Goal:

I want f-close on first dates, and at least a number from all chicks that give me IOI's. Have the feeling I scare some girls away, even if they show interest. Over-confidence?

Background:

Ok, I was always "natural". Pretty good success. Since PUA stuff, game increased. Now I can chat up any girl. I did not have any sort of structured game, now pretty lost during mid-game. right moment to go for kiss? f-close same night? Lost there. was eager to try this, working great so all the more. Always during mid-game.

Even have difficulty getting numbers and that was never the case when I just winged it. But I was approaching less girls then. But really, I get positive response from 95%. Then, finished.

Example:

Last time in a club we chatted up some random girls. The one I was working had a boyfriend (not there) and was HB7-7.5. Whatever, she was hot. Opened and teased, she was reacting well, read her palm and all that shit. She was into me. Then kino. She was rubbing her ass up against me, feeling for my cock and was comfortable with my arm touching her waist and back and I felt she was getting aroused. I felt like she was ready to go home with me that night. At least, I am 100% sure she was considering it. Game half-won?

Then, the wierdest thing. Really the first time it happened. No kiss, no nothing. She removed my arm and said that there "were tons of single girls in the club blah blah". I asked what made her think I was even interested but that didnt save it. I did buy her one drink though, but I doubt that was the reason. Still can't pinpoint what it was. Did I miss my chance to kiss her and let it go cold, or what? There was a moment of nothing, with us just there chilling. then it went cold.

Any thoughts. I don't care about her, will never see her again. For the next ones, I mean...

no point in dwelling on the past,

in my opinion, your biggest obsticle to closing is the logistics, there is plenty of screening before hand you can get into to see how into you a girl is, mainly qualification, all the way down from really shallow simple qualification that somone you don't know would be ok investing in, all the way up until heavy sexual qualification that gets into really intimate possibly embarassing detail (obviously depends on the persons level of comfort)

qualification can be really useful for you to figure out where you are, when in doubt just ask, if you want to see if she has interest in talking to you, ask her really shallow qualifiers, bait her with questions like, so do you like this bar?

then ground your qualifier with some sort of talk about the bar or relate it to yourself, continue on, get into deeper levels of rapport and ask her more broad qualifiers that force her to invest more into the interaction for example, ''so you seem really cool, tell me some of the more interesting things you have seen around this city''
(then if she takes the bait start qualifying her on how interesting/cool she is for having those experiences, then if you can, relate the good experiences to yourself again)

it goes all the way up to sexual qualification
example, ''what place do you enjoy being kissed the most?''
same as any other qualification just see if she takes the bait, reward/punish based on answer

the more the girl invests the more you know she is into investing for you, the more investment, the more connection

you sort of can just feel her out with it and her body language, there is no point of certainty you will ever reach besides her outright verbalizing she wants to go home with you

besides qualification, you can just compliance test with kino, how open to physical escalation is she?, where is her threashold?, will she isolate and move with you, when ever you request compliance?

just keep everything that is happening somewhat noted in your head, the more compliance you have the more likely for you things will continue to remain compliant, but there is no sure fire way, logistics is one of the hardest things to handle, so if you can plan a date at your house, or around ending at your house or at some point going to your house, that is a good idea

good points, man. thanks. i realize now that i am not doing that enough. the linking and compliance is something i am working on at the moment. will update on progress. i just go up to the hottest girl i can find in any given place and if i see she digs me even the slightest bit, i go for it.