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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 7:55 am 
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im not sure if this is the proper section to post in but here i go.

I went to a club tonight and i was dancing with this HB8 then her boyfriend comes out of know where and intervenes, me trying to work on my game/confidence i pat him on the head as if he where a pet, he proceeds to pat me back on the head in which this escalated into me almost fighting him, his bestfriend and her girlfriend was even trying to attack me.

Looking back on this i probably stepped out of line trying to disrespect him to much but how do i stay the alpha male while not trying to look like a huge douche or potentially getting kicked out while starting a fight between my friends and his group of friends.


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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 3:29 pm 
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im not sure if this is the proper section to post in but here i go.

I went to a club tonight and i was dancing with this HB8 then her boyfriend comes out of know where and intervenes, me trying to work on my game/confidence i pat him on the head as if he where a pet, he proceeds to pat me back on the head in which this escalated into me almost fighting him, his bestfriend and her girlfriend was even trying to attack me.

Looking back on this i probably stepped out of line trying to disrespect him to much but how do i stay the alpha male while not trying to look like a huge douche or potentially getting kicked out while starting a fight between my friends and his group of friends.
Just ignore him........... Act like he doesn't exist. Just keep talking and get her away from him.

If its a serious relationship, its usually best to just eject yourself and forget about it lol there is no reason to get your ass beat over some girl....


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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 4:17 pm 
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I try to stay away from confrontations in clubs. I've been thrown out and arrested before from a club for doing much less than fighting. Not worth a night in jail plus all the bs fee's.

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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 4:18 pm 
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If you know for sure they are in a relationship i would advise to eject the set, there is no reason whatsoever to start being alpha.

Last time i had this was when i entered a two set with my wigman. While the conversation went nice, after a few minutes her boyfriend showed up. I looked at him, high fived him, kept talking for 30 sec and left.

As u said yourself, petting a girls boyfriend is not a good idea, it does not get you the girl and just adds the chance for a fight. So for the future i would advise to eject the set in a friendly way.


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im not sure if this is the proper section to post in but here i go.

I went to a club tonight and i was dancing with this HB8 then her boyfriend comes out of know where and intervenes, me trying to work on my game/confidence i pat him on the head as if he where a pet, he proceeds to pat me back on the head in which this escalated into me almost fighting him, his bestfriend and her girlfriend was even trying to attack me.

Looking back on this i probably stepped out of line trying to disrespect him to much but how do i stay the alpha male while not trying to look like a huge douche or potentially getting kicked out while starting a fight between my friends and his group of friends.
Yea you did. You are at a club. Find a girl who doesn't have a boyfriend. Why go for something difficult when it is unnecessary? Being alpha doesn't mean being confrontational or being a dick

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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 9:59 pm 
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Being Alpha is much more than having your way in a particular situation. Of course her boyfriend would have an issue with you because A) he's got a trick for a girl, B) she's giving you attention. Not all attention is good and smart Alpha's know when to back down.


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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 11:37 pm 
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im not sure if this is the proper section to post in but here i go.

I went to a club tonight and i was dancing with this HB8 then her boyfriend comes out of know where and intervenes, me trying to work on my game/confidence i pat him on the head as if he where a pet, he proceeds to pat me back on the head in which this escalated into me almost fighting him, his bestfriend and her girlfriend was even trying to attack me.

Looking back on this i probably stepped out of line trying to disrespect him to much but how do i stay the alpha male while not trying to look like a huge douche or potentially getting kicked out while starting a fight between my friends and his group of friends.
JUST BEAT IT Pal!

No One Wants To Be Defeated
Showin' How Funky Strong Is Your Fight
It Doesn't Matter Who's Wrong Or Right
Just Beat It, Beat It
Just Beat It, Beat It
Just Beat It, Beat It
Just Beat It, Beat It

This is what I keep reminding Myself whenever I'm involved in a controvertial situation...Michael Jackson song "BEAT IT" Says it All..."You Have To Show Them That You're Really Not Scared
You're Playin' With Your Life, This Ain't No Truth Or Dare
They'll Kick You, Then They Beat You,
Then They'll Tell You It's Fair
So Beat It, But You Wanna Be Bad"

And I love the way those Alpha Males are dancing along with Michael on The Video Clip...It's Silly, it's funny, it's hilarious and it's Human...


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:50 am 
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I'd back off... but I'd do it in a way that shows you're doing it because you're a moral, respectful, and respectable man, and not because you're intimidated by him.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:45 am 
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I take the respect approach. When I mistakenly approach a taken girl who's bf shows up, I turn smile and shake his hand. This is the ultimate alpha display as it shows complete confidence and cool. I then talk directly to the guy for a moment and actually build rapport with him, then shift back to the girl and focus until either its clear its a waste or its clear its a go. Since I built the rapport with the guy, it's the same logic as cock block strategy in that the guy has already validated me in front of his girl. He thinks we're old friends or at least that I'm a cool new friend, and she thinks I'm a stand up dude for handling it like a boss. Win win.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:09 am 
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I think psych3r is on the right track. Maybe you could have gone even further and if the group seemed cool met some single women through them.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:45 am 
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Lots of good answers, but don't seem to answer your question. I agree that it's good to boost if a bf shows up, at the same time, showing that you are alpha on a girl and her bf can open up those other opportunities that everyone is advising you to go get.

If you've read The Game by Style, then you'll no doubt understand that in gaming it's anyway better to get the attention of the guys and to ignore the girls. They'll become more and more attracted to you the more their bfs show interest in you.

The proper Alpha move is when the guys show up, to immediately turn your attention to them and completely freeze out the girls (you can think they deserve it anyway, for not mentioning their bf to you already). You're not at all trying to win the approval of those guys by asking them questions or anything, you just make them laugh and get them asking you questions, all the while ignoring their gf and even making fun of them.

You could say, for example, "ah so here is the owner of the lost puppy." then nod and ask them what's up or whatever. Then launch into any various routines and neg their gfs.

The way to think about it is that whoever people are generally paying the most attention to is the alpha. So as soon as a group dynamic changes, i.e. more guys or girls show up, it doesn't matter, if you are alpha you will be the center of attention.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:08 pm 
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Don't ever pat a grown man on the head. Game or no game, that's highly disrespectful. I would have likely punched you straight in the face without any sort of argument or posturing. You don't know where people are coming from in their lives. If you're hitting on a girl who has a bf, and the bf shows up, move on.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:35 am 
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Obviously your trying to hard to be something your not and failing at it. Who the hell pats another bloke on the head to try and win over his girlfriend. You would just look like a social retard.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:34 am 
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I take the respect approach. When I mistakenly approach a taken girl who's bf shows up, I turn smile and shake his hand. This is the ultimate alpha display as it shows complete confidence and cool. I then talk directly to the guy for a moment and actually build rapport with him, then shift back to the girl and focus until either its clear its a waste or its clear its a go. Since I built the rapport with the guy, it's the same logic as cock block strategy in that the guy has already validated me in front of his girl. He thinks we're old friends or at least that I'm a cool new friend, and she thinks I'm a stand up dude for handling it like a boss. Win win.
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Focus on the guy, shake his hand. Figure out quickly whether or not it's worth it then move on.

Had this exact situation over the weekend. The guy was an ex athlete and best mates with an EPL footballer and had some awesome stories about shit they'd done. Good bloke, moved on, found abother girl and got laid.

Good night.


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