hey all,

the weather is better now in Montreal, hotter girls appear out of nowhere more and more as the days warm up. I'm looking for your ideas on something that happened last night.

Around 7, my bro and I went for a coffee at Starbucks. Cafes are my playground, I feel totally comfortable there. We come in, I notice a HB8 who's sitting with a friend, we hold eye contact for a few seconds before I drop my stuff and go order coffee. I sat away from her as there was no seat available next to her. I have a fun convo with my brother, we smile and have a good time. The girls is loud and looking for attention.

Later, we move next to her as a more comfy seat is free and I open the girls with some funny comment about what they were saying, before making a remark about the fact that they don't look like they're from here. It turns out that they're from Ottawa, 2 hrs away and just spending the day in the city. I can tell the HB is looking for some fun thing to happen, the convo is going well, I tease her and we're laughing. Around 8h30 my bro leaves to meet friends and I have things to study so I tell the girls we should meet for drinks after they've had dinner, which they joyfully agreed. We split off, I went back home and a couple of hours later we met close to Starbucks. I took them to a lounge bar that I like, we sat in a corner and a friend came to meet us, at that point we were 4.

I knew the girls were driving back to Ottawa on the same night so the logistics were not in our favor. My friend winged perfectly, took care of the friend and distracted her. However, we were sitting in the corner of the place which would have been perfect to escalate IF I had isolated the girl. But, we were still the 4 of us and I couldn't come up with a reason to move the girl at some other place in the bar (now I'm thinking of just going to the bar for a drink...duh) without it being awkward that we're splitting in 2 small groups.

I ended the night when I as tired and had to sleep as I was waking up early today. I set up a time bridge to hang out with the girl when she'll be back in Montreal or when I'll go to Ottawa. I could build comfort over txt or FB untill then. I had a tendency to let the girl quiet as I was scared to bore her with too much comfort over txt game...

I figure that from that point, escalading and kissing her would increase the temperature and allow me to isolate her to my car which was close to the bar. I didn't want to do that in front of her friend... The kino was limited to less erogenous parts of her body. And going back to my place was not an option last night cuz I live 20 minutes from the bar and the other girl would have waited for her friend all night long.

What do you guys think of this one? It's a common situation that I encounter, where I don't isolate the girl from the group because I feel it'll be weird/awkward to isolate her and the girl won't want to. What pretexts could I use to isolate her? How do you guys do this? Or should I just take her hand and move her to where I want to go for no reason?

Hey man,

Good game overall. But I know what you mean. I would have just led her and if she said where, kept leading her without being aggressive. In any case, if that didn't work I'd be like lets find somewhere quiet where just you and I can talk - its too loud here.

I mean if you all went out as a 4 and you got girl # 2 distracted, its all good. I mean you already took them on this mini-date thing. I think that's a seriously good indication.

Well, you didn't give much detail on her reactions while at the bar... If she's rubbing your thigh or caressing your shin with her feet, I would say she's thinking of a little time alone myself, lol. But if nothing like that came out, I'd say you did a GREAT job.
As for breaking off, I always find something interesting behind the bar to distract them with, it can be off the wall, wacky, or even lame but seem like you have a bit of interest in to pull her off. Also, talk to your buddy, if he's pulling the second girl off of her friend, you can have him do the same leaving you two at the table. So talk to him before you go to meet the ladies of the night. Set up signals, my favorite, I never scratch my head or face with my left hand, so we like to use that. But remember, it could take him up to ten minutes to help you and split off, so give it time and don't wait until the last minute to try this. Woman usualy like things that attract the eye, so if you decide to split before your friend does, tell him something only he would understand even if its off topic and about the past but don't drag it out such as "Remember when we hung out the other night, you had to leave so early man, sucked". If he's smart enough, he'll catch the hidden message there.

Good luck man, I wish the best for ya.

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Sorry, one last thing, about "Women like things that attract the eye" I didn't finish that. If its something such as an odd looking alcohol bottle, light design, or even something of that sort away from the table, play it off as you like it but can't find anyone else whos into that style like you, DONT drag it out either. Also, remember, never ever EVER worry about what your friend is doing with his date, pay attention to him and help when possible, but if you constantly watch or try to pay attention and watch out for him, it'll put off a weird vibe and end it for everyone.

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~TonyD.
CRo2
My Website:
www.ControllerRejects.webs.com

Thx for the tips. I'll keep in mind the "attract the eye" one. Keep in mind that it should be easy. The girl was teasing and hitting me, but not rubbing against me. Perhaps would've happened if we'd been alone, but we'll never know.

New week starting tomorrow night, new targets to pick-up.

when you have the intentions of bringing a girl to your house, open a thread that is based around logistics, figure out their logistics and present your logistics, figure out what works better, then try to qualify them onto something that makes it easier for you to move them, you just need some form of plausible deniability to give them an excuse even if sex is implied obviously with the request

for example you are talking, you just say something like,

you:I live pretty close to here, living close to starbucks is pretty sweet, are you girls from here?

girls:blah blah blah ottawa

you:oh cool, do they blah blah blah (bait them into some form of interest in some sort of activity they could do at your house that you can qualify them to), in ottawa

girls: either they take the bait or don't, you can continue or start to sell the fuck out of your point of qualification, if they don't take bait then just keep building rapport and fishing for some sort of point to qualify them to


it would be like

oh cool, do they like to play drinking games in ottawa?

if the girls take the bait, they start talking about drinking games, then just seed into the conversation that you have drinks at your house, see how they respond to that, keep talking about drinking games, play up how amazing and fun drinking games are, eventually just throw an invite to play drinking games at your place out, don't make it seem like it is of importance if they say yes or no, reguardless of the answer carry on with the conversation

you can continue doing this when you are pressed for time, and invite girls home over and over for fun, using a different qualifier every time to the point where it becomes obvious you are trying to get them home and somewhat funny (depending on the girls sense of humour and if she is digging it, or getting irritated, use your own judgement), if you are seeing some problems, try proactively handle them before they become bigger (asd most importantly), something as simple as keeping it discreet or the idea that no one will know about it, or letting her know that you like that she isn't judgemental can go a long way (if you want to take it further with the non judgemental thing, you can spark up the whole player vs slut double standard and how it is unfair blah blah blah, women are treated poorly for this when people should be able to do what they want, you like a confident women blah blah blah, and qualification continues in an attempt to lower asd further)

definitely keeping that in mind. bait bait bait.