Hi everyone, new here.

Its currently week eight (I know...) in my college courses (third year student) and there is this cute girl that I'm interested in in my class. Not hook up only etc. but like actually hang out and so on..

So she was in my English class a year and a half ago but I'm not sure if she remembers me (we talked only the first day because the prof made us and my confidence was non existent). Now she's in my current sophomore english class and we just started talking consistently a week or so ago. I'm no good at talking to girls I'm attracted to (honestly I feel I can attract girls I'm not interested in great because I shut down when she's cute) so it's only been small talk about random stuff.

The thing is that I can't tell is if she likes me. She sits next to me. In the first couple weeks she kind of hovered around in my proximity. I sit in the back and sort of center to the teacher. Its only a 30 student class and people kind of pick a seat and dont move around much. Now she is sitting next to me and I don't know if it's partially because of me or because she has a fellow Russian girl/ friend I guess she made that sits in front of her.

I've watched a couple youtube vids about stuff to try to recognize signs but I'm shy and bad at it. We've joked about stuff almost every class. I've teased her about being a bad student. I dont notice any head tilt ?IOI's? and she hasn't hit me or touched my arm etc. She's initiated conversation after I sat down before class once or twice. It seems like I talk to her the most in that class but I can't figure it out.

Basically, where should I go from here to not get friend zoned? I wanted to get more confirmation that she's interested before I say hey lets hang out because I haven't really noticed anything saying she's interested but I have "bitch butterflies" all the time so..

Side note- I found her on twitter and her profile is blocked but she has a photo of her and a guy, then on a site called twtrland or somethin, it shows random posts, some talking about a bf, but they are 4 months old and it doesn't show anything recent. Soo...I dunno what the status is on that..

If she does have a bf, should I make this a learning experince and try something? (IF so, what?) I don't really want it to be awkward between us because she's the only person I really talk to anyways. Not interested in chatting with the others around me. I can be social but just don't really feel like being friends with those that are around me. And I know there are more girls in the world, I just wanted to try her because she's really cute and Russia!! (sexy )

I'll see her again friday (mon, wed, fri) so what shall I do?!

The biggest indicator and the most obvious one is eye contact and how long you hold, how often etc. try sitting somewhere different, I know you said ppl don't move around much, but this allows potential oppurtunities for you two to make eye contact through out class. If I make eye contact with a girl multiple times through out class you know she is attracted that is just human nature. This also might help you figure out if she was sitting there because of your or her friend.

Now you said you don't want to be friend zoned, but if you feel confident enough try to see about studying, but while studying you gotta somewhat be flirty or interesting or this can lead to being friend zoned. If need be, rip a few shots before if you are worried about not being sociable. Asking to study just helps you be around her in a more comfortable setting and will help you learn more about her like if she has a bf etc.

And finally the main thing to everything is just confidence, if you see her makin eye contact just go for it man. You will rarely ever get rejected, girls love confidence so much it just shows you are a man and guess what even if you do get rejected who gives a fuck now you know and you can move on.

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Fuck Her~!

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Yes! I definitely know eye contact is big but I can't tell (again) if she's held it for casual conversation or because she's somewhat interested. Im too nervous to see it or it hasn't happened. It'd be strange to move about the class because I've sat there from day one but I could try it!

Once I get past the initial stuff, I think I'm cool and fun to b.s. with. I've been working on confidence too, definitely, but still have a ways to go.

On Friday, we are going to the computer lab so I figured I could pass notes just to try something fun if we end up close by. Every time we've been in there she's sat facing the outside windows so it'd be hard to try and get eye contact. Hard to get eye contact with big screens in your face too Seating in the lab is sort of random and generally the people that get there earlier sit in regular-ish spots after it sort of fills, the rest take whats left.

ya the computer lab will give ya quite the predicament, but I would say as far as eye contact if she smiles or immdiately looks away, you are golden. If she gives ya a little smile then she is outgoing and if she looks away she is just as nervous as you are. Also if it is frequent you are golden.

I was also thinkin, if you guys ever have down time to just chit chat esp friday, ask her, her weekend plans. If she has a bf, she will most likely let ya know right then.

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If you're comfortable enough with her I suggest you walk her to her next class or whatever. Lie haha!

Be like "oh I gotta go this way too". Makes for a bit of talking and more ;D.

I've done this, always works. Be calm and casual. Only thing bad is you have to walk extra if you really are going the opposite way haha.

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Awesome guys. Thanks a ton for the suggestions and help! We'll see how it goes tomorrow.

