her once late at night when she's already tired and heading home, then you texted her on late notice on a day where she had plans that afternoon.

I'd give it another shot. "I'm looking to go to blank over the weekend, you should tag along. Friday and Saturday I'm busy during the day but free in the afternoon."

That way you don't seem like your saying your absolutely not busy at all but it also gives her the ability to say "sure Im free on this date". If she still keeps with the "I'm busy all the time" thing then I'd move on.

You asked her out all wrong. Asking someone if they are available on Friday at 7pm via text message is about the single worst way to ask anyone out, period. It's also a little presumptive, because you're acting like this girl is just going to come out with you at the time you specified. If a girl asked me out like that I'd reject her too even if I like her and I wasn't actually busy. Because part of the game, part of the chase, is making yourself unavailable.

You are trying to skip that and make it easy on yourself. But she knows that and you failed as a result. If she says yes then it's no challenge for you, and when you are not challenged it means she isn't either. The general vibe I got was that she's not very interested in you. Probably because you failed to develop the requisite rapport. As has been said many times here, trying to win a girl over via text, or repairing damage that was already done, is a very daunting task. I'd say good luck, but I'd probably do you better by simply telling you to forget about this one and move on.

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That pretty much sums it up.

2 extra points
1) how long did you hang out with her the first night ?
2) you'r reading way too much into texts. Although In this case she's was never really that into u I don't think k. But instead of your texts making it better from there, it's making it worse.

Your invitation out like pua ninja said I think is way too presumptuous. It just sounds bad to me.

Secondly, your barreling in the wrong situation. There are times when a girl is resisting because she thinks ur a player or playing hard to get, or her anti slut defence is working. Barreling is great if your charming. This isn't one of those spots. She probably has legitimate plans.

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