So ive recently been doing a lot of opening, and been pretty successful getting contacts, but i swear it is midgame that is by far the most challenging.

I noticed there is a lot of really good information about how to frame yourself in a way that increases your value, but for me the most tension lies in coming across in a way that is on one hand high value, yet on the other in a way that is natural for yourself because:

If you are only focused on coming across in an artificial way to create value, over time it becomes a chore to constantly maintain that framework, as well as a guilt that the other person doesn't really 'know' you

but if you only come across as yourself, even if you do it in a confident way, you might get to know that girl well but fail to establish sexual feelings. Seriously, this second problem is my main issue and i believe many others rather than anything else.

It's not that you are low value - or you don't have confidence - they will boast about their time with you to their friends, but they just dont want to be sexual about it. Some say this is not so bad, because then their friends can be used as a pivot, but control starts to be taken out of your hands as to when and who you meet from their circle.

I've recently had a terrible example of this. I took this pretty Japanese girl out id met in the library, constantly built rapport through both verbal and physical contact, and although she was happy to hold my hand, and i kissed her when she got on the bus to go somewhere for her holidays - (through text afterwards she'd always respond to me pretty positively) but after flirting a bit i asked directly if she was interested, and she said 'just as friends but she was happy that i liked her.'

Out of all the different stages of pic up, these situations can be the most mentally devastating, because you've already put a lot of emotional investment, you are confident because things are progressing, then suddenly - bam. you are left wondering what the fuck went wrong. And this self doubt is not the ' should of been more confident' - you were confident or 'i should of been more value creating' - you did create value. It's the kind of doubt that makes you feel like there is something intrinsically wrong with yourself.

You are left with this quagmire: "how do you begin doing it all over again, without demonizing women as illogical sex objects - which while gives you an immunity to getting rejected because 'dey are stupod, therefore did not reject you for logical reasons = you are bullet proof...

...yet by doing so the whole thing becomes depressing, because you begin framing your relationship and the other girl within a mathematical formula of value creating, rather than content state of feeling 'naturally connected?


Sorry for this long post!

The idea here in Natural Game is to actually be higher Value. The Routines and Attraction stuff for mid - game is all revolving around the concept of being a higher value naturally.

Do you tease/banter/flirt? That stuff builds Attraction. Only a higher Value guy will tease and play with a girl.

Being yourself is fairly easy. But the truth is some of us suck. I did too when I started. I had to learn to be cool and comfortable with myself. I had to get out in the world. Learn and Grow.

Pick Up is hard, because it is an expression of yourself. If you want to be 'you' in your PU you can be. You should be. You should let her know her you are. You should play with her. Express your masculine energy, this is Value.

Value can be leading, escalating, qualifying, having standards. This is all Value you have as a man. As a man, she will be attracted to you for these things.

If a girl wants to be friends, it normally means you did not escalate. You must give a girl the chance to reject you, and by reaching that point and not folding, you are attractive.

There is a lot of material on mid - game. The key is, all the Routines, Story's, Game, Gimick's and Magic would all be structures for how to be attractive and how to display who you are. Learn from what you read as structure, not as gospel, and that will help shine a light on how to attractively communicate. 'Alpha' Naturals tease women, have fun, have standards, and enjoy the energy women have in contrast to their masculinity. That is where attraction exists.

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