Aight sooo I bitched out... I talked to her in the lab throughout class and we were allowed to leave early if we wanted to. People left randomly and I was trying to judge when she'd leave without bein creepy. Buuuut then I just packed up (seein if she would to, or start to so I could wait) and headed out with a have a nice weekend. She looked like she was close to leaving but ah well.

Eye contact seemed just over friendly but not completely flirty. Seems more friendly but I'll try suggestions Monday.

Still happy cuz I NEVER would have talked to a girl like her a year n a half ago. So confidence is feeling better.

k dude try this one, its basic but cute. I credit ross jeferies for this one

have a pen and paper on hand.
Tell her "_____ I dont think I have ever told you that I was an artist ! Ibet I can draw an amazing portrait of you."

she will obviously let you go for it.

Pretend that you are actually drawing a portrait of her and actually giving a real effort. Instead draw a stick figure and sign the bottom as:
Semi Cute Girl From School (and your name)

then give it to her and tell her to keep it somewhere visible so she will remember you when she sees it. This will initiate flirting and I bet no guy has ever done this to her before

good luck mate

Will try it! And how do you justify her being semi cute? I know you don't wanna put her on a pedistil so how should one reply if she questions it in a fun manner?

I thought about it and I could probably say something bad about how she's dressed (in a joking way obviously) but that's all I could really come up with.

And for Monday, I didn't improve much. Mostly because I was drop dead tired and still nervous. Wednesday will be better.

DUDE WHO CARES !!!
show her you have balls bro. if she says semi cute?
you say "yah your cute but your not that great."
(make sure you say it with a smile, strong body language, and make sure she knows your joking)
take a risk. thats my game, and if you fuck up just make sure you find out where you go wrong.

let me know

So I'm really havin a hard time gettin shit done... I just can't seem to get out what I want! I've been trying to pay attention to body lanuage more though. It's weird cuz she doesn't ask questions about me much (one example- asked her what she does for Halloween, she replied n didn't ask anything), she hasn't make physical contact if I mess with her and I never see her looking at me. She holds good eye contact when I talk to her though!!

I dunno maybe not, but it's probably been too long for me to save this but I appreciate the advice and will use it for the future. I just lock up and look a little nervous.

On a side note, I have to teach myself to hold eye contact with attractive girls that I catch looking at me (which I've noticed more by working on eye contact at school!) I just have this subconscious trigger to look away if they are cute, I can hold eye contact with those I'm not interested in lol. I've definitely missed out cuz of it. Thought I'd share everything for those like me who are looking for advice on stuff. Thanks all!!

yeah your losing her. pretty much lost her. Your bitching out has put you in a non threatening friend zone. Your not even in the friend zone. Your just that guy at class. What did you learn? If your ready to maybe catch her you need to do this. And thing is you won't. not till you lose a few more and realize that your an AFC. Next time your with her doesn't matter if its not the perfect setting cuz it will never be you say to her with full on eye contact and no smile or joking condentations. "Do you want to kiss me?" That's it. If she says yes or any thing but a no then you kiss her. If she says no you can still save some grace by saying. "that's ok I did not say you could." And for god sake make it a real kiss. take your hand and pull her in by the back of her neck and take your prize. no peck on the cheek no little kiss. No full on blow her out of the water deep passion.

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Why guys and girls don't mesh.

"Chicks are crazy and guys are dumb." Chinopants.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=en ... a_Nno&NR=1

I'm not even close to having enough confidence to straight out ask a girl that. I'm not worried cuz there a ton of other girls and I'm just starting out..but will keep in mind for when I'm better.

Learned quite a bit though so thanks everyone.

Just as an experiment I did the ingore thing because we had to meet in the computer lab again. I was curious to see what she'd do. So I was the last person to come in, sat down and signed on. "Class" started and the teacher was handing back essays. Maybe 10 minutes or so had passed and I got my paper back. Kept a friendly (non pissed) expression while looking at random shit.

Before she talked to me, she looked at me a couple times from the beginning of class. After a couple minutes with my paper she asked what I got and we started talking. So I don't know if this says anything! Maybe not but I was curious.

She got a good grade so I started teasing her about how much she paid the teacher. She went along and wouldn't say so I tried to create the "us" mentality (cuz I remember reading about it) by saying it could be our secret and she can tell her friends sitting next to her. She went along still and said she wouldn't tell me so I replied with something like "oh I see how you are/how it is between us". Something to that extent.

As I'm writing this on my phone, just got approached by a girl. Not really interested but crazy! We were taking about stuff and she light punched my knee within a couple mins of sitting down.