I'll make this one quick.

Last week, HB9 comes running to the elevator as it closes and we are the only ones on it at the end of the work day. We start out with some general chit chat and I ask her why she stopped coming to certain meetings she used to in our department, etc etc...

She starts immediately shit-talking the company, which makes me laugh because we are in 100% agreement so we are talking about those things on the way to the parking lot... I feel like she is giving me IOI since she is more or less a stranger (I've never really talked to her before) and she is totally opening up to me with shit you wouldn't really say to someone at work you don't know (because what you say to the wrong person may end up costing you your job if you aren't careful).

We get to the point where we need to part ways and I am moving with my body language towards my truck, and she keeps the conversation moving and keeps me there standing with her talking for another minute or two.

I took it as an IOI but was too chicken shit to pull the trigger and ask her out, this was unexpected and I didn't know if I should ask her out for drinks right there, lunch tomorrow and my best friend's advice "Don't dip in the company pool" certainly popped into my head.

But I've always thought this girl was the 2nd hottest girl at work and the #1 slot is happily married with kids, so she is the #1 AVAILABLE girl hahaha.

I decide that if I run into her in the hall and we are alone I am going to definitely ask her to go out for drinks or lunch or something of the sort.

Fast forward a few days...

Today — I am coming back from lunch. I see her from a distance, and we lock eyes and she immediately gets this big grin on her face and she even waved to me from across the way.

I think my intuition is telling me there is definitely something there, and that seems to be a little more friendly than your average "hey" as you cross paths with someone in the office.

My options are either WAIT until another opportunity to cross paths with her and flat out ask her out because the opportunity may never come again (and I should have had the balls to do it the first time)…

OR

I thought about just sending her an email saying "XXXXX has their milkshake happy hour today, and we all usually go, but nobody wants to go today so would you join me? blah blah blah… If so, meet me down in front of the building at X:XX o clock!"



Now, with that said — would it be WAY too creepy to just email this girl out of the blue and ask her to go out for a treat this afternoon (or tomorrow, or whatever)?

Pros: Could get this moving today, as in RIGHT NOW
Cons: Could blow myself out and become "the creepy stalker guy at work"

Or would it be better to wait until the off-chance I DO run into her in a situation where everyone we work with aren't around so I can pull the trigger without everyone else at work being up in our business?

Pros: Takes more balls to directly ask a girl out face to face
Cons: Could take weeks before the proper situation presents itself

Obviously if she DOES like me then she would probably be HAPPY to get an email like that.

This would not even be a dilema if not for the fact we do work at the same company and I am very hesitant to dip in the company pool.

The last time I did THAT shit I worked at Burger King in HIGH SCHOOL! And yeah, that shit became awkward even in that grease pit!

The email would be something like...

Hey,

(Something quick about seeing her today...) Since I know you love your job as much as I do (we both hate it), we usually go to the ______ for _______ happy hour wednesday afternoons, but it doesn't look like anyone is going today.

Would you care to join me for some adventure and make your afternoon go by quicker?

If so, make up a good reason to leave and meet me outside at ____ at X:XX!



That would be what I would send, but I wanted to get some opinions (both PUAs and friends of mine) before I do. I usually don't give a fuck about rejection whatsoever (should have seen the line I busted out on a girl last night to prove it) — but since this is at work and I would see her in passing should she get creeped out and reject the offer I want to be careful with my approach.

-peace-

Well I just went and answered my own question right there!

I put together a nice brief email, basically telling her to meet at a certain time if she wanted to get out of the office for a bit.

I got an email back in a few minutes saying essentially "thanks for the invite but unfortunately I can't! I am getting married next year and need to go look at a venue tonight!"

CHICK CHICK BOOOOOOM!!!!!! (as the shotgun effect goes off in the background).

Now, I absolutely made sure she wasn't wearing a ring, so I was not expecting THAT shit to come back.

So in this case, it was CERTAINLY better via email than face to face LMFAO…

I shoulda listened to my friend about dipping in the company pool hahaha, but the reality is that the Alpha male doesn't give a fuck what she thinks and it was better to have done that than to wonder what would have happened if I did.

Time to move on to the next target. I am not even gonna fuck with a married or semi married girl. I don't play that shit.

Dude, I gotta say that there's a possibility she is actually single. You said you made sure she didn't have a ring? Engaged girls show that shit off, not to other guys but to other girls, so my thought is that if she was actually engaged she'd be wearing her diamond engagement ring. It's like flowers at Valentines Day, women don't give a shit about flowers, but they do give a shit that they're seen getting flowers.

(don't take this the wrong way but) Your email makes you look like a bitch. You also may not have escalated to asking her out in small enough increments. She needs to trust you, she's not going to trust some dude in her office that she talked to for 5 minutes who then desperately fires her an email asking her out. Her dropping the engagement bomb is her way of giving you a permanent "no".

Maybe take it as a sign and a learning experience, I've been told not to dip my pen in the company ink as well, though I never have so I'm not sure how bad a mistake it would actually be.

The alpha male doesn't give a fuck about what that girl thinks, so neither do I LMFAO...

Just a learning experience. I honestly don't even feel awkward if I run into her in the hall. There is a very small part of my brain that seems to recall her mentioning her fiance or some shit in a meeting we were both in together. I only recall this AFTER finding out directly from her.

I agree with the wedding ring thing, but there are SOME girls out there who actually do think the whole diamond ring thing is a bunch of stupid bullshit so girls can judge each other's men and don't want them. My ex was one of those and I know more than a few others.

There ARE a FEW girls out there who do not buy into all the marketing and television bullshit. There is a very specific reason why television is called "programming," and if you don't get the joke, then you are certainly being programmed by it.