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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:10 am 
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Ok this is the problem

I really dont find it hard to open someone. Its easy as fuck, dotn feel AA or fear of rejection at all.

Also I dont find it hard to keep a conversation going.

I build a lot of social proof by constantly talking with someone. Either it is an Alpha male I use to boost my status or it is a chick I try to game.

What I do find hard are the girlfriends of my target staying close all the time.
It really pisses me off. Since I go solosarging a lot I just cant isolate my targets, which means that I also cant escalate any further through Kino, CF and Sock and Awe or any other technique.
I just dont feel confortable doing all of that when her friends just keep standing next to her.

So my request is the following.

Please tell me how to isolate a babe when im solo sarging and she is with 1 or more friends. A couple of good tricks would really improve my game.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:24 pm 
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I go out with friends but go off by myself to game girls, but when you are gaming one girl why don't you get one of your new found friends you were building social proof with to come talk to them with you?

I'm sure this issue is addressed in mystery method or the game... i think they say to tell her friends: "hey i need to borrow her for a minuet, i'll bring her back i promise"


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:56 pm 
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* Go to the bar with her
* It is hot on this dancefloor 'm going outside for a bit, join me?
* Want to go have a smoke
* Lovely place this but I like this other pub/bar/party better, off to that place, join me?
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Get used to hitting on woman with your friends around, might be harder but it is easier if you got a few wings around.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:25 pm 
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* Go to the bar with her
* It is hot on this dancefloor 'm going outside for a bit, join me?
* Want to go have a smoke
* Lovely place this but I like this other pub/bar/party better, off to that place, join me?
....

Get used to hitting on woman with your friends around, might be harder but it is easier if you got a few wings around.
Problem is that most of my friends often dont feel like going out. And I try to make it a habit to go sarging 2 a 3 times a week. So I will need to solo sarge alot.

That is also the reason why I want to have some pointers about how to isolate a girl from a set when I am alone.
For instance the first sentence you gave about going out for a bit. If I have aproached a 2set, the girl will not come outside with me, because that would mean that she would leave her friend alone there. And if I keep taking her friend with me sexually excalating through Kino and stuff becomes a lot harder.


It also has happened more than once, that when I tried to difuse the obstacles by introducing my friends to my targets group, my friends blew my chances by saying stupid stuff.

Yes I know, I need new friends, just dont feel like having other AFC guys sarging with me who keep destroying my game.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:39 pm 
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'What? I can't hear you. Let's stand over here"
[of course you lead]

You could just move 3ft away, that is more than enough for isolating :)


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:39 am 
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Just noticed you live in Holland, sarging is quite easy there imo. Quite a relaxed SPAM over there...

You don't even have to isolate girls tbh, you can find a group which is intresting enough to party with. Just introduce yourself in a proper way and normally they won't mind you being around. Being around "that inner circle" might not get you to score that night (within hours) but it will introduce you to new (party-)people. If your regular friends indeed can't sarge at all you have to do something about it.
Try to get to know a few bar-people of clubs you go to regulary.
Talking to girls who wait for their girls/causing them not to wait for their drinks (ask it from your mate) ect can raise your value alot/makes them feel 'special'.

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More questions? :)


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:26 am 
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I go out with friends but go off by myself to game girls, but when you are gaming one girl why don't you get one of your new found friends you were building social proof with to come talk to them with you?

I'm sure this issue is addressed in mystery method or the game... i think they say to tell her friends: "hey i need to borrow her for a minuet, i'll bring her back i promise"
I like the idea of getting one of your new found friends to come talk to your obstacles. You could even use your target and obstacle to open another set/mixed set.

Also, after you build attraction with your target, build rapport with your obstacle and lead them both somewhere else where you can diffuse the obstacle (possibly with another obstacle) and finally isolate your target, even if it is just a number-close.

Usually, they'd go home together, so if your target is the one driving you could tell her to text you when she drops off her friend and meet up with her after.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:04 pm 
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Thanks for the help guys. I wont say that after this post and your answers my problem will be solved, but now I can work on it.

This is what I am going to do, if you guys have something to add or to corretc please tell me.

1) Read the Mystery Method

2) build more rapport with the obstacle

3) Make use of the guys I was building social proof with. Dont just use them for social proof, but also introduce them to the sets of women etc. Probably will even build more social proof for me. Of course I will have to make sure they dont destroy my game, so after introducing them I will have to try isolating my target and leaving the introduced guy with the obstacle.

4) If I see that I wont be able to score one of the girls that night, dont just leave, but try to make them part of my inner circle, maybe a day 2 will still be possible with my target and if its not I have a new group to hang out with the next time I go out.

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