So I'm kinda new...
Kinda.
AA has never really been an issue for me though, and I've been playing with some basic ideas for a little while now. I can honestly say that 90% of the time if a HB is out with me in a small group or get together I'll pull massive attraction. Ussually these girls end up in the situation because someone else knew them though, and brought them along. Then my friends get pissed because I'm pulling too much attraction. Most of the time in not even trying to at this point...
In fact, more than once I've tried to use the girl in the group as A pivot, but instead I just end up with her at the end of the night.

So...
My problem is getting a cold open to show results. I can get past the actual open without a problem, and I've successfully utilized neg theory, and group theory numerous times, in cold sets, and on girls I meet through friends. How do I transition past the open?
Especially at a bar/club.
I suck at night game... I can usually do decent at day game though.
I know that's ass backwards.
Help?

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I'm not sure why I keep on ending up with the girls I'm trying to use as a pivot. It's cool gettig laid and all but I feel like if I keep doing this I'm not learning as much as i could be.
I'm attributing it to some kind of flaw in my game, mainly my difficulty progressing past the first few steps. With whatever sets I open throughout the night.

Suppose that would mean, I'm having trouble escalating?

Just looking for some pointers.

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I feel you are sticking with the pivots, because you are not using the pivots for the girls you WANT. You are staying with the pivots "at the end of the night" because you are either 1) to scared to use them to open others or 2) you dont get what you want, so they are fall back - and that's what they should be ultimately as dickish that sounds.

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This happens to me too! I think it's because I pivot at the wrong time either too soon or too late. Maybe that's it?

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To be honest I've never used the pivot to open the set. They're Ussually there for social proof and occasionally a touch of jealousy. What are some good openers to use with a pivot?

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