I have just started day game as I'm too young for night game (I'm 16). I generally have made a lot of progress as before I wouldn't even smile at a girl. I can now cold approach girls even though I still get a bit nervous I can overcome it. At first I had little success and just used to approach girls saying "hi" which didn't get me very far. I have used in the 2 most successful openings I have done a direct opener and accusing the girls of checking me out. I can now reach the hook point and have an interesting conversation. I am also receiving IOIs including complements (one girl even told me i must have massive balls to directly approach her) which is good progress for me considering where I started out.

I do have 2 sticking points though. The first is that I am sure I need to start kino which I'm failing to do. I was thinking I should make a plan of what to do so when I'm in set I don't make excuses. For instance I was thinking a hand shake after my direct opener to get kino established early then later on a palm read. Then move on to a more deliberate touch like hand on leg. One thing im unsure about is how to do this, if I'm not sitting next to her without making it awkward. Another sticking point is my need of a good wing. I currently go out with a mate but he does not help at all. He does not only have bad approach anxiety but is actually scared if girls. When I approach he does not only refuse to come with me but he actually goes and hides from them where he can't be seen. This is extremely awkward as when they ask where he is a have to TELL them that he is hiding from them as it is hard to make an excuse for him leaving me so long (it most probably would appear creepy to say I'm on my own as barely any 16 year olds I know go out alone). This was a big problem today as they asked to see him and I agreed to take them to where he said he was hiding and he had gone to the toilet making it look like I was lying and making me look a total creep which lost me the set. It is hard to find someone else as most of my friends won't go out to approach girls. At my age it is hard to meet new people that would; as most guys don't have the confidence for day game. The meet and wing section looks a good place to find someone suitable but I can't find anyone under 18 in there.

Has anyone got any ideas for my problems?

Thanks in advance.

Ok I'm pretty bad at day game, but I can hold a conversation and have female friends so ill do my best!

Anyway, with regards to kino, start it right away. Gestures a lot with your hands when you are talking and listening if you can (if you saw me talking to anyone you'd think I was Italian, I use my hands a lot). This makes touching far more natural. Start with their hands, move up the arm, down the back, then to the stomach, the the head hair and face, then kiss. That's just a rough guide and I rarely stick to that process. I like to go hands/arm then face usually with an excuse to give a hug and a kiss on the cheek. If they give me an excuse to touch anywhere I'm going to. I love night game though and rapid escalation is easier (although its still a bit of a sticking point for me).

In short, start kino as fast as you possibly can. Watch videos on it and practice. Eventually you will know it by instinct.

As for your wing, you don't need one. The only reason I have wings is because I love having people around me and I'm super social, especially when it's party time. It's for the pleasure of their company and because going out with friends is just more fun. I've gone out on my own a number of times and even when I'm out with mates I tend to fly solo. actually I've gone as far as to tell some friends that if they see me with girls to not talk to stay away. Unless they know the rules (ie dont fucking talk to the one i want and stick to the friends) and have good conversational abilities I don't want them anywhere NEAR my sets. Unless they want to learn, are able to learn (have a good mate with clinical aspergers, great guy but scares the shit out of girls and makes me look bad and literally cannot be taught. Love him to bits but the number of sets he's ruined for me is ridiculous) and will follow my lead that is.

Learn to lead a group. If its a two set take them both (or let the girls decide who gets you hehehe), or just set a date and take a number. If its a 3 set or more pick the one you like and isolate or, again, flirt with them all and show them all an awesome time! If you have a good wing you can bring them in to the larger sets to spread the workload but I've found that wings mostly get in my way.

Anyway, like I said applies a little more to night game but I think the principles remain the same. Night game you can escalate faster mainly and girls are far more open to approaches. Let me know if this was helpful!

Thanks for your reply. I will try your suggestions though I'm currently on holiday in the USA. this is why it has taken so long to reply as I havn't had internet access for ages. I want to try out there but I'm with my parents as I'm only 16 and most people my age are with there parents as it is hard to go on holiday on your own till you are 18. This makes it a lot harder; they tend to be with patents too. Though I do want to try as apparently american girls are easier to cold approach than in the UK. your tips on kino were very helpful.