How Do I Disarm Someone Getting Physical?



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:05 pm 
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Hi guys,

I have another question in dealing with AMOGs, and this comes from two experiences I just had.

I was at a club. The music wasn't so loud since I was close to the balcony and it was in an open-air section of the place. Anyway, the place was crowded as hell, and I was having trouble moving around the place while everyone around me dances on the spot.


1st Incident

So I pass this guy who's dancing with this girl, and at this point I haven't noticed her and I haven't had a good look at the guy, with the only noticeable thing being that he was taller than me.

So as I'm still trying to squeeze my way around when I feel his hand against my shoulder pushing me to the side a little. I turn to face him just to see what's up. He's putting his hands to the girl's sides, creating space for her, and gives me a light push again. Just to keep me away from his girl, whom I've just noticed.


2nd Incident

Stood at the bar beside a 2-set, talking to them. Another 2-set stands beside me, talking between themselves. I look over my shoulder at them just as this guy puts his arm around the one closest to me, blocking me out, and gives me this look while holding his finger out at me. Strange thing, because I was just talking to another set at the time.


Both incidents involved women I hadn't even noticed. What should I have done then in that case? Also, if they had done that to me while I have opened that set, how do I disarm them when they get physical right from the start?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:04 pm 
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It is only a big deal if you make it into one or let someone make it into one.

You seem to be someone who is maybe a little less confident in your ability to handle a physical altercation and may be concerned that you look weak when dealing with other men.

Because of this, you are probably making unimportant situations into major scenes, at least for you.

First of all, may I suggest that you start doing "something physical?" Like martial arts and / or muscle-building exercises?

I personally don't lift weights anymore, rather I just do plyometrics and bodyweight exercises and pay attention to my diet, but that is more than enough to give me enough muscle and reduce my bodyfat enough that men and women know that I can take care of myself.

You don't need to be a meathead, just fit.

I also don't do martial arts anymore, but I work as a bouncer once in a while, so I am familiar with violence and have some good street fighting skills, aka dirty tricks that I am confident in being able to use.

Frankly, when I bump into someone or even when he bumps into me, I just turn, put my hand up or even pat him on the shoulder or arm and say "excuse me" or "sorry."

That doesn't mean that I'm afraid or running away, just that it isn't enough of a big deal to me to even address the situation, because I've got a full life to get on with that doesn't involve kindergargten-like shoving matches over nothing.

If I am talking with a couple of girls and another guy grabs a girl with whom I am not even talking and shields her from me, I would just half-smile at my two girls and say "wow" or "whatever" and continue with the conversation as if I hadn't even stopped.

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Thanks for that.

I began training in wrestling and Muay Thai around two years ago, so actually getting into a scrap isn't my concern, though I haven't had practice for a few months.

My concern is more with stopping something small from escalating further, and not letting my walking away encourage more aggression. I have trouble remembering that sometimes things like this happen, and that they are beyond my control. I'll just have to deal with them accordingly as they come.

What I did on that night was to turn and keep going where I was going, and acting like nothing happened, all the while trying to stop myself from pushing him back and escalating things further.

My physical appearance may have sparked it as well; my shoulders and lats and biceps show (thanks to the pull-ups). I guess they feel like I am a threat to their women or something, but that isn't my fault. That's also a weird thought given the fact that I'm much smaller than them.


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Frankly, when I bump into someone or even when he bumps into me, I just turn, put my hand up or even pat him on the shoulder or arm and say "excuse me" or "sorry."

That doesn't mean that I'm afraid or running away, just that it isn't enough of a big deal to me to even address the situation, because I've got a full life to get on with that doesn't involve kindergargten-like shoving matches over nothing.

If I am talking with a couple of girls and another guy grabs a girl with whom I am not even talking and shields her from me, I would just half-smile at my two girls and say "wow" or "whatever" and continue with the conversation as if I hadn't even stopped.
Fantastic advice

These guys are pushing you out of the way because they're insecure. They're trying to act like "protectors" and be more alpha to the woman in question.. Acting nonchalant and acknowledging them in this way takes the wind out of their sails and shows that you're secure and not up to anything. The girl will pick up on this too and it may lead to something when she stops dancing with the meathead ;)


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