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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:40 am 
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So im fine with meeting people and have gotten better at conversation but after i open and start a different topic i dont know what to say to make the conversation become better in the sense that she becomes attracted to me, puts me as high value, and then from there be able to sexually escalate. I know how to kino but its a bit difficult for me to get to the sexual conversation. My biggest problem is that I dont know how to flirt or make the conversation too sexual. My friend sometimes shows me what to say via text and I always think its being too forward for some girl i dont know well. Im not worried what she'll think anything more about it but after he sends the text I dont even know where to go so it will like kill a conversation. Ive been working PUA for several months and I'm in college and have gotten better in several aspects but this is my biggest sticking point and its very necessary! Help! Any comments would be great and I'd appreciate it.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:52 pm 
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So im fine with meeting people and have gotten better at conversation but after i open and start a different topic i dont know what to say to make the conversation become better in the sense that she becomes attracted to me, puts me as high value, and then from there be able to sexually escalate. I know how to kino but its a bit difficult for me to get to the sexual conversation. My biggest problem is that I dont know how to flirt or make the conversation too sexual. My friend sometimes shows me what to say via text and I always think its being too forward for some girl i dont know well. Im not worried what she'll think anything more about it but after he sends the text I dont even know where to go so it will like kill a conversation. Ive been working PUA for several months and I'm in college and have gotten better in several aspects but this is my biggest sticking point and its very necessary! Help! Any comments would be great and I'd appreciate it.
Usually you can dhv by using negs and storytelling of your qualities. I personally believe its better to push/pull with sexual tension to gain attraction. I havent had success with storytelling mostly with push/pull. An easier way to start sexual conversations is taking the things she says and playful making it seem sexual or if you role play you can start a fun sex fantasy with her. For example if you role play a marriage you can image a honeymoon in Hawaii or something and talk about the sex positions you will do to her. Dont get over detailed because it becomes creepy.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:36 am 
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listen to what she says. too many guys think too much of what they want to say next instead of just listening to what she has to say. you can: talk about her, random people at the place youre at, stories, something that happened to you that day, something that happened to her that day, drama, banter about stuff she says or does. tease her about something funny she does. talk about random shit. if shes into you enough she wont care what youre talking about, all shell care about is if shes talking to YOU.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:07 pm 
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I dunno, I mean the whole purpose of being with a girl is sex, right? I mean ultimately. So all the other bullshit is just fluff. That being said, you should constantly be trying to steer the conversation towards sexual topics, and calibrating her reactions and responses. Like I really don't give a shit what she thinks about American Idol. Nor do I want to sit there and listen to her yammer on about it. But I might mention that I don't like Mariah Carey because her boobs are too far apart, then maybe tell the girl she has nice symmetrical boobs. And hopefully try to get a conversation going about boobs and women's body types.

The key to this, as was already said, is not to be creepy. Which is why you need to be subtle at first and calibrate. You want to make it seem like your sexual comments are just made in passing, or are perhaps innocent questions. But the reality is that you are trying to bring this girl into a sexual frame of mind so that she is primed for physical escalation.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:39 am 
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listen to what she says. too many guys think too much of what they want to say next instead of just listening to what she has to say. you can: talk about her, random people at the place youre at, stories, something that happened to you that day, something that happened to her that day, drama, banter about stuff she says or does. tease her about something funny she does. talk about random shit. if shes into you enough she wont care what youre talking about, all shell care about is if shes talking to YOU.
Exactly this. Every time I am asked this question I give back the exact same advice. Focus on listening instead of talking. Ask her questions about her life, her past, her childhood, her passion, etc.

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