I'm actually new to this forum, but I'm really glad i found it. here's my problem. i met this girl few days back. we took a class together early this year but i didn't really notice her since it was a huge class. so by the end of the semester she stopped me one day to inquire about the class and stuff. since then we've really not seen each other. but a few days ago i went with my buddies to a bar, and was standing outside (the bar was filled to the brim) with them when this girl came over. anyway she was trying to get in but couldn't cos there was no space left. she turned and saw me, and instantly recognized me. we talked about the situation in the bar and she suggested that we go to another bar close by. we both did and while there we really hit it off and i think we connected in a way that actually took me unaware. she was actually fun to be with. we later came back to the other bar a couple of hrs later and hung out for some time. it was very late and when she got ready to leave, she came and asked for my number and gave me hers. half an hr l8r i sent her this text:
Me: have u ever met someone and felt as if you've known them all ur life? that was how i felt tonite.
interacting with u for the first time time and feeling as if I've known u all my life. u have a beautiful energy about u. keep it up! u rock! but u still owe me soooo many beers. .

Her: Energy? i felt like i had none! but i knew we were bound to meet up at some point, and I'm Super stoked that we did! your stories are amazing and I'm excited to hear more with the beers that i owe you .

a couple of days later i sent her a flirty text to find out what she's been up to, she replied almost immediately that she was having lunch at a sushi restaurant and invited me to come. since I'm not really into sushi, i told her that, but made a deal with her that I'll only come if she promises to go with me to a Chinese restaurant l8r. she agreed as long as it was another day. we met up, after a while we went to her place and really talked for a while. i did some very brief kinos and it went well (should i have made a move then and there? pointers needed!!). later when i wanted to leave she walked me to where I'll catch the bus. (it was some distance and the weather was almost freezing) she waited until i left. while talking and waiting i did a few more brief kinos (sparingly), then i decided to push a little and tried to subtly touch her cheeks close to her lips, and she kinda laughed uncomfortably and pulled back, asking me what i was doing. i recovered a bit and told her i was trying to gauge the wind direction just as she taught me. she then said ooh, and stuck out her finger (like she had done before) to gauge the wind direction. but i felt slightly uncomfortable after that although i pretended nothing happened. We continued talking until l i left. now this is my sticking point. i normally get them interested, only to fail miserably in my sexual escalation. i don't really want to mess this one up, (at least let it be a learning curve for me)but i think she's interested. how do i inject that sexual tension, cos most times they seem to lose interest an put me in that FZ. am i moving too fast, or too slow here? timing & sexual escalation seem to be major sticking points for me. any pointers will be "SERIOUSLY" Appreciated. keep up the good work guys!!

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Didnt kino soon enough, or not often enough.

I guess so. sometimes i think just trying not to make the kinos obvious ruins my game have to work on that!!

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I can see that you've gone from light kino that could be considered as friendly towards using kino implying that you want to kiss them. It looks like you wanted to kiss her, like you had an ulterior motive. That's natural and healthy, but it's better if you build it up steadily rather than leapt into it. That's probably why she pulled back.

I have a friend who also struggles with being friendzoned, I constantly tell him to make his intent clear to the way he communicates, ie: behaving like a potential lover would, not a friend. In relation to your kinos, this means you should indeed make them clear signals of your interest. Just don't escalate too hard when it's not appropriate

Think of it this way; she's clearly chasing you and investing a lot of time/energy into meeting you. All you have to do is shape the time and energy and oppurtunities to your own ends.

I saw that you qualified her a bit too much on her your first text. It's good that she's very into you, I wouldn't advise qualifying as strongly as you have too early.

I take it you're trying to find a girlfriend instead of casual sex/self development purposes? I know it's controversial, but you should try to get her into bed as soon as you can. You will build a shit ton more of a connection than you will with date after date x 17388378349996532 billion!

Could just try casually texting her until you get to a point where you set up a date, then qualify her more steadily up until you're being overtly sexual. That way she'll be sexually charged just in time for your date. Then it's up to you to lead it in that direction!

It's a bit of a shite reply, but there you go

Ninja

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Thanks Ninja, I think I'll have to move on from this. At least now, i believe i can learn from this experience. what kind of kinos should i be applying to indicate my interest and yet not jump forward too soon?

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Lol, kinos you shouldn't really be thinking 'what exact touches should i do?' in the moment. That would be mentally masturbating over something that isn't much of an issue.

I would say that your non-verbal communication should be congruent to your intent and your mood (apart from if you're feeling menstrual haha). So if you're out to flirt with women, using flirty kino. If you're on a date with a girl witht he intention to take her home, build up the tension and use sexual kino (this does not meaning fingering her, just things that are thought of as sexual, like casually placing your hands on her ass.)

It seems like you're new to the whole aspect of kino, so here's a few tips. When you introduce yourself to a girl (when you get to the name-exchanging of process); shake her hand and keep shaking it for as long as possible. It's called a 'magic handshake', it's pretty cool

I used to use secret handshakes and pet names to help me get to know the girl better. Girls usually enjoy the idea of a secret handshake lol.

On dates, like with this girl, when you first see the girl you can give her a hug; not a sloppy one mind, I mind like a brief, squeezy hug or a romantic one if you're at that stage with a girl. Then you just act like her boyfriend and escalate as you usually would (even if there are people around you, show that you're not phased by them!)

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Thanks buddy. have another sarge coming up. will post the report so that we can calibrate on it.
cheers!!

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