So met this girl a week or two back, got her on facebook and stuff. We been chattin a bit, bit of banter here and there. Asked her if she wanted to get a drink after work sometime this week, and after establishing a time and day, she came out with "Aww, well i could come out for a drink but just as long as its only as friends :')"

...Feck.

How do I move out of that before I get too far deep to be of any kinda saving?

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Make sure she's not in a relationship before you take her out, unless you want to ruin the guy's life.

If you want to go for her, just agree with her, and escalate when you're there.
Don't make it look as if you want to go for her, make her feel it when she's there and she won't regret it.

Yea be like ok whatever and move on her anyways.. you have nothing to lose.

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in this case it sounds to me like she is just trying to not seem so easy to get.

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If you don't really know her and she isn't in a relationship then its to early to be friend zoned. Just meet her and game her like you would any other girl. Don't think about the friend comment, just pretend it didn't happen and let the evening with drinks unfold.

This ^^^

who cares? Just get her to come out with you. That's all that matters. Once you have her infront of you is when you can close the deal.

I rarely disagree with Majik but than again I'm probably much lazier then he is. I would respond with something alpha like "I dunno I find you irresistible, so just dress cute and we will see what happens" or one of my favorites "Just friends lol - I'm used to getting my way so we shall see"

this will provide an effective filter, if you can switch the frame on her and get her flirt- interested and shit testing you have just made yourself more attractive if you get blown out then you just saved your time and a hang over pursuing a super low value prospect. I prefer either result to agreeing to her stated unqualified terms .

do you think she has access to any other women you might like? good female friends are pussy. If not with them then women they know. Most women I have fucked it was by making friends with a woman I was not interested in

A very common issue I find on these boards (and it's ironic I find this because I am big into online game) is that guys put way too much effort in their setup than the actual seduction. Guys spend hours thinking about clever text after clever text or clever response after clever response instead of focusing on getting girls out where you can REALLY display alpha qualities and all the good shit that they should want to date you for. I agree w/Majik here, get her out, and THEN show her why she should want to date you.

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+1, I saw a video with Gambler talking about breaking out of the friendzone, and one thing he mentions is why in some cases it's not that bad to stay in a friendzone. Hot girls have hot friends, friends who may have an extremely high bitch shield. If a taken hot girl likes you and becomes friends with you, she will introduce you to her hot single friends. It's like a backstage pass to the hot girls only club.

Grab a drink with her, and mention how "you must have really great friends! I would love to meet them." Even after meeting her friends and if you still want to mess w/ her, flirt with her friends HARD and see how she reacts. Give her IODs like bro-hugs while giving her friends super flirty-hugs and kino.

I am in no way endorsing over texting and any amount of involved pre-date gaming. I'm talking about spending a minimum amount of time to qualify your prospects before committing to a more time involved alternative, if you have a lot of time to waste and/or a scarcity of targets than by all means work your game in person with low yield prospects, if your game is good you will even land one here and there.

I don't understand this mindset. So she agrees to go out with the guy.

What do you qualify ? Are you talking about cancelling the date based on the girls reply? I think especially if someone is not experienced they should always go for the personal meeting. Best way to learn. Also the best way to fuck somebody.

Also if a girl decides to spend time with a guy in person she is interested at least a little. Doesn't matter how what she says about the friend thing. You shouldn't really care about what a girl says anyway.

Agree with the guys that say just ignore the friend thing and go meet her.

As your game gets better and you have more success with woman you are going to filter out low yield prospects which take up too much time relative to the chances of success. I think the only thing that your questioning is my assessment that this is a low yield prospect

I think this argument can be solved by asking te question "how much time do I have and do I have choice?" If you don't have many dates just get them out, if you are spoiled for choice simply pre qualify and only give time to girls that have shown they are attracted to you already.